Ebola Roulette posted:

Splode posted:

This seems extremely dangerous

cobalt impurity posted:

I'm sure we'd all like to hear your ~safer~ solution of removing the gay from a frozen pond!

Dross posted:

Was this actually so long ago now that people don't know this?

No. 6 posted:

Or just fix the holes in the tax laws while slightly increase taxes on individuals who hold the majority of income in the country.

Lamebot posted:

Congratulations! You have been randomly selected for compulsory deportation.

TEAYCHES posted:

WHAT THE gently caress IS THIS LEFTIST HORSE poo poo

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

That would actually work. Stop suggesting plans that don't involve cutting already minor programs, harebrained ideas that came to you in a dream, and literal magic.

Bertrand Hustle posted:

Christ almighty, I was in grade 9.

generative grammer posted:

Socialism: democratic control of the means of production, eg. state/municipal/worker ownership of large industry, mining, large-scale farming, banking etc.; the most radical idiots may include all enterprise including barbershops (communism is the classless utopia that will come after years of socialism)

Not socialism: public health care/insurance, public pensions, public schools, poverty relief / safety nets, fire and police departments, EMT units, national service, the post office, state-managed infrastructure, large-scale public transit (eg. long distance trains), co-operatives, nonprofits and credit unions, state control of markets (cf. mercantilism, protectionism) etc.

All of those have either existed before socialism became a "thing" or have been historically promoted by non-socialist governments. For example, old-timey Christian conservatives supported public health care for the well-being of the national spirit; public schools were supported by Hegelian conservatives and liberals because of the enlightenment of the masses (and to get skilled, obedient workers for the factories). In our country, the Public Health Insurance Bill was passed by a centre-right government (a coalition of agrarians, "folk liberals" and big business conservatives).

When you mix some state ownership / nationalization of industry with a market economy you get social democracy (the Nordic countries pre-90s)

When you leave out state ownership you get various kinds of decidedly non-socialist ideologies that differ in terms of market intervention, land ownership, collective bargaining / labor rights, public services, civic society, civil rights and social cohesion like Social Liberalism (where municipal services don't have to be produced by the municipality itself but can be outsourced to private companies or NGOs; also support for local co-ops, small businesses and family farms), modern American liberalism, populism, fascism/nazism, Christian democracy / One Nation Conservatism / Social marketplace (class harmony and huge boner for national institutions), Liberal conservatism/conservative liberalism (what modern conservative parties adhere to after the aristocracy was replaced by business interests) and Classical Liberalism (aka laissez-faire, even though few liberal thinkers actually promoted unfettered free markets)

The sort of "left is all public and right is all private" doesn't reflect actual ideological history and nuance and is a libertarian invention, hth. The reason why fascists and nazis are considered far-right even though they support somewhat centrist/populist economic policies is because they are more about ultranationalism, militarism, traditionalism, social cohesion and "natural hierarchies" rather than corporatist economics mixed with welfare policies (for the right kind of people only, though); just like the classical rightist monarchists in the late 18th/early 19th century were against capitalism and free trade.

So left/socialist is more like "good of the working class", centrist is "good of the small community" or "good of the individual", and rightist is "good of the nation" or "good of the 'natural born' rulers / aristocracy"

GrrrlSweatshirt posted:

did u write this? did u tap ur 10 gay fingers on the keyboard until this was written and then post it in the penn jillette is fat thread, on gbs?

DoctorWhat posted:

literal tears running down my face

DoctorWhat posted:

oh, do

Spanish Manlove posted:

Man it took you guys a while to realize this.

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

someone had an original question in the askcops thread

THE PENETRATOR posted:

yeah and hopefully the award is a bullet in the brain to put the dumb retard out of his misery if those are the types of posts he makes lmfao

cock hero flux posted:

Maybe, it was pretty dark.

no they will not posted:

Sorry vendagoat, it's a badpost.