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DBZA also got me back into DBZ, and it also helped me introduce someone else to the show and now they're a big fan. Right now I'm even working on a goofy, DBZA-inspired tabletop game. Dice rolling and screaming, basically. I'm hoping to have a playable version in the next month or so and see if the TFS guys want to give it a go. I'll also link it here, in case anyone wants to go full-on turbonerd. Like me.
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Xibanya posted:YES. And crosspost to trigames for good measure. You mean tradgames?
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May 21, 2015 11:02
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AlternateNu posted:Triadgames. If this is an actual thing I am completely unaware of what it is.
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May 21, 2015 14:07
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Captain Q posted:Funimation loving hired one of them to do VO work for Xenoverse. To be honest if I were a casting director at Funi I'd want all of their phone numbers in my rolodex And let the whole team rewrite the scripted dialogue on the fly during the recording session, no less.
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May 21, 2015 20:01
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From the perspective of making a DBZ tabletop game, which is a group activity, characters like Broly and Hildegarn are actually kind of useful. In order to make things fun for everyone, you can't really be relegating the majority of the players to standing on a cliff and going "UNREAL! IS THIS HIS TRUE POWER?" for an entire session. No matter how accurate it is. So huge berserker monsters with ridiculous power ratings that require the whole team to bring down? Rad. Also, teams of equally-powered villains (who may or may not have their own super sentai poses) who match the number of player characters 1:1? Similarly rad. Anything to stop people from getting bored, really. Mind you, I'm not into the "premade adventures for you to run" part just yet. Still working out the basic mechanics of throwing kamehamehas and dying repeatedly, and the whole "what you do when you're not punching punchmans" stuff, because the wacky soap opera side of DBZ is just as fun as the gratuitous fighting part and deserves equal recognition. If anyone is interested I could give some examples and/or a rundown of what the game is like so far and how it plays.
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May 25, 2015 22:53
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Stairmaster posted:A dragon ball z tabletop is fundamentally flawed because you either break from the source material or you have a party of people who all fight the same way. This isn't a particularly serious endeavour. The rules encourage you to yell at the table, to goof about, and have fun. Each character sheet has a space where you record how many times you've died. It is more to the spirit of being a punchmans fan, rather than the actual "canon" of any sort. Possibly best played with a lot of snacks and maybe a bit of alcohol. Exercu posted:Yeah but that's not a function of the enemies in DBZ, but a function of strength disparities among the main cast.Obviously pre-super saiyan Goku is still the strongest, and the man saving the day, but it's not comparable to the post-super-saiyan world where super saiyan forms are the new "you must be this tall to ride" The main cast have a strength disparity because they're the main cast of a shonen manga, where you need a protagonist who is the only one who can handle the big threats, because that's what a protagonist does. Krillin isn't on par with Goku because he doesn't need to be on par with Goku, from a narrative perspective. Games don't have that same sort of narrative going on, because it's a group activity. Caros posted:One more thing, you need to embrace the source material. Give characters extra traits for free like "S-such power" that allow them to give bonuses to a lead Fisher or otherwise assist in combat from the sidelines when there is a 1 V 1 The playbooks for the game are divided up into "species" - for a pretty loose value of species in some cases. But there's an Earthling playbook which is designed to let you play as a Krillin, Yamcha, or other sort of scrappy underdog character who doesn't get crazy alien powers like giant monkey mode or regeneration. Earthlings do best when lending support to others, or being supported by others. They also get experience for dying a lot, so you can embrace your inner Krillin and just constantly throw yourself into terrible situations and trust that there's like a billion sets of dragon balls to bring you back afterwards. Because there basically is. Their abilities include having senzu beans, and a move called "My Best Friend! NOOO!" where they provide a big power boost to another player's character if they die. They also gain experience if they actually land the killing blow on a major enemy, which is called "The High Point of My Career".
