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People mashing the up + down buttons when waiting for an elevator, just so that they can get on it going the wrong direction. And then furiously mash the close doors button as people going in the correct direction go off. Which will of course slow things down even more, because people sometimes get confused and step off the elevator because it say, stopped at the 8th instead of 9th floor. Because the person on the 8th floor could not wait for the elevator to go to the 9th, then start going down again. But hey, just like with busses/trams/subway cars, the most efficient way to travel is to ram yourself onto it as fast as possible, with no regard for letting others off first.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2017 14:26 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 08:14 |
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"This product I bought was terrible, didn't work, but delivery was quick and [storename] were helpful with returning it: 3 stars." You're reviewing the product, not the store. Don't give the lovely product that doesn't work 3 stars because the store that sold it did their job.
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# ¿ May 27, 2018 16:14 |
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Desktop programs that don't save login info, nor have the option to save password. Gee sure, I'd love to copy over my 30 digit randomly generated password each time the pc restarts. While this is only a few seconds a day, it doesn't change the fact that it's so frustrating when the majority of desktop programs will happily keep you logged in for months at a time without issue.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2018 09:03 |
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Friday: Company I rent from: Oh heyyyy yeaaahh, there are going to come some carptenters into your flat sometime between 9-18, mon/tue/wed. I can't be more specific than that. Ah, a triple whammy of Company giving a heads up at the last possible time they can. People needing access to my flat for various random reasons and repairs, instead of fixing these kinds of things all at once. (This time it's to check if the windows are loose, I cannot imagine they are. ) And incredibly vague times for when they'll be here. It's not as bad as the student dorm I used to live in, where it would happen every couple of weeks like clockwork, but it's still incredibly tedious. e: actually, a quadrouple-whammy. Because they also sent the email as CC instead of BCC. Thanks for giving my personal email away to a fuckload of randoms. Really appreciate it. SubNat has a new favorite as of 13:20 on Jun 18, 2018 |
# ¿ Jun 18, 2018 13:16 |
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loving websites and storefronts where you can't right click or middle-mouse-button click to open new tabs. (And especially if it's inconsistent, and you can do it some places and not others. )
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2018 19:58 |
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People who smoke out their windows. It's always fun to have that stench just seep into my apartment through the windows. Also the smokers in my building have caused 2 actual fires since I moved in. So gently caress them extremely much. ( Chucking lit cigs into the underground vents for windows and stuff. Not sure what the term for them are. (Y'know, when windows are underground? Window Wells?))
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2018 21:34 |
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"Hey can I get X?" "Sorry, don't have time/have to get permission to send out that kind of documentation, I'll check it out. You'll hear from me." 'You'll hear from me.' No I loving won't, every single time people say that it's just a 'don't bother me', and they'll just forget or not do it, and then I have to follow up. Not to mention that means the project I'm working on gets delayed because it's missing important poo poo. Ughhhhhhh Related to this is the wonderful: Hey! Could you do this project? It has to be done asap, but we haven't gotten any of the files required because we just remembered this right now. Also we've known that it had to be done for months, and instead of asking you to do this during the extremely calm month of august, we're asking you the moment other work is ramping up.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2018 12:39 |
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Not Peeve: Chrome(And possibly other browsers?) allowing sites to push desktop notifications, provided they get permission. Peeve: Billions of sites rushing to push for trying to get users to accept desktop notifications. Peeve: Once that didn't work, many of the same sites will start pushing popups in the middle/top middle of the screen trying to get you to give them desktop notification permission. Could you just... not? Atleast have the loving decency to only show it after I've been on the site for a while, or browse to other pages. HEY IT'S SO NICE YOU'RE READING THIS ARTICLE SOMEONE LINKED.I KNOW YOU'VE ONLY BEEN ON OUR PAGE FOR 2 SECONDS, BUT PLEASE OH PLEASE LET US PUSH EVERY SINGLE NEWS STORY WE HAVE STRAIGHT TO YOUR DESKTOP. OH PRETTY PLEASE. At the very least give me the option to autoblock all those permission requests, and just show an icon on the address bar instead, which I can look for if I genuinely like a site, or would appreciate notifications from it. (Chrome only has an 'ask before sending' toggle, which I assume is the feature giving me the option to allow/deny instead of getting their notifications autoaccepted.)
