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Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Why is Churchill considered such an inept commander? Sorry if its been covered by the thread.

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Animal
Apr 8, 2003

So I finished reading The Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson, which puts me in a new class of geek. Anyways I want one of you milhis nerds to give me a concise summary on how Cromwell managed to build up an army that whooped rear end, and why this protestant culture was so much better at waging war than their royalist opposition.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

HEY GAL posted:

Not judging, everyone loves a good froth. And I didn't fly into a nerd rage when Animal implied that the New Model Army won because they were Protestants, I did some revisions and went to bed like a normal person. :colbert:

Poor choice of words. I meant Puritan (which may not make the implication any better.) the idea being that their religious zeal could have helped their focus. I recently read 'The Crusades through Arab Eyes' which is obviously a very different conflict, but one in which religious puritanism is a sort of tool gave focus to another group of people (the disparate Muslim coalition) and is one of the things that seemed to have helped turn a group of rabble into an organized coherent army that could repel a less united enemy.

I am a completely unreligious person so I hope you dont think that I am leading somewhere I am not.

Animal fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Apr 17, 2014

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

SeanBeansShako posted:

And it made Bismark even smugger than he usually was too. Seriously, poor Napoleon III. The last thing he needed at Sedan was one of the smuggest 'I told you so son' speeches in military history.

Anywhere I can read what Bismarck told Nap3?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003


*standing ovation*

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Smoking Crow posted:

Commentary on the Gallic Wars by Julius Caesar.

This. I was impressed by how clear and concise it is, considering it was written so long ago. Also, the numbers that Caesar was able to muster were mind-boggling, unless something is lost in translation or he was exaggerating.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

There's some unintentionally funny stuff in it, too. Like, at one point he's talking about the fierce and annoying Germans crossing the Rhine and being a pest. Then a few pages later they are totally cool bros and are part of his cavalry. How did it get to that? I guess he bought them off or something.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Here please!!!

*goes back to lurking*

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Phanatic posted:

I don't get this. The 1903 Springfield is a bolt-action rifle, it's single-shot in the first place. "Feeding normally" is you fire one shot and need to work the bolt if you want to fire again.

There are rounds in a magazine inside the rifle. What he means is the magazine is removed so you have to manually put a round in the chamber every time you will fire.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

I guess those were made in case you were having your meal and some bounty hunter came for trouble you could Han Solo them

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Were there rudimentary versions of the stirrup in antiquity, or is it an invention that truly slipped the cracks until way later?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Hegel do you have any videos of your pike reenactments, more specifically the training? I am looking on YouTube but there is not a lot to see (just a lot of fat dudes reenacting english pike pushing against each other in a circle)

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

What does being put in chains entail? You are literally fettered to chains and left in a dungeon, or a public place?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

I wonder what the NAZI's would have thought of the patron saint of German infantry being a black dude in bling armor.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Bacarruda posted:

Tang was lost to a circular-running Mark 18 electric torpedo, not a Mark 14.


How do they know thats what happened to it, or whatever happened to any sub lost in an accident? Diving technology was not as good back then, was it from logs from radio chatter?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Bacarruda posted:

Carl von Rosen, Eric's son, was one hell of a dude.

We held a The Most Interesting Man in the World contest, Carl von Rosen would have won it, easy.

Some highlights of his life:
-Hermann loving Goering was his uncle
-flew in a flying circus
-survived being mustard-gassed by Italians in Ethiopi
-bombed Russians in a DC-2
-smuggled secret documents out of the Netherlands during the Nazi invasion
-assigned to be UN General Secretary Dag Hammarskjöld's pilot in the Congo. At the last moment, von Rosen got sick and had to be replaced by another pilot. Hammarskjöld's plane crashed, killing everyone on aboard
-flew sea-skimming mission in a DC-7 flying food aid into Biafra
-converted sport planes into attack aircraft, formed a mercenary squadron called the "Biafra Babies" and then blew up half the Nigerian air force on the ground






This guy is the greatest man to ever live

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Verr posted:

If he could beat the debt collectors to the courtroom doors, that is. Which I think is a good question: I know that the current American military prohibits getting higher clearances based on debt, but was there any similar sort of debt-related hassles for officers of older armies? I can't imagine that very many people would want to mess with a Roman officer/SS commander/one of Hegel's dudes while surrounded by their troops.

\/\/ - Haha, the regular troops codifying IOU's is great.