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May 26, 2015 00:52
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Blaze Dragon posted:For that, you could take inspiration from Dragon Ball Online, since there the Turtle and Crane Schools are two different classes and therefore work rather differenly from each other, and there's healing and magic classes and whatnot. There's no real "classes" to speak of. You pick a playbook that is your origin - Android, Saiyan, Earthling, etc. whatever - and then you consult the Big Bumper Book of Martial Arts (working title) and give yourself a certain number of moves from that list. So you can make yourself a Goku by being a Saiyan with the Kamehameha and the Kaio-ken and Spirit Bomb, but you could also be an Android with the same move set. Or give yourself Freeza's Death Bullet finger-beam, Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, and the Destructo Disk and really go nuts. The only thing you need to be aware of is what works best with your abilities. If you are a punch-focused punchmans, don't take only beams and blasts! Either way, ideally character creation takes somewhere in the region of 10-15 minutes tops. The game is called "Dragon Ball Parallels" and it is its own world. The idea is that everyone's character comes from some alternate timeline or paradox event that's been unceremoniously folded into a new universe in order to clean up the timestream. Unfortunately, a whole lot of villains have ended up in the same universe for the same reason, so you're left with a DBZ world where there's no Goku, just you. Unless you're literally playing Goku, I guess, which (as I said) is an option. This way you can have three "last surviving members of the Saiyan race" on the team, along with an Android-ified Doctor Gero from a universe where the Red Ribbon Army was a force for peace, a talking cat Earthling who throws Spirit Bombs at everything, and a Namekian called Big Green. Alternate timelines! It all works.
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May 26, 2015 01:55
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YggiDee posted:So it's basically Xenoverse? Basically, yes, although it's more just influenced by than a direct copy. Think of it a little like "Xenoverse Abridged". LORD OF BUTT posted:Why does it have to be Literally DBZ? Why not just something inspired by it? Because first off, there's absolutely no point in filing the serial numbers off something like DBZ. Half the fun of DBZ is the fact it is DBZ. It's not like I want to sell this or anything anyway, it's an affectionate fan-made little game for people to have fun with and enjoy with their friends. Making a generic version would end up being like one of those sad little d20 heartbreakers, which are somehow even more depressingly bland and unfun than the original D&D. I refuse to do it. Covok posted:So, is this a PbtA game because it sounds like it. Which is a fine system, but requires a lot of customization to the source material to make it work. It is, and it's fine because I'm really loving good at that sort of thing 
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May 26, 2015 10:00
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What don't you want the new show to have stellar animation like this?
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May 26, 2015 19:00
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mycot posted:Do we even know that? It's not like he fought in BoG. He lasted about five or six seconds before Beerus slammed him face-first into Buu's head.
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May 27, 2015 01:33
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Veotax posted:Is there a version of the trailer somewhere other than YouTube? I can't watch it in the UK. Sort of, yes.
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May 27, 2015 12:16
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Some Numbers posted:I'm going to be completely honest, who the gently caress is Tights? Bulma's older sister, she shows up in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman and not much else.
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May 27, 2015 17:16
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New Leaf posted:If they had coffee mugs with their "I am the hype" Vegeta on it, I'd own one in a heartbeat. I found this one online but I'm a little leery of it.. not sure how legit it is. http://www.redbubble.com/people/ichafazari/works/14570096-i-am-the-hype?p=mug&style=tall The person running that store joined the site in April this year, and has over 100 designs up already, some of them in very different styles. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm reasonably convinced they're not the original artist on any of them, and I'd advise against it.
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May 28, 2015 22:00
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May 30, 2015 22:32
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:If I'm looking forward to anything in Return of F it's seeing Frieza train. I hope that isn't off screen. It's gotta be the full Rocky montage, shot for shot, with "Eye of the Cha-La" playing.
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Jun 5, 2015 01:13
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Now I feel sort of bad for not only dumping on power levels in my game, but also adding in a "scenery destruction" mechanic which offers benefits (and some drawbacks, admittedly) to wrecking the terrain.
