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Idran
Jan 13, 2005
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Ema Nymton posted:

Crosspost from old thread: Don't forget about RSS feeds (even though the rest of the world has). By using My Yahoo! or another feed reader, you can see the updates from all your favorite shows. Unless they're on YouTube, which stopped doing RSS.

They only stopped doing RSS for your own subscription page, and stopped publicizing how to access individual account RSS. But the RSS feed link is still there: if you want someone's videos in an RSS feed, it's at http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/base/users/[username]/uploads

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Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

bbf2 posted:

I love their contempt for the direction that YouTubers/internet personalities are moving towards.

I'd be surprised if that played a role in things at all; they seem to ignore everything about that kind of stuff by choice, I'd be shocked if they cared about Youtubers even enough to mock them, or even were aware enough about them to do so. I think this is just supposed to be entertainingly weird/surreal.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Jsor posted:

I'm going to go out on a limb and boldly declare a law of fiction and fandoms:

If there is a story that involves multiple realities, there will exist a prominent fan theory that the reality presented to us as the "real" or top level one is, in fact, also fake. The existence and/or widespread acceptance of this theory will be independent of the evidence for it in the work itself.

Yeah, I hate induction too. :v:

You have a point in the second sentence, fandoms can get kind of silly about theories like that, but it's really a natural thing to at least consider in a story like that and see how well it holds up as compared to the source material. The theory existing isn't a bad thing, it's only when your second sentence comes into play and it persists even after shown as not holding up in the text that it gets annoying.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Cyron posted:

i hope he don't, he also had a funny fan theory in the video where he thinks kirk been trolling everyone for years.

It'd be nice, but no he's been this way since late in Growing Pains. After his conversion, he basically forced the producers to fire the actress playing his fiance just before a wedding episode because she'd been in Playboy and he thought that having her on the show was akin to the show promoting pornography. They had to do a last-minute rewrite as her leaving him at the altar.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, American Sniper is breaking all kinds of box-office records, you can't blame performance that good on "well it's January".

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

dijon du jour posted:

Not to start a huge derail but what the hell happened with WWE the other night? I keep hearing people refer to it in grave tones on Twitter and elsewhere but I can't figure out what exactly happened. :confused:

There was a great summary of the whole situation on MightyGodKing the other day.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

StealthArcher posted:

:stare:

I take it this won't have been a first, or is it just a logical extrapolation of their bias to Doug as per usual. Either way can't say I disagree.

No, it sounds like she meant the opposite of bias towards Doug that they ended up screwing up. They tried to rig it so Doug would lose, but they mixed something up and Doug got the easy stuff by mistake.

Still hilariously incompetent, but at least not knowingly horrible to the fans they brought in as contestants.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Cyron posted:

oh like how people hear called me sexist for just insulting one person

It was because of how precisely you chose to insult her, not the fact that you did.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

DStecks posted:

I felt V for Vendetta was about as faithful as you'd want a V for Vendetta movie to be. I didn't love the comic, or the movie, but I fully enjoyed both of them and didn't think much was lost in translation. I still can't believe people got pissed that the then-contemporary takedown of Thatcher got updated to a then-contemporary takedown of Bush for an American film. Like oh no, they didn't maintain the specific political undertones that most people watching the movie would have 0 context for, the butchery!

I've honestly never heard that criticism for V for Vendetta; the main criticism I've always heard is that the original comic painted V with a more questionably-moral brush, while he's more blatantly positioned as the protagonist in the movie.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Max Wilco posted:

I don't know if this technically internet critic related, but whatever happened to the Current Releases column here on Something Awful? It just stopped updating back in October 2014.

It looks like they decided to leave because they didn't really fit with SA? I'm not sure, really; it sounds like there might've been something else going on there? I know they were getting a lot of criticism on the forums for the ridiculousness of some of their reviews.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Jack Gladney posted:

Also most of the people who make video games seem like big reactionary babies deeply in love with escapist fantasy, which is why they apparently argue so much about whether video games are art or not.

Who is this majority of developers that argue so much about whether or not videogames are art? I legitimately have no clue why you would think that most game developers do this, when I've barely ever heard of any developers getting involved in it.

Also you seem to be implying that if something is escapist then it's a lesser example of art? You're not going back to the ridiculous high art/low art distinction, are you?

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Testekill posted:

Counter point, a lot of people on poo poo like tumblr reacted to the whole act of true love stuff between the sisters and instantly clicked 'oh my god, they're loving each other' so I don't trust their ability to understand themes or relationships.

How does that say anything about if it's a valid reading or not?

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Gianthogweed posted:

Didn't Spoony start off doing primarily text reviews before he went to video? He's been around for a long time, I know.

Yeah, not even online; he was the movie reviewer in the Knights of the Dinner Table comic for a while, before he got cut due to budget issues. That's why he started up his site.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer
I know that more than once, a company's been caught taking down negative reviews of their works through Content ID claims while leaving up positive reviews.