Marc Anthony was in obscene amounts of debt at various points of his life since he was a young adult. He made it pretty far.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Ensign Expendable posted:

That's not entirely correct, it was more like "you're going to develop weapons faster if we give you this nice space to concentrate in! But oops, is also prison". The prisons weren't a part of the GULAG system, IIRC.

Somehow that reminds me of this:

quote:

You have let down our country and our Red Army. You have the nerve not to manufacture IL-2s until now. Our Red Army now needs IL-2 aircraft like the air it breathes, like the bread it eats. Shenkman produces one IL-2 a day and Tretyakov builds one or two MiG-3s daily. It is a mockery of our country and the Red Army. I ask you not to try the government's patience, and demand that you manufacture more ILs. This is my final warning.
— Stalin

I can imagine how much trembling and sweating occurred as that letter was read.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

bewbies posted:

It changed the NATO concept for defending western Europe from being basically a static defense-in-depth suppored by tactical fires to being one that relied heavily on counterattacking with armor supported by fires in deep areas. It was largely in response to changes in weapon capability like ATGMs and PGMs that allowed smaller units to delay/disrupt mass armored assaults while mobile protected forces massed for the counter.

When you say fires... do you mean the very very hot fires like tiny little stars? :(

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Merry Christmas to my favorite thread in SA. I rarely contribute, but I read it every day.

Looking forward to the next 100 years ago Christmas Truce Edition, and every time Hegel posts about 30yw bros its like waking up and running for the gifts.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

HEY GAL posted:

Thanks very much!

Here's something; "What do I care about your dog?" and punches the child square in the face.

:stare:
Thank for that.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Benny the Snake posted:

It was before the world conflict. Russia, Japan, and Germany had a gentlemen's agreement that none would interfere in the other's conquests.



Dr. Seuss was an awesome political cartoonist :allears:

It confuses Togo with Tojo, but who cares!?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

JcDent posted:

In a semi related question, why didn't the Nazis build a heavy bomber?

The short answer is: Hitler being Hitler. In his obsession with blitzkrieg he refused proposals for heavy strategic bombers in favor of tactical dive bombers. It worked well for him initially and he refused to change his mind like with many other things. His stupid obsession with dive bombers extended to other mistakes, like pushing for the Arado 234 a jet dive bomber project, which meant that precious many jet engines didn't end up where they should have: on Me-262 fuselages. To top it off, he insisted that the Me-262 itself should also be a dive bomber on the offensive, much to the irritation of competent officers like Adolf Galland who understood very well how this weapon should be used: to shoot down the enemy heavy bombers because heavy bombers are devastating and Hitler was a loving moron.

Animal fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Jan 2, 2015

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

gradenko_2000 posted:

How important was it for the Allies to have airfields on French soil in 1944? Granted, flying from France instead of having to cross the Channel from Southern England meant longer loiter/patrol times and probably less pilot fatigue and faster sortie turnaround, but was there a specific plane/mission that needed the extra distance?

For one it allowed them to carry less fuel and thus more ordnance, so it was a force multiplier.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

HEY GAL posted:

The Habsburg Girls

Please turn this into a series of posts for other noble women and men!!!

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

That guy looks awesome. Like Kefka from Final Fantasy 6

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

MrYenko posted:

I find that, by most modern U.S./Western standards, most flavors of new world Hispanics are hilariously racist about blacks, Mexicans, indigenous South Americans, and sometimes all three, just for variety. [Anecdotal]

He was quite racist at first, as were many Argentinians of the time. But he must have had a change of heart. During the Cuban revolution he took a black pupil and fought amongst blacks, later he married an indigenous woman, made changes in Cuban society for integration, had a black bodyguard, and later led a black guerrilla in Africa.

Its common for bigots to have a change of heart once they travel the world.

As for racism in Latin America, I grew in the region as an Afro-Hispanic, so I could speak at length about the subject, but this may not be the right thread. Lets just say that colonialism always leads to self hate and racism.

Animal fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 13, 2015

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Were these fights typically to the death?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

JcDent posted:


Also, Paras vs, Helos - helos are kind of succeptible to RPGs, 50cals and such and such. Plus, a big rear end helo convoy needs to cross a lot of space, full of enemy observers and such, and they have trouble with weather, altitude, etc.


Which is why the Marines pushed so hard for the V-22 Osprey. They can fly a longer distance, at altitude and relative high speed, then drop in and surprise the enemy.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Nenonen posted:

Why don't they just build an aircraft that combines the qualities of F-35 and Osprey?


You mean a VTOL jet dropship? It would be the most fuel inefficient thing ever created for no benefit. Turboprops are perfect for the task, the are jet engines with a shaft and a prop.

