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Seph posted:Yeah I don't love Newsom, and I'd be happy to see him lose to someone more progressive next year, but I hope he wins by a huge margin with this recall election. He's made some poor decisions, especially in terms of optics, but nothing he's done has been remotely worthy of a recall. I don't like the precedent that a recall can be used for sour grapes - it should be reserved for egregious failures. Having dinner at a fancy restaurant during a pandemic is a terrible look, but it's not an egregious failure. Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at as well - I don't particularly like the guy, but I don't think he's done anything that rises to the level of a recall.
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https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1391810876840181761quote:Armed with a projected $75.7 billion budget surplus, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday unveiled an economic recovery plan that would send new direct payments to millions more Californians and additional relief for renters. Assuming the stimulus checks go out quickly, I'd say that puts Newsom in a pretty strong position heading into the recall election.
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May 10, 2021 19:53
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So, Gavin certainly had a day today: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1404924199098011648 https://twitter.com/jpanzar/status/1404885061481099269
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Mark your calendars, folks https://twitter.com/AP/status/1410714610362208258
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https://twitter.com/Caitlyn_Jenner/status/1416109590303805447 What is that important work commitment, you might ask? https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1416088245730004997
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tigersklaw posted:By what metric is she the top Republican challenger? The metric of "who the gently caress else is there?", mostly.
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Jul 17, 2021 05:04
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Centrist Committee posted:https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/COVID-in-California-The-latest-news-and-updates-16367922.php Maybe I'm missing something here, but what exactly is the problem with that particular statement?
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Aug 6, 2021 23:00
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a.lo posted:I think the Republican strategy should be have nobody run for governor during elections and then immediately petition for a recall I mean, if this succeeds, it wouldn't surprise me if this actually did become the Republican strategy going forward. Is there a limit on how many times a governor can be recalled during their term? We could have an election every year!
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Aug 7, 2021 00:13
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Sydin posted:Elder wouldn't be able to pass any of his agenda even if he won: a successful recall does not eliminate the iron grip the dems have on the CA legislature. An Elder victory would at most mean a year and change of lovely executive decisions and horrible messaging. We would be absolutely hosed on the COVID front for sure. I think the bigger long-term effect of a successful recall is that every Dem governor going forward will be constantly looking over their shoulder for a potential recall effort from the right, which will make passing meaningful progressive policy that much more difficult. Which is why I personally can't really get behind the whole "wouldn't it be funny if Gavin got recalled lol" thing.
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Aug 7, 2021 15:37
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https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1426228184874356738 I mean, when has a Dem Senator suddenly dying ever derailed a Dem president's plans before
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Aug 13, 2021 18:36
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PageMaster posted:When does this vote happen? New to California (from Seattle) and just applied for me DL with voter registration requested); do I get to play in this, and where do I start reading up on it? Election Day is September 14th.
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Aug 13, 2021 21:09
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https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1426589024584613891 It's funny how Republicans keep getting tripped up by this one incredibly basic question.
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Aug 14, 2021 21:45
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To be fair, there is a strategic justification for not putting forward a backup candidate - in a hypothetical scenario where 40-45% of the electorate is lined up behind a single Republican candidate, putting forth a backup risks pushing the "Yes on Recall" vote over 50%, and then potentially having that backup candidate lose out to the Republican. The problem is, in the scenario we have now, where there is no strong Republican candidate, the "no backup" strategy becomes a lot riskier. The Dems bet poorly on that one.
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confused posted:Again, that's just hubris. In a scenario you describe where a candidate where someone, say a former action movie star, wins with 48.6% of the vote in a crowded field, that's called "democracy." What they are saying is, "We believe in democracy, as long as we win." The 2003 recall was a situation where the majority of people just wanted Davis out, period, and in that case the Dems were screwed no matter what strategy they took. Having a backup candidate didn't save them. As for "democracy", it's worth reiterating that the Republicans engineered this recall explicitly because they're hoping to eke out a narrow victory in a low-turnout election, because they know that the voters would likely re-elect Newsom in the regular election next year.
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Aug 15, 2021 16:40
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confused posted:Understood, but that's the rules of the game. I think the recall is silly, but they followed the rules and made it happen. I'm not a fan of Newsom, but I didn't have any burning need to see him recalled. However, I'm not at all mad at them for making it happen. The rules are the rules, sure. Not disputing that. As for Biden/Harris, a new poll just came out this morning showing Biden and Harris at 64% and 60% approval among California voters, respectively, slightly above Gavin's own approval rating at 57%. So they're probably not doing any harm by coming to stump for Newsom.
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Aug 15, 2021 17:05
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I feel like we're getting a bit far afield from the topic of California politics here. Anyway, more recall stuff: https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1427309958886924291 https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1427310569166573569
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Aug 16, 2021 18:09
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confused posted:Even if some crazy ends up as governor, I'm not super worried about it. The government is a massive bureaucracy with many other elected officials at the top levels, so getting things done even when everyone else agrees with you in principle is really hard. That's why, IMHO, Jerry Brown was so effective the second time around. He knew exactly what arms to twist and how and when to expend his political capital. Additionally, if a crazy person starts doing crazy things the reaction with be swift and strong. While I agree in general, I think at this specific point in time there are some things the governor could do, especially with respect to mask/vaccine mandates, that would have a significant impact. Hopefully we won't have to find out. In other news: https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1428432884457631744
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Aug 19, 2021 20:11
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1436337610612350981 That's a pretty dramatic shift.
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Sep 10, 2021 18:17
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Canasta_Nasty posted:Also worth pointing out Newsom is telegraphing a further turn to the right: That's a standard thing every politician says after winning an election. It doesn't telegraph anything.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:05
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Celexi posted:yeah, suburban sprawl, Reagan, killing transit, landlords! ...Reagan? What decade do you think we're in?
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Sep 24, 2021 16:46
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https://twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1442569590953811968 Good.
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I don't know why folks are blaming the jungle primary here - a traditional primary system would've resulted in the same two candidates.
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