Costume Thread: The Boob Window of Opportunity

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Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Are you guys going to talk about wonder woman's outfit from the new superman film?

I don't know if this thread is comic books only but comic book movie outfits seem like a relevant topic.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2014 19:32

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 04:13

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I like the smile on hulk in that last picture. Dude's finally found inner peace.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 11:25

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Ashcans posted:

The problem is really that there is no good iconography for Britain that translates easily into a costume. The Union Jack is a very messy flag, and it's difficult to simplify in any way without it becoming unrecognizable. If you extract the colors you just have red, white, and blue, and it's going to be hard to not just be designing an off-brand Captain America (although this might be said to be an overall problem with the character in general).

If you decided to say gently caress it and just make a Captain England it would have two problems; first, that it would look an awful lot like Captain Red Cross, and also that St. George's cross is really only used by football fans and weirdo nationalists, so it's not exactly taking you in the right direction.

Britain doesn't have great, clear symbols, its all poo poo like lions and unicorns and intertwined roses or bulldogs and fat men in waistcoats.

The Jack Flag and Union Jack pictures above really have the best shot at it, I think, in terms of something you want to be redrawn tons of times on the page.

The problem with British nationalism and flag waving is it always comes back to our giant terrible racist empire. There are bits of British culture and history to be proud of, but they aren't associated with the Union Jack nearly as strongly as the British Empire is. Like when I look at this guy:

Hulk Smash! posted:

I think "probably something the EDL would make", not "proud and noble Briton :britain:

# ¿ Jan 9, 2015 19:36

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Hakkesshu posted:

Kitty has always had a costume problem.

This is one of the absolute worst costumes in comics today. I hate it. It looks so dumb.

I thought Cyclops' big red X was a physical object, like his regular visor is. Is it always meant to be just a red bit of is costume vacuum formed into every contour of his face?

# ¿ Jan 13, 2015 17:12

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Superman has fingerless glove sleeve endings now. No word on whether looking like a middle aged man having a seizure is part of this exciting new redesign.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2015 20:44

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Teenage Fansub posted:

Hey look. We get a second new Superman costume today in Action Comics #39 when Soups pictures himself at the end of the world.

e: I guess he's wearing hero mementos like a utility belt and the cosmic staff.

I didn't realise the flesh tone on his arm is a bit of fabric or something (is it aquaman's fish scale shirt?), which I don't like as much as the idea that he's been around so long his suit is worn and missing a sleeve. I like it a lot better than the other superman costume though, because every bit of the design says "I'm old and worn out and I'm on my own". He's got the scruffy hobo hair with bits of grey, the superman S is backed on black instead of a happier yellow, the boots have those fat cuffs that make it look more like a 50s/60s superhero costume, which fits the simple, earnest narrative the page is trying to tell, and the scraps he's added to his costume work as mementos of his friends and also to give a piecemeal, end-of-society survivalist look to him. Even the individual objects he's chosen to keep make sense in that regard - a staff he can walk with, a belt with pockets on, a bit of protective armour. A good costume.

Compare with the other superman costume, where he has obtained exciting new super energy powers, shown by slightly longer cuffs, and maybe a light up belt buckle that, when it is not lit up, does not look like it could light up. If it even lights up, and isn't a colouring error.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 16:51

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Discendo Vox posted:

What is with the Literal Referred Animal Features approach. Batman never literally looked like a giant bat, unless he'd been injected with plot-serum. It was always abstracted and symbolic, and any attributed features were in the mind of the superstitious and cowardly observer. What does it say about designer perception of viewer intelligence that we're in the costume design equivalent of tell don't show?

Batman's costume isn't trying to say the same thing as Raven's costume though. Raven looks like that because she's about weird demon magic, which is why it's got a weird organic materials look to it. Batman's costume is man-made and designed with a scary bat motif because he's about applying science and technology to dressing like a creepy bat man and scaring criminals, which is why it looks like it is made out of regular fabrics and not out of bat leather or something. It doesn't say anything about how smart the designers think the readers are.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 13:02

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

mind the walrus posted:

See I still don't get that from her New 52 costume. She looks like an idiot wearing a bad riff on Femto from Berserk, which himself looks like a bad riff on Michael Keaton's Batman costume (and very probably was given that Femto first appeared in 1991).