Getting off content ID, there's also how you can permanently get someone banned from Adsense by putting a clickbot on their ads if they aren't big enough to get Google bad press; more than a few LPers have gotten hit by that, though at least a couple of them had Google suddenly reverse the decision after they put out an article on the topic on one of the bigger gaming news sites.

There's also been leaks from former employees that they'll look for excuses to ban people from Adsense in the week before payment's due if Google thinks they're earning too much money, again unless they're someone that can give Google bad press over it; certain accounts for more significant users are internally flagged as "never touch their adsense, no matter what happens", while others are internally flagged as "look for any excuse whatsoever to kick them off because we're paying them too much".

Edit: Found one of the leaks I was talking about; Google denies the whole thing, of course, but a lot of bigger Adsense users have backed up the claims. And I'm pretty sure there's been at least one more leak about it since then.

Idran fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Mar 17, 2015

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

dijon du jour posted:

In favor of "complainants" is the important word here. Not "copyright holders", and there have indeed been problems with people getting their own original work on YouTube claimed by a third party and being kinda stuck because when disputing there's no option for "Actually I own this content" or even "The complainant doesn't own the content they're claiming" which has created a system that accommodates copyright trolls who claim content on random things and bank on the people they target being too scared of copyright strikes to contest, using that to steal ad revenue from people.

Oh, that's right, I entirely forgot to mention this aspect of things. I remember a few times when people would be hit on content ID for their own creations by automated processes; I think the creator of VVVVVV got hit over his own game trailer once? And I remember a couple years back some Russian company hitting every video that had anything to do with music from the Persona series because they had something with a similar name, and a good number of those leading to actual video takedowns.

And it's worth emphasizing what dijon du jour said there: if you try to challenge a content ID match, "this person doesn't actually own the rights" isn't an option for the reason you're challenging it.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Tracula posted:

So we're all pretty sure Doug likes trains, right?

Speaking of running jokes into the ground.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer
Also flash players are already being phased out in favor of HTML5 players, for what it's worth. Seems to help some speedwise, at least, though maybe that's just me.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

e X posted:

Having never even heart of the guy before this, yes, this one video makes it that abundantly clear. The background info on that documentary is somewhat interesting, but at the same time, he himself also doesn't seem to have much of clue about the things he comments on, making this video kind of part of the trainwreck.

If you want more information about him. Among other things, he joined FreeThoughtBlogs because of his anti-theism videos on Youtube (he was I think the most popular atheist blogger on Youtube at the time) and was fired within a month because he immediately started posting his anti-feminism screeds there.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Tracula posted:

Article not found. Got an archive link for it or something? I know TB can be a bit of a tosser but judging my the url those sound like some pretty big allegations.

http://web.archive.org/web/20150822...c-remarks-34509

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

e X posted:

It's Lso important to keep in mind that YouTube is probably as draconian with their content-ID to prevent a massive lawsuit that would basically force them to pre-approve any video that is uploaded, essentially destroying YouTube as it is now.

As far as I understand, all they need to qualify as a "safe harbor" under the DMCA and be immune from direct litigation about copyright-violating hosted content is to have some system to take down content after a formally valid takedown notice from a copyright provider. Working proactively is entirely their own choice.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

DStecks posted:

This sounds extremely dubious, since I'm sure if such a DMCA provision existed then Megaupload would still be around.

Here we go, 17 USC § 512(b): https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

echopapa posted:

That’s for cached content. YouTube is governed by 17 USC § 512(c), and they developed Content ID to protect them from claims that they are “aware of facts or circumstances from which infringing activity is present” in violation of 17 USC § 512(c)(1)(A)(ii), and to protect them from claims that they are “receiv[ing] a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity” in violation of 17 USC § 512(c)(1)(B).

Aha, all right; thanks for the correction!

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Junior Jr. posted:

Female video game characters, whether they're "damsels in distress" or "strong, independent women", are merely works of fiction, and the fact that certain people take this seriously is a bit demoralising. You can say what you want about the portrayal of certain video game characters, but it should be taken with a grain of salt instead of going all out on them.

Do you also hold this position for all other forms of fiction?

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Junior Jr. posted:

If it's a film series like Back To The Future or a comic book superhero like Batman, I'll express why I love those types of fiction, BTTF because I enjoy time travel stories even if they are cliché, and Batman because the character and the stories always appeared more dark and mysterious, which I feel is a nice contrast compared to more upbeat and quirky superhero stories and characters like the ones from the Marvel universe.

Then there are certain things that I hate like Terminator 3, because as someone who's been following the Terminator franchise, it spoils all the fundamental events that happened in Terminator 2, even though I don't want to sound as it personally meant something for me, I still feel pissed off that T3 ruined what seemed like a great continuity ending to the franchise by bringing it back with an explanation that "it's inevitable" and the story never truly ends (in fact it's now gone in a completely new direction, case in point Genisys).

Once again. I know they're all works of fiction, and anyone can rewrite and change them depending on how they feel about them and what sounds good or not, but there are certain changes out there that I find disappointing.

