RonMexicosPitbull posted:

I guess I'll go ahead and say it.

What kind of drooling retard watches that video of a guy jumping in front of racecars in a turn, sees him get hit by the back end as the driver is swerving away and thinks "yea that was murder"?

CharlestheHammer posted:

I don't think anyone watched that particular video.

I would love to see it.

Mahoning posted:

Yeah it pretty much looks like Tony Stewart is following the line of the 45 car, which narrowly avoids hitting the young driver. In the video even, the kid disappears behind the 45 car for a second or two. It's not inconceivable that Tony Stewart didn't see the kid in the dark racing suit until he was very close to him and then gunned the engine to avoid hitting him. It was really his only option if he already thought he was going to hit him, since turning the wheel while not in the throttle does nothing in these sprint cars on a dirt track.

Or maybe he really did do something stupid like try to scare/clip the kid. I don't know. But the first scenario I just described is a hell of a lot more likely. The kid didn't deserve to die or even be hurt at all, but getting out of your race car and walking around on the track while other cars are still running is like Russian Roulette. With how dumb and childish race car drivers act I'm surprised this is the first time this has happened to be honest. Maybe NASCAR will start suspending drivers that do this poo poo and basically condone this sort of childish display.

Anyways, I hope Tony loses every dime he has in the civil case, but he's not a murderer.

Mahoning posted:

The burden of proof in a civil trial is a hell of a lot different than in a criminal trial. It's "based on the preponderance of evidence" instead of "beyond a reasonable doubt".

All they would need to prove in a civil trial is that Tony Stewart recklessly tried to scare the kid and killed him. If 50.1% of the evidence supports that, Tony would lose.

No, I'm not a lawyer. Yes, I might be talking out of my rear end.

Eifert Posting posted:

Isn't this the same guy who nearly killed a few people last year?

ALFbrot posted:

BUT GUNNING THE ENGINE IS THE ONLY WAY THESE CARS CAN TURN

*six cars coast past man on track, seventh guns the engine to turn*

CBJSprague24 posted:

...because, if I remember right, didn't he spin to avoid t-boning another driver?

ALFbrot posted:

*driver of said car guns throttle*

I refuse to believe that, at those speeds, gunning the throttle is the best way to turn. The car wasn't going very fast, but suddenly, the huge back tires were rotating very, very fast, because noted racing hothead Tony Stewart decided to be the one driver to push his foot down on the gas pedal.

edit: No, I don't think Tony meant to hit or kill the kid. I think, at worst, he was trying to scare him. At best, he couldn't avoid him. I think it's likely a lot closer to worst than best.

Brogeoisie posted:

yeah, this is true, but because of the speed he was going at, he wouldn't have killed Ward if he just coasted and clipped him. He accelerated, which exponentially increases the force applied to him when he made contact.

Magugu posted:

Ive drove 360 sprints with ASCS. I think I know a thing or two about racing cars. At medium to high speeds, yes, you have to use the throttle to get through a turn. At low speeds they turn very easily, its just wobbly as hell.

Fag Boy Jim posted:

That was extremely good

Magugu posted:

Not knowing this track, racing speeds are probably 80-110. The flagman would have likely thrown yellow 2-5 seconds after the initial spin. With sprint cars, they are always quick on the yellow.

When your off throttle you lose speed fast due to the drag of the wings. I could be full throttle coming out of 4, and be entering the pits in turn 2 without touching the brakes. The brakes do suck in these cars, you learn the fine art of aerobraking.

I would say that he was 30-40 MPH when tony hit him. Again, not fact, just my educated opinion.

Kirios posted:

This story is the top headline on every news website.

There is no way in hell NASCAR is going to be able to sweep this under the rug.

Tuxedo Jack posted:

Do these guys have some kind of insurance policies for racing? Do they sign any kind of consent forms prior to a race? Does getting out of your car and approaching another negate any of that coverage?

Fag Boy Jim posted:

is it really? i mean, i know it's already stupid to do this in a late model race, and about a million times dumber to do it in a sprint or mods race, but don't people do this anyway?

leica posted:

They DO encourage it openly saying "have at it boys" so you really can't fault the drivers for doing something they're encouraged to do. It's nothing new really, has been going on for decades, and has never been an issue until now.

Also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRY79mat34

leica posted:

Haha not yet.

Cojawfee posted:

Well, the last time he went around, he pushed Ward high and made him tap the wall.

leica posted:

Byolante posted:

Because its always fun to condemn sportsmen as poor role models the kid was just acting out what he sees in NASCAR who don't really object to this idiocy. Also getting run over by one of the most high profile proponents of getting out of your car and yelling at people gives it a little bit more.

Parmesan Basil posted:

This is a bad thread so shut it down please.

canti32 posted:

A slutty, revealing outfit would have been better than an all black helmet and firesuit

Cubey posted:

What the gently caress? I've been a Stewart fan since he was in IndyCar. I can't even imagine where the gently caress you got that idea from but it's dead wrong.

Trin Tragula posted:

I'd bet that this is purely because nobody ever thought a driver in an FIA event would be so utterly stupid as to do anything on a live course other than get the gently caress off it as quickly as possible, so they don't need a specific rule to tell you exactly what to do if it happens. It'd be like inserting a rule that says what you should do if the driver's cockpit should suddenly become filled with custard and traps him there with its non-Newtonian properties.

cname posted:

And stop with the autismal robot comparisons. "You know, you're statistically more likely to die doing X than walking on a hot race track." Watch the loving video, prior to the collision. He wasn't just "walking across a hot race track" he was trying to stop cars by getting in front of them and jumping out of the way way when they got close.