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cafel
Mar 29, 2010

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Jagchosis posted:

to the extent that he talks about politics, Louie C.K. has got some good beliefs. He is ignorant about the specifics of this and that (for instance, he literally carries kruggerands in his pocket believing that to be a good investment) but on the whole I can't find anything wrong with his views, though some tumblrites would probably find him to be "problematic"

I suppose it's a good investment from the perspective that a mugger would be in a really good mood after you handed them over to him. It's like the ultimate mugger money.

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cafel
Mar 29, 2010

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Everything I know about Watergate, I learned through old Doonesbury strips.

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Sergg posted:

It's amazing the amount of emotional capital people sink into into the Israeli/Palestinian conflict considering how low-intensity it is compared to all the other conflicts going on all around it.

It involves Yaakov Kirschen, a large part of my emotional capital is tied up in despising everything from his art to his opinions. Syria needs to turn out more bad political cartoons if they want my interest.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Bleusilences posted:

I just did my groceries and I just realize that the price of beef is completely retarded. I check a few graph and also check the increase of the price of gas and utilities and we are heading at the same point(same price peak) we were at in 2008. Are we going into another recession?

sources: http://www.beefretail.org/wholesalepriceupdate.aspx

No, this is a combination of the cutback in beef consumption during the depths of the Great Recession causing ranchers to cut back on the size of their herds, followed by a devastating drought in the prime ranching land of Texas further reducing herd size. Due to the long time span it takes to grow a calf to the right weight to be brought to slaughter there's a bit of a lag in the movement of beef prices after those kinds of things, it's why we're only really beginning to see it now even though the drought in Texas is over. It'll be a few more years of high prices before ranchers can bring their herds back up to a more reasonable size.

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Mar 29, 2010

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A nice smoked paprika aioli mixed with the meat and as a spread makes them pretty tasty.

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Mar 29, 2010

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paragon1 posted:

Didn't a socialist party candidate for president get like 20% of the popular vote one time? I think he was in prison at the time.

Eugene V. Debs. The popularity of anarchism and socialism in America and Europe during the late 19th and earl 20th centuries definitely seems glossed over in most history courses in America, though given how quickly both movements disintegrated in the face of World War 1 nationalism, I don't think they're covering up a threat per se.

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Mar 29, 2010

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radical meme posted:

Yesterday, I started a derail over youthful exploration travel in the U.S. compared to Europe in the politics thread and then failed to carry my end of the argument after challenging Nintendo Kid to prove he was right. Anyway, I feel I owe Nintendo Kid a response but it belongs here, if any where, and not in the politics thread.

The focus was an argument over which was cheaper; travel in Europe, which would have to include cost of getting there, or the great American road trip. I excluded the great American stoner road trip composed of you and your 3 or 4 best buds, with a bag or weed. Nintendo Kid argued that the Route 66 road trip was cheaper and I challenged him to do the math and prove it and that's where I dropped the ball. As I said over in the politics thread, I apologize to Nintendo Kid for calling him an idiot, that wasn't right. I'll say that if he in fact, in 2011, did an across the country road trip for $1,000, total, then again, he is right and I was wrong and I applaud him for his thrifty travel. In fact, the great American road trip is the unique counterpart to the European backpack, train ride, hostel trip.

You can fly to Europe/Great Britain for under $800. You have to be selective about which cities in Europe you fly into, you have to look for deals and be flexible and you have to use services that give discounts to young and student travelers. Once you get there, the cost of lodging is cheaper and more extensive than here in the U.S. and the cost of transportation between cities is cheaper.

The difference between the two trips of exploration is in getting to where you're going. As Nintendo Kid pointed out, we don't have rail or bus systems in the U.S. that are worth a poo poo so we grow up relying on our cars and they are the natural mode of getting from here to there. The two trips are unique based on the infrastructure available but Nintendo Kid's trip was cheaper.

I just finished up a month and a half American road trip from New York to LA for two people that came out to just a bit more than what Nintendo Kid's trip apparently cost. It's pretty easy if your only expense is cheap street food and gas. Lodging is definitely cheaper in Europe, but if you're on a road trip you can forgo paying for lodging and sleep in your car if you want to cut costs to the bone. Use YMCAs, applicable churches and rest and truck stops for showers. This recent road trip came out to quite a bit less than a similarly long trip in Europe I once took since the total price of gas for two came out to about the price of a cheap airline ticket for one and we slept in the car except for the few times we crashed on acquaintances couches.

Not to say that the American road trip is better or anything, but as long as you have a decent car going into it you can make it very cheap. Though I guess if you're the type of person who can very easily make friends you could couch surf across Europe and render the difference moot.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Chantilly Say posted:

I thought the great American road trip was just walking out to the side of the road with your thumb out. Doesn't cost anything... most of the time.

I've never owned a car, though.

