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Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Can't wait for 2k22 to come out and be just as dogshit as every other 2k game except the graphics are slightly better

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Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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El Generico posted:

I know it's because I'm not watching so these people mean very little to me now, but does WWE's roster not seem anemic now? Roman Reigns is the one star, and of course there's this aura of failure he has from them wanting him to be as big as John Cena and he's just not. How do they keep up the brand split like this?

Easy! They just have the same 12 people wrestle the same exact matches every single week for 6 straight months.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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When I see the AEW game I always feel like it's missing some lighting effects that'll really make the style pop and that's something I assume will happen later on.

It certainly seems development is moving slow, but I guess to be fair Yukes had just barely started working on building a new game engine from scratch when AEW came to them to make a deal so there's probably a LOT of backend work that's had to be done the past couple years.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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The ones where it'd go into super-slowmo when you hit a finisher were great.

Honestly the thing that killed the 2K games for me, beyond being broken and unfinished, was the obsession with Realism sucking all the fun out of the games. Just make the drat game fun and that'll get you like 80% of the way there.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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I mean it doesn't really take the Geek Squad to figure out if you dropped a whole-rear end computer off a desk it probably broke something inside.

(for real though it likely did knock something loose or possibly broke something so be ready to replace some poo poo)

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Davros1 posted:

Can't vouch at all for the veracity, so believe at your own risk

https://twitter.com/MikeStrawMedia/status/1436008801644294145?s=20

I mean that's cool and all but given the rate of talent releases you're just gonna be booking John Cena and the Undertaker every week just like the original GM Mode

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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I mean I was kinda joking before but genuinely at the rate people are leaving WWE or getting released from WWE they're gonna have the smallest roster ever by the time 2k22 comes out, there's gonna be no point in a GM Mode when you've got like 10 people to choose from.

I guess that'd at least make it accurate to the real life show where they just book the same 10 people every week then.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Davros1 posted:

I did the same thing with my CAWs in WWE games, to the point I was wishing the Smackdown games were like the AKI games and you could completely edit the look and attires of the in-game wrestlers. This game has 6 Daniel Bryans? Let me edit 5 of them into original characters. I'm never going to play as Velveteen Dream or Lars Sullivan, let me edit them into characters I would play as.

That just reminded me of how the 2K games made alternate attires for existing wrestlers take up CAW slots so why would you ever do it. All the weird artificial limitations they put on how much custom content you could have was so frustrating even in the Good games.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Also having hard limits on custom images which is separate from the file size limitation, which leads to scenarios where you can have plenty storage space but WHOOPS can't download a new CAW cause whoever made the last one you downloaded decided they had to make each nipple its own custom image and that put you at the completely arbitrary 1,000 image limit.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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IGgy IGsen posted:

I downloaded Kenny Omega on 2k18 and not only did both nipples have a separate image but his abs were broken up into multiple images too.

How else could you ensure those were truly, genuine-article Kenny Omega nipples that you would definitely see all the time in the video game?

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Every time you book a wrestler there's a 1/10 chance they get released next week.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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If you set your CAW size less than 6'2" and 240 pounds the game deletes it immediately.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Angry_Ed posted:

If your CAW is under 6' they are renamed to "Shorty <Last Initial>"

Any CAW under 6" can only be used as a manager regardless of wrestling skill

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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If you book any wrestler in their hometown the game makes them lose automatically

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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GM Mode 2k22 is you playing John Laurinaitis and it's just you scrolling through porn at your work computer every day and every couple weeks or so there's a minigame where you send layoff texts to a dozen or so wrestlers.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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GM Mode also includes a diplomacy minigame where you have to go to FOX executives and come up with a list of excuses for why the ratings are dogshit and also why you keep firing all the talent they want.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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HOT TAKE: Fire Pro World's Fire Promoter mode is a better GM Mode than GM Mode.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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IGgy IGsen posted:

That sad thing is that Fire Promoter still isn't very great. I was hyped for it but then I stopped playing it after a couple shows.

GM Mode is so long ago that I can't even compare it to anything anymore. I don't even know what mechanics it had, if it even had any.

It was mainly just making matches and sometimes you'd have enough money to sign more people, and you could buy new Scripts for storylines which made the whole thing a bit weird kayfabe-wise.

Also whatever fun it could have been was hampered by the fact that the WWE roster was depressingly thin at this time so you were basically just booking John Cena vs Randy Orton every week. Though I guess that's pretty accurate to WWE at the time.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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IGgy IGsen posted:

It was pretty fun but I don't think we played more than one session of it because we had this great idea that we'd watch all the matches which really dragged it out.

I don't think there's ever been a wrestling game where watching CPU matches is any fun, with the exception of maaaybe Fire Pro?

WWE games' CPU matches always either drag on forever cause they just spam finishers and reversals nonstop, or they somehow end in 30 seconds to a random pinfall, or the AI bugs out and they just stand at ringside throwing each other into the ring steps repeatedly while they get counted out.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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The Bee posted:

I just want Show Creator back. Long live VGCW.

Honestly if they brought back the Custom Stories and integrated them into Universe Mode I'd take that over GM Mode

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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"Ghost Problems" is the stage in 2k22's career mode where you play as a dying Vince and have to stumble through a river while the souls of all the wrestlers you've fired swarm around you

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Malcolm Excellent posted:

Give Jon Blud the book for Dark

Every week Luther is in the main event

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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IGgy IGsen posted:

Miro shirt he tried to leave behind in the arena but some buffoon (colt) took it home and washed it and wanted to give it back but MIro said nah, I wanna leave that. So he signed it. So now it's a 500 Dollar Miro Shirt.

