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Jealous Cow posted:"luxury watch" and "materials cost" are pretty much unrelated. I think people are assuming Apple will model their pricing after stuff like this. Yeah the real answer is "what the market will bear" and all we have to go on are the gold watches that already exist. Getting sucked into the materials cost and assuming that's all there is seems foolish. You still have the cost of development, rejiggering the stores however they want, and presumably some ongoing labor for the high rollers too. Edit: plus I don't think the sort of market typically interested in gold watches usually cares if it's 5-10k. If those numbers make your eyes roll then the whole product category of gold watches isn't meant for you.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 16:49 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 20:33 |
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Rabble posted:Especially when the Air is more powerful and has more ports. The air screen isn't IPS or retina though.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 19:00 |
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Rabble posted:I understand that other people have other needs but IMO a macbook should be more focused on processing power and useability (ports). The new MacBook is more like what the Air was when it was first announced rather than the middle child between an Air and a Pro. That's pretty much exactly what the 13 MBP is good at then, which makes it good those aren't going away yet!
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 19:06 |
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Endless Mike posted:You people post like you've never used your phone for a boarding pass. TSA doesn't give a poo poo. They're the people that never actually go anywhere.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 19:23 |
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Ziploc posted:Wait poo poo. Why is there a new ATV? I bought my sister the previous gen for Christmas. There isn't, it's just cheaper now $69.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 19:38 |
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The Devil Tesla posted:Why are you guys still talking about watches when their laptop stuff is honestly like loving shocking. They apparently believe so much in the new, non-clicky, Force Touch trackpad that they didn't just put it in the new macbook but in the retina Macbook Pros as well. I'm really curious about how it feels if it's not just good for a thin laptop, but apparently better than what already was the best trackpad in any laptop. Really loving skeptical but there are some new features in the trackpad (like vibrating when you snap something into place) that I guess they wanted all their retina laptops to do. It looks like the butterfly switches aren't making it over to the pros however, which makes me less excited about how those feel. It's pretty clear the MBP/MBA for this generation is just the broadwell bump. Minimal effort, same design but better CPUs. Swapping out the keyboard for the new stuff is probably more work than they wanted to do. You can probably expect to see the new keyboard across the line within a year or 2 at most.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 22:00 |
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Bottom Liner posted:It can't be used without the phone for fitness tracking that requires GPS, etc. It says so on the site; If you're not overly concerned with GPS tracking, it should work just fine without a phone. It's been said that you can load up music on it and then go for a run without the phone.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2015 17:23 |
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Rabble posted:Was talking with the Apple guy in the store the other day and he reiterated the fact that the Apple Watch Edition is only going to be sold in "high profile" stores or whatever. I still think a 10-17k smartwatch is dumb and it matches up with their decision to change the MacBook into an utraportable while leaving the Air alone. Nobody gives a poo poo about the $10k watch. The edition could crash and burn and it would have no bearing at all on the rest of the platform.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2015 21:41 |
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I kind of hate to bring up the watch edition talk again, but ben thompson (tech blogger/analyst guy) is bullish on the watch and doesn't think the edition pricing is outlandish. https://twitter.com/monkbent/status/576174418012995584 quote:The reasons "Switzerland is f***ed" is because Apple just undercut the $5,000 stainless steel part of the market by 90%. (scroll up his replies to see the full thread) His main points are basically: -it's ok if the apple watch doesn't last forever -sometimes wealthy people just want jewelry/status symbols -if you don't understand why a rich person might want it, it's not really your place to say the product shouldn't exist
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2015 18:17 |
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Yeah I think part of his point was that the real action is in the mid-tier and that's where you might see some sales shifting around from the apple watch. I agree with some of the points being made here too; if you believe there are some people with grossly more money than sense then they're not limited by an either/or when it comes to gold watches. Edit: it's fun to debate but really it doesn't matter until April. Until then I'm curious what reviews will say and then how normal people end up reacting; I suspect many of us are not the target market anyhow for smart watches.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2015 20:57 |