Yeah, but I hated 'On The Road' so I figured I'd actually go somewhere and cut out the boring early part where I keep running out of money and turning back home.

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Mar 29, 2010

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made of bees posted:

I'm too young to remember it and history classes never got anywhere near that recent, what was the deal with Desert Storm?

It proved that George H.W. Bush was so poo poo that even the most successful and photogenic military campaign in history couldn't save him.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Mexican Deathgasm posted:

I have a question that I posed in GBS that you all probably have better information about :

I have barely met any Jewish people in my life. I've never grown up around Jewish communities. I dislike Israel for a variety of reasons, none of which are that they're a Jewish country. The most I know about Jewish people is that there seem to be a lot of successful Jewish people, and Jewish culture produces some of my favourite comedians and entertainers.

My question is: where does modern anti-Semitism come from? I understand the stupid reasons that racists have for hating most groups of people (they look different and talk different, durr!), but I don't know why an average uneducated moron would hate a Jewish person, other than that they're not Christian, or some crazy conspiracy theory.

I apologize if this is an overly hot-button issue, I'm just genuinely curious as a Canadian that has had most of his information about Jewish people come from American media. Hopefully this is the right thread for it.

Pretty much all of the modern stuff is rooted in rather ancient societies where the best way for rulers to maintain internal stability was to enforce a lot of conformity. Jews tended to reject efforts to get them to conform to local social and religious traditions. Judaism places a lot of emphasis on marrying within the community and things like dietary rules mean that a lot of goods and services must be bought from within the community. Leaders disliked and distrusted them for refusing to integrate, often assuming they were plotting some kind of overthrow of their rule and the common folk disliked them because they were different and a highly visible scapegoat.

Of course the amount of anti-Semitism and the form it took (anywhere from glares and angry mumbling to pogroms) varies widely across space and time. There are instances of leaders trying to protect Jewish communities from an angry populace due to sympathy or economic concerns and there are cases of leaders desperately trying to whip up angry crowds to kill Jews to distract from other internal problems.

These days there are also elements of Jew seemingly being aligned with the Western world. So a lot of people see the global Jewish community as being on the opposite end of the political spectrum, combine this with centuries or even millennia of suspicion and persecution and you get modern anti-Semitism.

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Mar 29, 2010

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I've seen some neat structures built out of cargo containers, but uh yeah, doesn't seem like the best kind of thing for human habitation.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Majorian posted:

Does anybody know any good bbq in the Santa Barbara area? I've been living here for a year and I don't know where to go.

If you include pit stuff in your definition of bbq then there should be plenty of decent Santa Maria style tri tip places around you. If you want anything outside of that your best bet is to just make your own.

The Warszawa posted:

I've never actually been to California but I really want to go. Not sure whether to go to L.A. or the Bay Area.

The Warszawa posted:

I'm either doing tourism really right or really wrong because my itinerary is always the same:

1) Street food
2) Day drink
3) Historical, cultural, or personal attraction
4) "Good" food
5) Nightlife (see, e.g., 1 and 2)

As an LA native who actually really likes LA, I still usually tell people to do tourist-y stuff in the Bay Area because the Hollywood stuff people normally do is lamest poo poo on the planet and the Bay Area is much more compact and easy to get around. However if you stick with that itinerary and also really like Korean food I'd say come to LA, the food and night life in Koreatown can be quite fun and the Getty museums beat all the cultural institutions I've visited in the Bay Area. Though it'll still suck overall if you don't rent a car, public transportation can get you pretty much anywhere, but the sprawl means that it'll take forever.

ReindeerF posted:

Here's a multinational thing you'll come to grips with as you spend time overseas. Island nation cuisines suck. For obvious reasons.

The glorious island of Nippon begs to differ bakka gaijin. :japan:

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Mar 29, 2010

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Aurubin posted:

I've tried it several times, but I really don't like falafel. I like chick peas and fava beans, just not fried I guess. Is this a failing on my part?

I was about to say yes, but I realized that I see falafel as more a delivery system for garlic sauce and pickled vegetables than as a food in and of itself.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Joementum posted:

If you're going to California, spend at least a week in Victorville. It's worth visiting and is full of culture and fun activities.

It offers easy access to the most demanding mountain hikes in Southern California, so if you wanna take a bunch of 12 mile out and back hikes with 600-700 foot elevation gain with each mile to the peak, and you don't want to drive much, I guess it's the spot for you. On one hand the view from the peaks seems to stretch on forever, on the other hand the endless view is of Riverside county sprawl.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Joementum posted:

or the Museum of Jurassic Technology in LA,

I lived like four blocks away from the Museum of Jurassic Technology, grew up staring at the front door because it's right next to my bus stop and I had nothing better to do while waiting for the bus. It was this mysterious blank slate, a windowless façade with a simple sign and a closed door and as a child I was half convinced it was the front for some kind of secret society. One day when I was older I went in on a whim and it somehow managed to be stranger than the visions my childhood self had dreamed up.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Majorian posted:

This. LACMA is pretty cool too.

