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Benagain posted:Any reason Veep isn't in the recommended list? Only bourgeoisie scum can afford HBO (seriously though, Veep is fantastic)
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:What are they even going to do? Probably hold John Kerry in contempt, because why the gently caress not. On the plus side their tough talking "prosecutor" heading the committee looks like a cross between Julian Assange and Pepe le Pew, so that's fun. 
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May 8, 2014 03:57
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zoux posted:What if your grandpa had a youtube channel? Man that really reminded me of Leonard, but with complete poo poo ignorance of Constitutional law thrown in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbuPT1ai98I Nessus posted:Before I answer I have to confirm: Which answer is best for Romney's chances? Proceed, Governor. Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 22:57 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 22:55
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to be honest; from a legal standpoint I don't think the government even had the evidence to convict these motherfuckers, let alone go China on them and summarily execute. Yes, I have read the emails, and Yes, I have seen the Levin hearings (they're fantastic). To put more bankers in jail for the poo poo they pulled in 08 would require a substantial revision of securities laws. I completely agree that Wall Street executives who marketed mortgage backed securities that led to the crash are robber baron motherfuckers, and that it would hilarious if Bill Clinton gave Lloyd Blankfein a Colombian Necktie, I just don't think that a criminal prosecution of a top executive under our current laws would result in anything other than an acquittal, or a guilty plea if he is a dipshit, unless there was a paper trail that literally said "hey, let's do this fraudulent thing to defraud investors fraudulently." More controversially, I am also p. sure the DOJ looked into this as best they could, and did not find sufficient evidence to prosecute, because that is how prosecutors do. I do believe that civil charges may have had more luck because of the lower burden of proof, but there is still a lot of plausible deniability for higher ranking folk.
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May 9, 2014 11:17
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Rexicon1 posted:The laws are insufficient I concur completely, I am just maybe challenging the notion that the failure to string up Wall Street is completely the Executive Branch's fault. Edit: I am only speaking from the perspective of being frustrated with how many smoking guns are necessary to put financial dickholes behind bars. I do not know the full extent of DOJ work post-crash, but from what I've seen I can understand why it may have been deficient in this area. Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 11:50 on May 9, 2014 |
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May 9, 2014 11:44
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Shageletic posted:Catching up with the thread and just want to point out that this post is factually incorrect. SEC regulations, Securities law '33, etc, puts the onus on not misleading investors, not establishing intent. Its slam dunk stuff, its why 1110 people were prosecuted for the S 'n' L scandal, why Enron and Arthur Anderson got reamed, etc. Lack of prosecution is a lack of prosecutorial will and balls, never forget that. This is true of some civil violations, criminal penalties do require "willful" violation though, or conspiracy, etc, so whatever man. To nail the fatcats the government would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the fatcats knew that the asset backed securities were complete garbage, and were actually involved in it. Things like the AAA credit ratings from "independent" agencies, presumably shielding themselves from liability by limiting actual involvement and knowledge to low and mid-level thugs (see, Levin's "lovely Deal" hearings), as Mafia leaders did in the past. The government has been trying to nail Steven A. Cohen for 10 years for basically building a fortune entirely from insider trading, and have failed to get a strong enough case to prosecute him even though they (a) loving hate him and (b) 11 or so of his staff have been sentenced to prison. Also, Arthur Anderson was convicted for obstruction of justice for shredding audit work papers. The S&L prosecutions were pretty much entirely low and mid-level losers, and to the extent that executives were prosecuted they were generally officers of relatively small companies. Enron and Worldcom are the few examples of high-level crooks being stupid enough to get personally involved and directing the fraud, which resulted in the prosecutions. The government also had useful witnesses in those cases. Penalties: '33 Act http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/77x '34 Act http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/78ff '40 Act http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/80a-48 Fortune's "Favorite Felonies" from S&L Crisis http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1990/11/05/74309/index.htm EDIT: Maybe they could be charged under RICO or mail fraud or something, I dunno. I think securities laws would be hard. Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 21:57 on May 9, 2014 |
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AnemicChipmunk posted:If they can cut the budget from a state college just because they don't like the literature on a particular subject, then could they do this to punish other schools for teaching/assigning books on evolution/big bang theory/insert topic here? This is basically already happening through the charter school movement (I was shocked to learn that it wasn't solely about screwing over minorities and robbing the state coffer) http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/01/creationism_in_texas_public_schools_undermining_the_charter_movement.html
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Outpost22 posted:Eh, not really right wing, but when I was younger I was one of those "I'm socially liberal, fiscally conservative" types. So still a oval office? Most conservative thing I've ever done is dislike the Bay Area, apparently. It makes a lot of folk here presume I am Republican.
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May 10, 2014 01:29
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Good news, the Republicans are getting cocky about 2014, which means the probability of Senate GOP candidates making weird rape comments, comments disparaging minorities, or comments calling all minority people rapists will be approaching 1: http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/09/the_dizzying_heights_of_republican_optimism.html Weigel posted:[T]hough so many of its points could be obliterated with links to public polls.
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May 10, 2014 03:34
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Spacedad posted:What do y'all make of this: Americans are the dumbest loving people on earth, is what I make of it.