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2018 19:41 |
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Thin Privilege posted:How the hell are almonds bad for the environment?? Because they're mostly grown in California in the US, and they take massive amounts of water to grow, compared to say oats. The water usage is in huge focus due to the large droughts there. Not to mention the fact that you can get around 1 glass of dairy milk from ~100 liters of water. Meanwhile you need 4.4 liters of water to grow a single almond. If they were grown hydroponically, or in greenhouses in other areas of the country where water is more plentiful, it would be a total non-issue.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2018 11:10 |
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Photoshop stealing focus. Every single time it's started, it keeps stealing focus until it's completely initialised, meaning I can't do anything else while I wait for it to open. It's the only program that works like that. The only program I can't just start up then alt-tab over to something else in the meanwhile. And programs that block interaction while they're doing 1 simple thing. This is a loving constant annoyance in 3D programs, because so often you'll be using some feature or another than only runs on 1 cpu thread, but hardlocks the program until it's done. Seriously, I know parts of you are as old as me, but I'd really like it if I were allowed to do more than 1 thing at a time.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2018 21:53 |
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Oh hey! Wonderful, you made a full visualization of an entire building for us! Wonderful! And we can walk around in it and everything! Now, none of us are familiar with the program you made it in, but could you please send us the original project/source files, so that we can mess around and contact you ceaselessly about support for it? I can just feel that this'll result in a lot of emails and annoying support about: 'Oh wow it looks like it in fact wasn't trivially easy to do things! And that the work you did is pretty specialised and it takes a long time to learn how to use a game engine! Who could have imagined this! ' I suppose the pet peeve is people just assuming that anything computer/game related is pretty simple, because 'it's basically just like playing a game, isn't it?' No, no it isn't.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2018 10:23 |
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Chrome: HEY DO YOU WANT TO TRANSLATE THIS PAGE????? I'd prefer it if you just used the site's language select doodad to flip it over to english, honestly.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2018 19:52 |
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Programs that use file explorers where you can't input the destination folder into the address bar. Great, thanks. It'll be fun to navigate from my computer, through the files manually, yet again, because I can't just c/p it in. And at the same time they'll usually not remember the previous location, or allow you to save shortcuts. e: bonus pet peeve: Children screaming around in the streets, and then their terrible parents screaming at them louder to make them quiet. (Gee I wonder where they get it from.) SubNat has a new favorite as of 15:51 on Oct 20, 2018 |
# ¿ Oct 20, 2018 15:18 |
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Yeah, that's my understanding as well. So the pet peeve should really be lovely companies like Amazon trying to outsource as much actual customer support / info handling as possible to their customers, instead of employees.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2018 17:28 |
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Riatsala posted:I would hate to make video games for a living. "gamers" have to be the most capricious, fragile, moronic group of people on planet earth. Hear, Hear. I pivoted from 'hey i wanna do gamedev.' to 'hey i wanna make realtime visualizations/VR' partly because of that. The other part was because I took a 1 year course in gamedev during my gap year and it hit me very hard what kind of people I'd be spending the next few decades with, if I decided to go towards games. As for peeves: Technical support forums for complex programs, like Unreal. The forums are nigh unusable, and unless you stumble over it by accident it's impossible to find discussion about anything. Because 99% of the threads are people asking for support with 1 small issue they have, instead of googling. Just rows after rows after rows of 0-2 reply threads with a few views each.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2018 15:11 |
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Digital store pricing. I live in Norway, so prices are in NOK. A ~60usd AAA game on consoles will be around 600kr. I was curious about considering picking up Red Dead Redemption 2. Buying it digitally on the ps4 is apparently 700kr. (85usd) (Even though for example Spider-Man was 600kr.) Meanwhile, the physical version can be gotten in stores for 490kr. That's a 210kr difference. ( 25usd. ) Why is it that the least valuable version of the game, where they get the largest margins, is also the most expensive version of the game? If I got it physically, I would be able to sell it on whenever I was done with it. I'm so used to PC gaming, where you can easily and regularly get games 10-20% off around release, with deeper discounts quickly hitting after launch.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2018 13:13 |