I'm not saying that it works, I'm just saying that's presumably the idea behind her costume using more organic looking materials instead of just some robes, or a spandex costume cut to look a little bit like a raven.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 14:20

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Gatts posted:

I seriously like the designs in the link below. Or at least the artist's style. These are very interesting.

http://imgur.com/gallery/ZQnAM

I guess it might be too much for a monthly comic but a lot of rpgs have beautiful and amazing designs. I'd love more of that influence in movies and specials.

Some of those are cool, but I don't really like how both of the wonder woman (are they both wonder woman?) costumes look like swimsuits with a bunch of details piled on top of them instead of completely cohesive designs. The cynical approach is just to say that it's titillation, but even putting that aside it's wasteful because part of the costume is just dedicated to saying "check out her thighs" instead of saying anything about the character at all.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 18:01

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Thor's tiny helmet is dragging that design right down for me. It looks really ornamental and clashes with the rest of his clothing, which otherwise seems very practical.

# ¿ May 11, 2015 09:20

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Alhazred posted:

Well, except for the cape.

Cloaks are perfectly practical space viking travel wear. It even comes with a hood.

# ¿ May 11, 2015 18:21

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

VagueRant posted:

I just got round to reading the Fraction/Aja Hawkeye run and is it weird that Clint/Kate's ordinary modern clothing with purple flourishes, accessorised by plasters and bandages - is kinda the coolest "costume" I've seen in a long time?

One of the reasons it works so well is because the Fraction/Aja Hawkeye story is a low key, domestic personal stakes story about Hawkeye's personal life is constantly being intruded upon by his vigilantism, and how he doesn't really draw a distinct line between his Hawkeye identity and his Clint Barton life the way some superheroes do. It's full of moments where he starts the day with the intention of doing something normal and ends up in a car chase shooting arrows at people or whatever.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2015 11:35

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

That Vampirella costume is real bad imo. I dunno who Vampirella is and the costume isn't communicating information that helps me understand who she is and what she does in the way that Red Sonja's does (she's a barbarian!), and communicating information about a character to the audience is literally the #1 job of a character design. Like, it's some kind of gothy, schoolgirl-y exercise wear, maybe, With some weapons sorta strapped to it and logo on the back. Her weird little jumpsuit thing is overdesigned and also doesn't really correlate with any real world clothing apart from maybe like, rock climbing clothes or something? I guess with different shoes she'd look like a vampire rock climber.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2015 08:55

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

SirDan3k posted:

I'm gonna get super real for a minute.

That costume perfectly communicates what the character is and her purpose and we all know it.

Yeah her original design is a very good design because it fulfills the brief of "vampire pinup girl"perfectly. Like, in design terms, it's working perfectly as intended.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2015 12:15

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

13 is too busy in the actual detailing but the picture is kinda small and and the colours mesh together enough for you to enjoy the silhouette it has, which is a really nice one. It looks very strong, lots of big blocky shapes. I like the shoes (the heels are unnecessary, though). I like the headsock on her in most of the outfits, too - I think it's kind of a pointless design element on a lot of characters but she's a psychic so it's a nice way to kind of focus the design around her head and face to build up that association with doing mind poo poo, without making it into a mask (which just reads "I don't want people to know who I am").

# ¿ Feb 21, 2016 12:09

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I like a lot of those designs but I'm kind of wondering what firestorm does as a character? Like I think I read a JLA book with him in it once. Designing a character to fit in with the role and the setting of their story is part of what makes a character design work or not, and with firestorm I'm kind of lost. Is he one of those superheroes that is only popular enough to show up in like, superhero groups? Where does he live?