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Jun 9, 2015 13:35
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Namtab posted:This all sound very complicated Not really. It's basically like a little sliding scale that goes from "Pristine, Untouched Wasteland" to "Planet's Dyin', Cloud!" with about 4 steps in between. The various martial arts moves can, sometimes, increase the destruction level, especially if they're high-power ones. But you can also step in and stop the destruction from going any higher by taking the attack yourself. Sort of like when Trunks deflects Freeza's world-shattering bomb when the Android Saga starts. Here's an example of a couple of the martial arts moves: quote:Spirit Bomb [0 Power]: Raise your hands in the air and ask everyone to lend you their energy. Everyone else at the table can give you Power from their own pools, including the GM. You can spend Power on the following options: The Spirit Bomb is a no-power move that requires the rest of the table to give you Power (basically imagine every player having their own little pile of tokens or poker chips). During the course of the game you earn and spend Power to use moves. In this particular instance, everyone has to give you some, and then you spend it on making it actually effective, because using it as-is it will do nothing (just like the real Spirit Bomb). Every time you spend that Power to increase the effectiveness of the Spirit Bomb, you're going to get your poo poo kicked in by any enemy who can kick your poo poo, meaning the rest of the team has to give you time to charge your attack by keeping the enemy busy. Also, when it says "raise your hands in the air" that doesn't mean in-character, it means you have to do it at the table  That said, here's a different move. quote:Kamehameha [6 Power]: Roll +Energy. On a hit, it does one point of damage for every point of damage you have taken. On a 7-9, increase Destruction by 1. On a 10+, increase Destruction by 1 if it is at 3 or less. The Kamehameha requires at least 6 Power in the player's pool, making it on the expensive end of things, and you need to roll the dice and add your "Energy" stat (which is somewhere between -3 and +3). It deals damage based on how beat up you are, making it a very good finishing move. A partial success (a result between 7 and 9) will deal the regular amount of damage and wreck the place. A full success (10 or higher) will only do a little destruction. (Ideally you need to be saying "ka... me... ha... me..." when you're shaking the dice in your hand, and then "HA" when you actually roll.) Power levels are basically non-existent in the game, the progress is all done through contextual stuff, although I have yet to write up the exact mechanics for that. But there's still experience points and ways to "level up" your character, so don't worry about that.
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Twibbit posted:I wish to subscribe to your newsletter Well, you can take a look at the google doc I've been using. It's a bit piecemeal at the moment, it's missing a bunch of stuff (including the martial arts moves) and it's all subject to change. But that's game development for you.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:16
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Namtab posted:The spirit bomb also draws energy from nature so it doing 0 damage by default is wrong That's where the GM comes in. If everyone else at the table is super stingy, they can chip in some of their limitless Power. The "does nothing" thing is both for balance purposes, since it's a giant attack powered by the entire table, and also because it's a joke.
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poo poo, fusion, I knew there was something I forgot to put in.
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Covok posted:That's some cool points you make. I never really thought of it that way. The villain as the reflection of the hero is a time-honoured narrative device present in many works of fiction, once you know what to look for. It's one of my favourites.
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Jun 10, 2015 15:50
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Rudoku posted:Bulma's mom never ages. Don't go in the basement.
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Machai posted:So I'm rewatching DBZ and I have to ask, why are they so afraid of dying after the Frieza saga? They seem to think that it will be the end for good despite the way the Namekian dragonballs work. Am I forgetting some reason why they don't have access to them after the Namekians leave Earth? Couldn't they just send a space ship out or even ask King Kai to relay a message? Being the only line of defence between villains and total global devastation, it's unlikely that there will be any way for them to get wished back should they die. Especially Piccolo, who is the heavy hitter of the group with Goku and Vegeta gone, and the most likely to get taken out first. Admittedly, King Kai could always put a call through to Moori on New Namek to say "hi could you do a huge favour" but at that point there might be a lot of problems to fix. Not to mention that dying still hurts a lot, y'know.