LACMA is alright, but it pales in comparison to some of the older cities art museums. When you compare it to the Art Institute of Chicago, or the Metropolitan Museum of Art, LA really doesn't have an institution that packs as punch as other major US cities. Though if you aggregate art museums across the greater LA area and make some kind of mashup of the Getty Museum and Villa, LACMA, the Norton Simon Museum, MOCA and MOMA, maybe you get something comparable.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Jerry Manderbilt posted:

holy poo poo what

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/30/abandoned-nazi-compound-withers-away-in-the-hills-of-pacific-palisades/

Built by some American Nazis on the assumption that after Hitler conquered Europe he'd come visit Hollywood and chat up celebrities.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Zeitgueist posted:

One weird one is Solvang, which is kind of an odd tourist trap of a Danish town in the middle of nowhere near Santa Barbara.

Ugh, one of my college roommates grew up there, would never stop talking about aebleskiver and akvavit. I'd think if you were raised in that environment you'd want to branch out from it, not embrace it whole heartedly.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Willa Rogers posted:

* walking the Venice boardwalk, then the Venice canals, then Abbott Kinney Blvd. Kill the mime on the boardwalk for me, but drop a dollar in Brother Ibrahim's bucket if you see him.

Just watch out for sudden freak lighting, apparently that's a problem now. Probably global warming.

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* Canter's Deli on Fairfax

Langer's or death. :colbert:

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Mar 29, 2010

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cheerfullydrab posted:

I'm not 100% certain that California is a real place. It seems like it was created entirely as it is, as if someone had invented it for a book, rather than something arisen out of history that was built over the course of generations of human beings. Like it's just a jumble of random nothing with no context to it. What's real? The East Coast. My town has industrial pollution dating back to the 17th century that can still poison you! Is my attitude towards California the way insufferable Europeans feel about America in general? I know California is very pretty, the most populous state, and huge amounts of our culture and agricultural products come from there, I really do.

The Spanish/Mexican have actually been here for a really long time, not as long as places further South, but they have been here for centuries. On the indigenous people front, if you go to the islands off the coast and know what to look for you can find some of the oldest human habitated sites on the continent.:ssh:

Though yeah, the stuff that involves peoples besides Native Americans or the Spanish tends to be kinda recent.

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

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Joementum posted:

Kids these days.


Get off my lawn, etc.! :argh:

I'm pretty sure putting Vick's vapor rub or tiger balm near sensitive areas to keep oneself alert is a practice that's old as gently caress. This is some of the stupidest poo poo I've ever heard, on par with people drinking soap and butt chugging. Pretty soon the big story will be about how kids are sticking Burt's up their rear end to get ultra high, then flash mobbing to kill old people.

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Mar 29, 2010

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I still fear going to Australia because I was exposed to that Cane Toad documentary multiple times at a young age and my mental image of Australia involves it being buried under a thick layer of those disgusting fuckers.

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

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Holy poo poo, this is the funniest poo poo I've heard in long, long time.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Mauser posted:

So a while back someone posted a link to the song "Come all ye coal miners" and there was a bit of Appalachia chat. I was wondering if any of you know of any good documentaries or movies set during industrialization with a focus on labor movements. I have a feeling that it would pair well with the bottle of whiskey and foul mood I have at the end of a long work week. laters~

Harlan County, USA is a 70's documentary on a long running strike by the coal miners in said county. Not super informative, but it gives you an interesting look into what it was like on the ground, especially how hard the coal miners continued to have to struggle in Appalachia well after industrialization. Harlan County is also notable for a 1930's strike which inspired a wife of a miner to write the classic 'Which Side Are You On?'

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Mar 29, 2010

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Sardines, mashed avocado and a bit of vinegar and salt on toast is pretty delicious and almost healthy for you in the 'good fats' kind of way.

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Mar 29, 2010

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Joementum posted:

Oh, and on the subject of Obama's birthday, apparently Nancy Pelosi is a racist.

Maybe she just knows him well enough to know he really likes dark chocolate? I'm kinda hoping that's it and not the racist thing.

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Mar 29, 2010

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In honor of Barrack Hussein Obama's birthday, his family has kicked off the RaHoWa. I say death to whitey.

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Mar 29, 2010

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My Imaginary GF posted:

Mitt Romney.

E: Realanswer, Reid's opinion on Italians

I was going to make a joke about slick haired goombas making a move onto his turf, but then I looked it up and apparently that's exactly what he believed.

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Mar 29, 2010

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I do some environmental monitoring in wetland sites and there's nothing creepier than finding raccoon tracks in the mind. Their evil little almost human hands. Plus they try to eat all the endangered birds.

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Er... mud. Hopefully in the mud.

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