Miro ($500 Shirt) DLC character for the AEW Game

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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I started a Fire Promoter save recently and so far the most unstoppable monster I've encountered is Def Jam's Fat Joe. He just goes into every match and spams Pedigrees and Bear Hugs until his opponents backs are broken.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Alaois posted:

so he's a faithful recreation of his source material, good

i believe Fat Joe's name in Fight For New York is CRACK

Whoever made the CAW did, in fact, make that his nickname in Fire Pro as well

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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IGgy IGsen posted:

I watched nL playing the booking mode yesterday and the MDickie games feel like the perfect games I want to watch others play, but not under any circumstances play myself.


(Just wona title) "Hey, this isn't working out for me release me from my contract"

I have no idea who'd actually want to play Booker Mode in those games cause they're so random and chaotic, the best way to experience the game is the regular wrestler career mode, as other people have pointed out above

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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This new GM Mode's gonna have the exact same problem as the old one: the roster's gonna be so thin by the time it comes out you'll basically just have to run John Cena vs Randy Orton every single show until the heat death of the universe. Which, to be fair, was at least accurate to the WWE product at the time.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Honestly I don't think I would really miss having so many different kinds of grapples. Every character in WWE 2K games has like 900 different move slots you have to fill and most of them you never see because the AI just spams the same dozen attacks over and over and you're never gonna remember the exact inputs for all of those moves anyway.

If it makes character creation take less than 9 hours I'm for it.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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bartok posted:

Is Batista on the outs with WWE?

He's been pretty vocal about how dogshit the creative and backstage are these days, ever since he left the last time

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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My Fire Pro CAW strategy, for PC at least, is just to go download all the Avenger3 collections in the steam workshop cause that person's caws are all decently good and covers pretty much the whole roster of every notable promotion you might want.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Suplex Liberace posted:

kenny omega it is now 2022 where is my goddamn AEW game!

Gotta wait and see how many people that were gonna be in 2k22 they can add in

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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My prediction is the AEW game will be Fine or even Good but people will have built up so many expectations for what they want it to be that it'll never live up to them.

Like people who get this game expecting it to have like GM Mode and Universe Mode and Season Mode and every single mode/match type/feature that all the 2K games ever had'll probably be disappointed cause this is a brand new game made on a brand new engine and there's no way it'll be as feature complete as the 2K games where Yukes could just keep adding new stuff over the same base game year after year.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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neoaxd posted:

All I need is a decent CAW mode

Here's what I want in a CAW mode:

1: Menus that aren't so slow and messy and cumbersome that it takes 9 hours to make a character that looks halfway decent
2: Organize the move selection so you don't have to browse through like 3,000 animations just to find the one that looks like the move you want, maybe put tags on them so you can filter them better
3: No asinine "100 CAWs or 1,000 image download" limits
4: Bring back Custom Signatures/Finishers
5: Custom Entrance Graphics (at least let you edit existing ones so you can like, copy Kenny Omega's graphics but put your CAWs name on it or something)
6: Alternate Attires don't take up CAW slots

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Dacap posted:

#2 is a great one that I’d like. I hate in a 2k game when they just make moves alphabetical but you have to already know or guess what they’ll call them. I shouldn’t have to scroll down to “s” because they decided to call the specific powerbomb I wanted a “snap release powerbomb”. Standard moves with lots of variations should open up a drop down with options.

Oh yeah that's the worst part. Especially when there's like, one specific Powerbomb/Driver/whatever you want but since it's someone in WWE's signature/finisher it doesn't say Powerbomb in the name so you have to go through every animation in the game to find it. 2K does have a few tabs like Bombs/Drops/whatever but they don't include everything and there's no other layers of filtering so like, if you want a Powerbomb that targets the Head you can EITHER see all the Bombs OR all the moves that target the Head. Either way you have to browse through a shitton of moves that aren't what you want at all.

What I want is like a nested menu. You click Powerbomb and here's every Powerbomb in the game, regardless of what their name is. Then you can click another button to show only the Finishers, or only the ones that are Pin Combos, or only ones that target the Head, or all of the above. Just anything other than "here's 20,000 moves in alphabetical order, have fun!"

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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It really is amazing that MDickie got a wrestling game where you can have 100 people in a match with an arena filled to the ceiling with burning tables and explosions and it runs 500 times better on the Switch than the one attempt 2K made to port a WWE game to it

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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DLC Inc posted:

the nL video for "how fast can we bankrupt our fed" made me choke with laughter: Offering Scott Steiner a "nepotism" contract and then firing Rick right away. Seeing Roman Reigns interrupt a match with a glock. Edge developing disassociative identity disorder wherein he kept referring to himself in the 3rd person as being afraid after every match. D'lo Brown's manager adventures. The booking manager mode just makes some wrestlers go loving insane with no reasons and it's amazing.

My favorite part was since they were playing as JR they decided to roleplay and had him sign Dr Death Steve Williams for the maximum amount of money the game allows which meant any time they booked him it would instantly bankrupt the company

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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It's not a real MDickie tribute show unless you book the person who killed the deceased and at least one more person dies during said tribute show

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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You can book Rey vs Dominik in a "Custody of Dominik Ladder Match"

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Looking forward to trying to book a Women's Royal Rumble in 2k22 when there's gonna be like 9 women in the game by the time it comes out

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Drakkel
May 6, 2007

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Malcolm Excellent posted:

Rey vs Dominik custody of the shared copy of 2k22

What if they did a holographic cover where Rey's face turns into Eddie's and they can have a little Dominick face in the corner that goes from Adult Dominik to Frosted Tips Baby Dominik

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