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Rastor posted:I have to say, I'm coming around to the theory that the Apple Watch was designed for China. If you want a culture that loves showing off materialism, modern China is a pretty good bet.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2015 07:27 |
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I've spent $200 on jawbone devices that I'm ultimately meh on. I liked the features and the idea of fitness tracking, but the jawbone's not that great. $349 on a device I'll actually use seems reasonable to me. The sport watch fitness stuff appeals to me, but I'm not especially bothered at the prospect of leaving the phone and losing GPS.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2015 17:09 |
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eltoozero posted:Wait, is there a bluetooth more awesome than the ERA? Oh I only have the up24. The first up was just the worst, I don't think I've ever had a consumer product break on me more than the UP. The up24 isn't much better - it broke on me once too. Ultimately I just stopped wearing it because using the app to get any information out of it was just too clunky. Having a screen on device is more useful than I expected, plus I found it lacking compared to say Fitbit's.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2015 17:32 |
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RVProfootballer posted:I liked the part where they started working on it just because, and trusted they'd find reasons why it would be useful to anyone during the process. Also the part where they thought making presses of different pressures do different things, like hiding app-specific idiosyncratic settings behind an undiscoverable gesture like "press harder." It's like the old Android menu button but worse; try pressing on every screen to see what settings are hiding there, no not a normal press, a HARD press! Also that the font is blocky with rounded edges ~just like the watch~ lol. I guarantee you a lot of the first round of apps will end up being like this though.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2015 17:45 |
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MyFaceBeHi posted:Apple EyePhone: What Could Be More Retina Than YOUR Retina! Pretty sure I saw a futurama about that.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2015 18:02 |
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Super Dude posted:Unfortunately their crazy profit margins have hampered their ability to deliver the latest technology has to offer. There was some pretty crazy battery technology at CES (organic batteries, 2,000 mAh recharge in 3 minutes!), but it would eat up so much money. I understand that they have shareholders to answer to, but so much more could be done if they cut those margins. There's also the question of timing. Asking for something that was just shown at CES to be manufactured at apple-scale in April is…probably impossible. edit: even if you were talking about poo poo from CES 2014, considering the level of vaporware for the really neat stuff it's probably the same problem.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 17:11 |
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Even buying a watch at Costco requires an employee hover with you.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 22:03 |
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I <3 you star war sex parrot. edit: I am also curious what watch nerds think of it, but it doesn't seem like they got review units so April 24 it is.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 04:43 |
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Dirk Pitt posted:Fire Angela Ahrendts Please tell me this is macrumors.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2015 01:45 |
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DJCobol posted:Not so accurate for weightlifting. I would spike to 140ish during squats, but 30 seconds into cool down between sets it would show as 70-80 bpm. Some of it may have been caused by the watch slipping down my wrist a little bit, so next time I'm going to move it up higher and snug it up a little more and see how it does. Yeah make sure it's pretty snug for a good read. The whole thing's based on LEDs so I imagine it won't work super well if there's an air gap.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2015 00:47 |
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Macrumors is saying both black models are sticking to their original dates, so that's a bummer
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2015 19:11 |
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fordan posted:Mine was a "black model." 42mm Space Gray Apple Watch Sport with Black Sport Band. Yeah I'm being improper with the names; I'm figuring when I say "black sport" everyone knows that really means space grey or "black" that it also includes the SS. Either way I'm preparing to wait out the full delay
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2015 19:30 |
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:So I don't know anything about technology, but wouldn't a smaller watch cost more than a big watch due to the increased difficulties in producing it? I understand selling the bigger watch for more since obviously that is what most people will be wanting to buy, but all things being equal and capitalism aside, should the smaller watch cost more than the larger one? Presumably the screen and battery might cost more for the 42mm, but yeah the manufacturing cost does seem like it'd be higher on a 38.