What do you think about Jack Gladney's post that you may have missed?

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Mraagvpeine posted:

Out of curiosity, was there news of a Quantum Leap revival?

A couple times, but neither seems to have gone anywhere.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Infamous Sphere posted:

I'm not sure when it was exactly that he dropped his "premise" - i.e. talking about "nostalgia"/stuff from the past. It just seems like he's reviewing just about anything now, which seems a bit pointless.

Wasn't it when he relaunched NC? He explicitly dropped the premise during the return video after Demo Reel, I thought.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
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Tae posted:

Every part about the website is horrible except for 1-2 threads a sub-forum, apparently this is news?

SAL is pretty universally good.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
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Alacron posted:

There's no such thing as a "good" internet community, just ones that you can tolerate long enough to have a conversation in.

No I was being serious. What'd be intolerable about SAL?

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Terrible Opinions posted:

Not really at all. As an insult it's always been about shaming people for becoming obsessive beyond social norms in one subject or another. Nearly identical to this thread's most common mantra "nerds are terrible".

Then just say "nerd".

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
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The Vosgian Beast posted:

Phelous also cannot reincarnate, and Todd has a visible face during at least part of his life.

I think Tracula is saying that at least Mike isn't actually awful the way some other internet critics are awful and put up a front of "BUT IT'S JUST A CHARACTER". That the negative qualities of Plinkett legitimately are just an aspect of the character rather than actually an aspect of Mike.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BUTT posted:

So uh... is the "Nostalgia" part of "Nostalgia Critic" a total artifact now?

Yeah, he explicitly dropped that "rule" for his review targets after he ended Demo Reel and relaunched NC.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

watho posted:

I really love how upset gamers get when people with just a little bit of experience with games talk about games.

It's not dumb to think maybe someone should know about <x> in order to be able to make a review of <x> beyond "it is good" or "it is bad". Unless you also think Doug's movie reviews are just fine?

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

I think he thought Normalboots is part of Maker, who Disney owns now. It's a separate studio though; Disney doesn't have anything to do with JonTron or Normalboots as far as I know.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Ghostpilot posted:

I hadn't heard of Fear Street, but Goosebumps was huge, huge, huge. They were about the only books I could get my nephew to read.

Fear Street was Stine's older-skewing series, pointed more towards early teenage years.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Terrible Opinions posted:

Though honestly representation in say Assassin's Creed or Battlefield is kind of a valueless endeavor, because like all other massively sequalized "AAA" game out there it's a bad series. Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, the Arkam games, etc are and will remain terrible so long as they're sequalized. Representation in the original few games that kicked off each series could have been worthwhile, but changing anything about the modern entries is about as meaningful as Halloween 8 having a black character as one of the survivors.

Why should only things of high quality try for representation?

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer
It's the difference between making something you legitimately think is good and making something knowing from the start that it's bad. They're saying they like To Boldly Flee the same way they might like, say, The Room; that the creator was trying for something, even if their attempt totally failed. While with something like Sharknado the creators never had any illusions that it was anything but a joke and it shows in the result.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Arcsquad12 posted:

No, it really isn't. The terribad book Revan is KOTOR 3, and it loving sucks because you don't hire video game scriptwriters to write loving novels. The Jedi Exile's true name is Meetra Surik, and Revan has a kid named Vaner.

The Vaner thing is silly, but "Meetra Surik" doesn't sound any worse than the goofy names in every other Star Wars thing.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, what was the twist in Signs? A twist has to be "you think that A is true, but actually it's B". It's not just "here is a surprise in the plot that you didn't see coming", it has to actually subvert your interpretation to be a twist.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

OldTennisCourt posted:

I feel you can safely argue that all six of those movies have a twist ending. His other films not so much.

He isn't ALL twist endings, but he's rightfully known mostly for them because his biggest movies are all twist based

Again, what's the twist ending in Signs? "The aliens can be killed by water" isn't a twist; it's a bad reveal that came out of nowhere, but they never led you to specifically believe the opposite. "This random line his wife told him before she died ends up being important" isn't a twist either, that's just clumsy foreshadowing/mysticism.

A twist ending has to be something along the lines of the whole Twilight Zone/Outer Limits cliche of "you thought these were aliens, but actually they're humans". Or something like "you thought this person was a good guy, but actually he's a bad guy". There needs to be an establishment of a false belief in the audience for something to be a twist, it's not just any plot reveal that's pulled out of nowhere.

Idran fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jan 11, 2016

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Idran
Jan 13, 2005
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Who cares about the fact that "video game" has the word "game" in it. "Movie" doesn't make any sense as a term either from that perspective now that there's plenty of media that involve moving images. A "film" almost never involves the material anymore unless you're Tarantino. "Comics" aren't required to be funny. "Books" don't have to be written on beechwood. Some kind of experimental camera work using an infrared or UV camera could still be called a "photograph".

Conflating etymology with meaning is dumb.

Idran fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jan 20, 2016

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