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Jun 14, 2015 13:44
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He's the lager of the two Although I'm not sure every universe will have alternate versions of the main cast. The way it's set up sounds like each one is very different. I'd love to see a revised cosmology diagram from Toriyama, too, especially since the whole "universes" thing is a part of my game's backstory.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:07
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Pureauthor posted:It's fat Beerus. If his name is Champ then I'm betting it comes from Champagne. He's obviously the more cultured and refined one of the two. I want his dub voice to basically be someone doing their most over-the-top Thurston Howell impression.
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Jun 18, 2015 16:33
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Zonekeeper posted:Forget the plow, he did that poo poo by hand as a kid! And now he's literally a billion times stronger. This is the only way to make sure he doesn't accidentally crack the planet in half when he spaces out. Because he's gonna space out, he's Goku doing chores. Still, good to see those driving lessons came in handy.
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Jun 18, 2015 21:39
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Now we just need to see Piccolo tear off his cape to reveal POST BOY underneath and the world shall be glorious.
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Jun 18, 2015 21:53
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StrifeHira posted:Science Pirate is the best title. I'm going to stick in a crew of Science Pirates as one of the premade adventures in my game now. You have convinced me.
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There's something almost naive about that online era when someone saying "I like to pretend I'm a talking ocelot online" garnered so much hatred, considering that nowadays you have a wide spectrum of legitimately horrifying shitheels loving up the Internet for everyone, whether it's calling SWAT teams down on people, or ranting about how child pornography is free speech, or generally anyone who posts comments on any news article about literally anything. Furries are basically harmless. Let them draw themselves as animal people all they like, even if it's weird sex stuff. Better than more gamergaters in every respect. Although bronies can just gently caress off forever. Mraagvpeine posted:Thank you Xibanya for continuing your analysis. Also this from me. I've enjoyed reading your posts and I've been putting a lot of it to practical use.
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Xibanya posted:Oh yeah? I can't tell you how stoked that makes me. If you have any creative stuff to show off, let me know! If you don't think this thread is the place, send me a PM. Well it's less creative and more technical. I've been trying to do some comic book storyboards and this post really helped out. I realised I didn't have to try and draw in crappy stick figures or grab stock photos or anything, I could just use lines and dots to get across what the composition should look like and let the artist work off that and the script. In theory, anyway. I don't actually have an artist, it's all basically just an exercise to see how good at it I can get at it. But I'd really love to do a comic book (or webcomic) some day, and the better at scripting it out I get, the faster the process will be in the future.
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Jun 24, 2015 21:29
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Obviously the movie universe is not the same as the show universe. Parallel timelines! Similar but different!
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Kild posted:Considering how Gotenks worked on Buu... And Goten looking like Goku. I think it was a smart idea not to bring them. "This filthy monkey also has a final form?"
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Furiously scribbling notes for premade adventure ideas over here. (The only ones I have at the moment are one for a plant-based bio-android called Sprout, and one for a cabal of hedonistic space alien dandies out to steal the dragon balls.)
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KoB posted:Im gonna go make my own universe, with Bojack. And hookers. Fixed that for you
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Blockhouse posted:toriyama saying that universe 6 is full of "all-new characters" in his little mini-interview is pretty clear All-new and all-original characters, like Ron Roku, Mister Moshi, and Big Green.
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I like the idea of lady fighters, so I'm making two of the example characters in my RPG ladies. Tato the Saiyan and Android 22. Honestly the only real drawback about lady fighters is that they can't get the same power-up that Goku gets for losing his shirt, at least not without taking the show past a PG rating.
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Jimbot posted:Boob bandages. They lose their shirt the viewership ratings increase by 100000000%. Don't, you'll get Dark_Titzanime to show up in this thread, all sweaty and out of breath.
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Hold onto your asses, rear end-holders, because DBM has some competition now.
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sharktamer posted:Aren't the supreme kais the gods of creation? All they ever do is lie around fishing all day. Beerus takes some pretty long naps, they probably have a decent amount of spare time to relax.
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Parallax Scroll posted:In BoG Beerus says something about destroying planets so new ones can be made, but I don't think it's ever specified who does the creating. Porunga
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