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May 11, 2014 07:52
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agarjogger posted:Widespread and acute fear of Republican government will keep Democratic turnout from being too depressed, so I don't think it'll be as bad as they say. I'm not sure what difference anything will make though. Vetoing one hundred of the most sociopathic loving bills ever to cross a presidential desk, that's more than enough of a legacy for Obama to claim. If they can't tone it down, he can't sign poo poo. And why would they tone it down if they've just picked up the Senate. I think the big things running counter to human decency with Republicunts taking the Senate are; confirmations, and passing appropriations bills. Obama needs both, and with this loving party ruling the entire legislature whatever happens is guaranteed to be worse than the political stasis that has characterized almost his entire presidency, and such stasis sadly is the best possible outcome of 2014. Also holy poo poo, if there has been a party that deserves a victory less and actually got it in U.S. history please point me to it. Edit: vvvv Louis C.K. introduced me to that word and I fell in love with it Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 08:45 on May 11, 2014 |
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shrike82 posted:lawyer  Anyway, I think appropriations exist until the end of FY 2014, which would mean another shutdown is possible at the beginning of October, but that doesn't seem terribly likely.
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Haters Objector posted:Whenever I think Australia cannot possibly get any worse, I remember that I don't live in your piece of poo poo third-world kleptocracy. At least Australians experience buyers remorse when they elect dipshits. Don't know whats the deal with boats, good internet, and censorship tho http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/06/tony-abbotts-popularity-plunges-latest-polls-show Edit: note: my knowledge of Australian politics is limited almost exclusively to watching Clarke and Dawe and Googling what they're talking about Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 10:19 on May 11, 2014 |
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May 11, 2014 10:13
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I'm honestly amazed that hasn't been knocked down and replaced by a McDonald's or something similar.
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May 12, 2014 03:02
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US Politics Thread for June: E/N, but sadder and with more alcohol abuse
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May 12, 2014 03:18
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Hooray someone mentioned murdering bankers again see you all on the other side (3-5 pages from now)
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May 12, 2014 03:52
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I take a lot of meth to better understand the Republican approach to Benghaziwikipedia posted:The psychological effects of methamphetamine can include euphoria, dysphoria, changes in libido, alertness, apprehension, concentration, decreased sense of fatigue, insomnia or wakefulness, self-confidence, sociability, irritability, restlessness, grandiosity and repetitive and obsessive behaviors. Methamphetamine use also has a high association with anxiety, depression, methamphetamine psychosis, suicide, and violent behaviors. Methamphetamine also has a very high addiction risk.
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May 12, 2014 04:15
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forbidden lesbian posted:amphetamines quote:There have been 16999 posts made by forbidden lesbian, an average of 33.37 posts per day, since registering on Dec 18, 2012. Ah
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May 12, 2014 04:27
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Some Democrats competitive for Senate in the South! http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/southern-democrats-competitive-despite-rough-midterm-climate-n102856 Still early, but Mark Pryor of Arkansas seems to have a robust enough lead that I would not be surprised to see him reelected. I know nothing about Michelle Nunn of Georgia, who is slightly behind in the polls, but I could only imagine her winning if her opponent talks about rape. McConnel v. Grimes is going to be the most expensive non-presidential race in U.S. history, so I feel bad for any Kentuckians and all of the stupid poo poo that will be on your airwaves from now until November.
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:To be fair he has kind of a lovely past with liberation theology and I've yet to see anything of substance come out of the church lately that meets his proclamations. I'll admit that the verdict is perhaps yet to be out on Pope Francis but I would like to see more substantive measures taken. Thing about Pope is that he is already an old dude and won't be Popin for several decades like JPII was able to. He has to make changes to the church that are enduring and can't just be rolled back by the inevitably reactionary pope the cardinals are going to elect once he kicks it. That requires incremental changes and persuasion.
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The Warszawa posted:The Court was plenty goddamn political from way before FDR. SO that's why FedSoc has the only events worth going to
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May 13, 2014 21:07
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Can we get a trigger warning ITT for closeups of Ted Cruz's face I'm Literally Shaking
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May 14, 2014 09:14
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Mo_Steel posted:
I am proud that my shitpost eventually led to this.  Evil Sagan posted:There is no way this is the same Alaska that I live in. Do the people they poll not actually vote or something? Alaska is basically a social democracy with nothing to do but smoke pot and hike or whatever, but still love to vote for regressive social policies for whatever reason, so I guess that explains the poll. They were at the forefront of marijuana liberalization in the past IIRC?
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The shakiness of my editing makes it look like the image of Ted Cruz is shaking in some sort of mockery of him.
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GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:I went to read whatever the retarded comments were and got this as an ad: I'm signed up for several Tea Party listservs and this is one of the most common ads that they include. Other common themes: tricks to avoid the effects of Alzheimers (lol), one weird trick to cure cancer (doctor's hate him!), and alternatives to US currency.
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absolem posted:Fun stuff, definitely Holy gently caress. Incredible. Here is your analysis: Step 1: Mortgages to poor people Step 2: ????? Step 3: Mortgages are a systemic contagion I would write a rebuttal but your "analysis" has been rebutted by economists and financial experts about as much as "there is no anthropogenic climate change" has been by scientists so whats the point
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TO THEIR CREDIT: Austrian economists did predict our austerity driven economic boom that we all live in today EDIT: Trap loving sprung, Warszawa, nice Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 09:20 on May 22, 2014 |
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