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# ¿ May 1, 2015 18:29 |
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RVProfootballer posted:Why? Is the 42 not just the same guts as the 38 with a slightly bigger casing, battery, and display? Smaller stuff requiring more effort to jam into the small space, more time for the workers to do it, etc? I am obviously not a manufacturing person at all so I'm just spitballing here. It's possible Chinese factories are so good at this stuff regardless.
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# ¿ May 1, 2015 18:54 |
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io_burn posted:If you want truly objective reporting on Apple look no further than http://daringfireball.net I know you're trolling but I think he's actually better the people give him credit for. I consider him a partisan that's not afraid to say when something is bad. When he goes deep into being a fan boy you get weird things like that middle school story in his apple watch review though.
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# ¿ May 5, 2015 18:23 |
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weese36 posted:I returned mine after being frustrated with how slow it was and how inconsistent the wrist tilt activation was. The recent update was aimed at improving those two things. How are people finding it? Are you trying to hide the apps or just uninstall them? You can uninstall, but there's nothing like folders and definitely no hiding.
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# ¿ May 22, 2015 17:01 |
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eltoozero posted:You tried the leather classic buckle? Really? I tried the classic buckle and the leather felt kinda cheapish to me. You could've told me it was pleather and I would've believed you.
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# ¿ May 28, 2015 21:09 |
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benisntfunny posted:Point is... They release a public beta with no supported method to go back. It's no different than the watch in support. There just isn't an unsupported method for the watch. I think OS X has a pretty well supported method of going back, but yeah iOS is generally meant to only go forward.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 17:11 |
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coldplay chiptunes posted:Their numbers are estimations based on their data applied to a larger subset. Yeah but the 90% number was reported without the context that they have no visibility into retail. They even acknowledge that, but you know tech journalism.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 03:10 |
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MarcusSA posted:Oh good god why did I do that? The guy that writes the term paper length screeds is just amazing. It's so long that I think he genuinely believes all of it. I can't imagine a troll being that dedicated.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2015 17:00 |
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Endless Mike posted:Does anyone have a black Sport Watch? How is the finish holding up? Holds up pretty well, even better if you're not a klutz like me and accidentally hit it against walls. I have a few small dimples on the case from that and one tiny scratch on the glass.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 03:45 |
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pipebomb posted:Pedantphiles I'm kind of boggled that you bought something like a dozen watch bands. I get that part of the point is bands are easy to swap out but you really should not have expected to come out anywhere near whole on that many used watch bands.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 04:21 |
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TheJoker138 posted:I bought one watch band because I didn't like the sports band and the one I bought is nice. I mean that's fine. I don't mean to kick a man while he's down but buying 11 is a *lot* of ecosystem buy in, and my expectation is most people will be "ew gross used watch band" if you try to resell it later.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 09:26 |
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robodex posted:Against my better judgement I picked one of these up a few weeks ago when my Pebble broke for the 3rd time. Was able to get it relatively cheap due to open box special + haggling with them at Best Buy. Make sure you're wearing it slightly snug for a better reading. I've checked while hooked up to an actual medical HRM and it's been very close. When it's wrong though (e.g. bad fit while I'm running or something) it's really wrong, like 49bpm or something when it should probably be 120ish.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2016 03:14 |
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Use the battery widget in iOS today.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 21:06 |
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If you're stressing out about the battery level but you're charging it every day and not running a marathon in workout mode, I can promise you that there are better things to worry about. For everyone else one of the numerous other solutions or simply unlocking it will suffice.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 01:48 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 20:33 |
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Endless Mike posted:Oh, okay, I get it now. This is neither an improvement or crippling since before, trying to browse my library would just go to a long spinner, and when finally loaded, was so slow as to be useless, which is why I never used the Music app on my Watch. Now there's just not much to browse. I legitimately have never played music on my phone via my watch because of that. Plus navigating a very large library on that small screen is not especially more convenient than just grabbing my phone, since all the previous watches needed the phone anyway. I'm guessing the full library view exists on the series 3, but it wouldn't surprise me if the intent is to really use siri anyway because of the tiny screen problem.
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