-edit- If you mean stealth, it would be very difficult to make a stealth dropship. Radar absorbent surfaces and a shape with a low radar signature can only go so far when the fuselage is ultimately a box to carry grunts.

Animal fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jan 24, 2015

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Pornographic Memory posted:

Maybe we could scale that back to a jet that can take off and land vertically, from the same ampihibious assault ships the Ospreys do.

You mean... the F-35 itself?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Hogge Wild posted:

The Hague Conventions wouldn't allow it. Even pilots are humans.

Thank you. Yes, we deserve basic human rights.

(Unlike Marines)

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

HEY GAL posted:

They're terrible places to have at your back because it'll gently caress up your retreat. Also bridging them or finding a ford is a lot of work.

I remember Caesar fought the (Germans?) with the river at his back so that his troops would not have anywhere to retreat.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

How was he ideologically? That will determine how sad (or happy) I will feel.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Ensign Expendable posted:

He was quite fond of Russians and their culture and actively dismissed the kill claims attributed to him and other German tank aces as propaganda.

RIP Otto Carious :(

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

HEY GAL posted:

No, the opposite

Do you speak from experience?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Arquinsiel posted:

The line between cause "plane" and effect "shot up" may be long and involve several steps of communication and an artillery barrage, but at the end of the day you just don't want that plane to figure out who you are.

Not by the time the Germans lost air superiority. After that, allied fighters would roam the skies at low altitude looking for targets of opportunity to engage freely; which would consist of trucks, trains, cattle, Rommel's staff car, tanks, allied troops, and whatever looked like it might create a wicked explosion. You don't want to look like any of these things when a P-47 is flying overhead.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Slavvy posted:

I'm honestly pretty surprised that war hasn't been reduced to a form of ritualised competition where victory/defeat terms are agreed to, and then the amount of time and money a given nation is willing to put into it's contest entry determines the winner. Like formula 1 but with killing.

The problem with this is, whats to stop a combatant from saying "Actually no, we will not comply with the terms. We will just keep fighting!"? Even when faced with nuclear annihilation a lot of governments will rather go down swinging rather than concede defeat under structured terms.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

the JJ posted:

What I mean, I don't think he's HFY because he's actually kinda sour on a lot of H. They can be quite good but also bad. The whole AI-FY is his way of going "nevermind the how, assume we start with a utopia. Okay, how do we gently caress with it." So it's not really AI-FY but AI's good enough to run a utopia (and, since we're dealing with essentially post-scarcity space opera, realistically handle the serious pew-pew aspects of the setting) are kind of part of the package. The OCP novel, Excession, is really quite good. Throwing the an aforementioned OCP at a post-scarcity space utopia and letting that play out. The AI's don't come out super well.

The thing with the Culture novels is that they all take place around the periphery pretty much by default being either citizens to problematic for the utopia to fit well or folks from outside the Culture being drawn into the orbit. Most of the novels deal with, in some way, the ethics of a utopia. Especially w/r/t intervention. This is repeated on micro and macro scales. F'r instance, Excession is on one level about how the AI's handle the OCP (and what the OCP does about them), on one level about the AI's dealing with a cartoonishly vile (but within their own context perfectly moral) tentacle aliens, and then on another level looking at how the utopia processes problematic people (what do you do with someone who want's an exclusive relationship but falls in love with someone more into the freewheeling polyamory more common in the Culture? What do you do with a guy who just... is kinda a self-centered narcissist who doesn't really fit with the Culture?) And it's all kinda muddy as to what the best way forward for any of these folks is, and who you really ought to be rooting for. (Probably not the tentacle dudes, even if, well, they're kinda being hosed over by everyone.)

IDK, it's kinda my sleeper favorite of the Culture novels, and OCP is one of those perfect terms that I never really knew I needed but just really works for some poo poo.

I am a fan of Iain M Banks (currently reading Excession) but can you please explain all these acronyms so we can participate? They are not obvious and Google turns nothing.

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Animal
Apr 8, 2003

chitoryu12 posted:

Also, the bullets were standardized to the desired oversize for the bore. Black powder is hideously dirty and rapidly clogs up the barrel with byproducts of the lovely combustion, but soldiers in battle don't exactly have time to swab it out every few shots. So rather than deal with their perfectly sized bullets not fitting down the barrel, they would manufacture a few hundredths of an inch oversized so they could be quickly shoved down a dirty barrel. The downside is that oversized bullets obviously make the gun quite inaccurate, hence the infamous "100 yards or less" accuracy of the typical 18th century musket.

You mean undersized?

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