It also bums me out that none of those designs really call notice to the fact that there's two people working together to control him, which seems to be kind of a unique selling point for the character.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2016 23:04

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

prefect posted:

B. What's with those boots?

It's to show she's invulnerable, she doesn't need to worry about scraping her knees when she falls over. A strong design choice imo.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 20:51

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Filling the hole with mesh would work, and it'd give the costume some texture variation. I think part of the reason tit/flesh windows are so prevalent is yeah, they're a sexualisation thing, but it also means that in terms of what colours a character design is using, it distributes the flesh tone you have on the character's face elsewhere on the body, which can help balance a design out, especially if you have more exposed skin elsewhere on the body (i.e. the prevalence of female superhero costumes having bare legs). But that doesn't really excuse the fact that yeah, it's blatantly sexualisation.

# ¿ Apr 18, 2016 12:39

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Travis343 posted:

Reeve is still the best Superman by a long shot. He can pull off an otherwise cheesy outfit with sheer earnestness and an imposing physique. You're not gonna make fun of his costume, are you? His mom made it for him. Don't be a dick. He looks like a Curt Swan drawing brought to life, perhaps through Cool World style magics.

Reeve's outfit fits in well with the tone and production design of the film he's in. I'm not sure how well basketball texture would even show up on 70s film stock, honestly. Similarly, very flat textures on modern, high def movie footage would, I think, look very different than they do in the 70s/80s Superman films.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2016 15:14

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

When that picture got posted in CineD a week or two ago someone mentioned that they looked more like aliens peering through your bedroom window at night than anything particularly heroic, and now I can't unsee it.

# ¿ May 18, 2016 14:34

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Batman and Flittermouse

# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 08:06

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Toadstrieb posted:

I'm basically into it.

At least it'll let you see where the hell spider man is on a screen that's probably gonna be painted black, grey, and brown, like every other big title these days.

I dunno how brown the art direction in this game is but the white torso design might make it easier for players to distinguish what he's doing frame by frame, since spiderman flips around a lot and as a video game player character it needs to be obvious what he's doing at any point in an animation (punching, swinging etc) from any camera angle.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 13:09

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Lurdiak posted:

I do not understand all the people saying the white spider logo will let them keep track of the character dressed in vivid primary colors.

It is not about keeping track of the character within his surroundings, it's about keeping track of what the character is doing. Spiderman is wearing patterns of bright blue and red all over his body, so if he's, say, crouching mid jump and you have the camera facing him on certain angles he runs the risk of becoming a big mess of reds and blues instead of registering to the player as a figure in mid - jump. That's the theory behind it anyway! I only saw the trailer once. I'm just talking about it as a design principle, to suggest a reason why the suit might have a big white spider on the torso. I also like design, so I find this kind of medium/media specific design factor really interesting.

Bayonetta is a good example of this design principle. Her outfit is all black but her guns (on her hands and feet) are bright red, so the player can read her animations easily (because they can always tell where her hands and feet are).

# ¿ Jun 16, 2016 16:40

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Has a headsock ever looked good?

Here's a live action one (Kid Flash from the Flash TV show):

# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 20:40

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

FAT BATMAN posted:

My main complaint is how Cyborg looks. I was kind of hoping Hollywood would give him a cool new look, because something about his current comic look just doesn't sit well with me for live action.

I like the joke someone made that he looks like a graphics card with a face.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2016 10:42

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I like that flash. It streamlines him and gives him an interesting silhouette that is distinct from the other superheroes in the lineup, and it looks kind of like really specialised sportswear or something. It's a good look. It emphasises his thighs and downplays his arms, too, which is a good way to communicate that his thing is running.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2016 09:44

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 04:13

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Ashcans posted:

I suspect that Cyborg is pretty miserable there too, but his whole costume is a mess so its just injury to insult.

Let's not kid ourselves here, Ray Fisher is spending 99% of his scenes in a green bodysuit with the little mo cap ping pong balls on it. Maybe there's a kinda simple, easy to wear version of that outfit that he throws on for really wide shots.

I mean, if you're talking about the actual character then yeah, I guess he's pretty bummed out that he's kind of a boring generic robot from the neck down.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2016 16:22

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