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:IIRC it's to keep physical retailers happy so they don't stop selling physical copies of console games like they did with PC games. Yeah, but that doesn't explain why some games are the same price between digital and physical, while others, like RDR2 in this case is significantly more expensive compared to MSRP. The primary thing I'm annoyed is that the msrp for physical stores, for this -specific- title is 600 vs 700 for digital. If they were 1:1 I would be less annoyed, since for most games there will only be a small difference. (Like with Spider-Man, which is 530vs600.) (I think FFXV was more too, but I can't rememeber. But the difference wasn't as major.) A couple other playstation titles also give bonus DLC stuff for the standard digital version to make up for the price difference, without lowering the price. (Detroit:Become Human gave you Heavy Rain alongside the purchase, for example. ) With Rockstar doing this you have to pay a significant premium just to get the least valuable version of the game. And due to this being pretty game specific, it's not physical retailers' fault. But eh, just another reason not to get the game I suppose.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2018 14:35 |
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This is probably a regular one, but why are so many podcasts, ones that have been running for years, have such lovely balancing? There are just so many sins that constantly get repeated. Like: Terrible balancing between speakers, where 1 person is too low while another is too loud. In some cases, background music that's so loud it muddles what people are saying. And of course, musical zingers that are just way too loud. Why is it so incredibly hard to just normalize audio tracks, and compress them to a regular volume? Also I really wish podcast apps could scan for volume and adjust for it when you go from a quiet to a loud podcast. (Musicbee and probably other media players can scan media for loudness, and account for it. I wish Pocket casts could too.)
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 03:32 |
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I'm trying to listen to an Astronomy Cast right now, but I swear it sounds like they are walking around the room while talking, to the point where a single sentence can go from being too loud, to too hard to hear. It's inane.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 03:47 |
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Tiggum posted:See, there's your issue. There's no such thing. You've just used a more "sciencey" sounding word for a soul. No, I think you just misunderstood them. What's meant by it is that your specific consciousness just stops, sure there's a perfect, identical, copy over there that starts there, but that's someone else. It's like if your pc broke, and you copied over the harddrives to a new pc. It'll keep running along as if nothing had happened, but it wouldn't change the fact that the original pc no longer works.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2018 15:01 |
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Peeve: Blatant price-fixing on products I'm considering buying. (Sony WH-1000XM3, for anyone curious. ) I've been considering picking up a pair of Sony noise-cancelling headphones for work, since my office can be pretty noisy at times. They came out with a new version this summer of the headphones, and they've been getting great reviews. However, the 9 stores that sell it for the cheapest, sell it for the exact same price. Which basically never happens. And to top it off, the price has been the exact same since the end of August. (Usually you'll have some of them undercutting each other by a bit, to get the top spot on comparison sites etc. ) Meanwhile, for a competitor's product, the graph looks a lot more natural, with the lowest price only being static for 2-3 weeks at the most, and even then only at 1-2 stores. Not 9 of them. I'll probably just go for the previous generation headphones that are like 60% of the price. But it's still super annoying to see something have an artificially inflated/flatlined price like this.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2018 18:59 |
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I had to get a pinterest because some interior designers I work with have collections there. Peeve: OH HEY. HOW NICE OF YOU TO MAKE AN ACCOUNT. Now, of course you made an account here to browse our site, so we demand that you set up interests so that we can server you content. 'Can't I skip this, I'm only going to use this to browse things my colleagues have set up. NO. SET UP YOUR INTERESTS. Doubly so when you can just remove them again later, though some sites like tumblr force content you don't care about down your throat unless you take steps to block them all. (Secondary peeve, how pinterest has more or less destroyed the relevancy of results on google's image search, because the results are pinned posts on pinterest instead of the source. )
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2018 20:28 |
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MightyJoe36 posted:I never give the clerks any crap about it because they're only doing what they're told, but this pisses me off to no end. Companies bragging about how much they donate to charity when they're asking their customers to do it for them. A company my brother used to work at gave out christmas presents to their employees in the form of donations to charities, that's not too bad. The bad part is that they obviously just did it so that the CEO could mug infront of some news cameras every year about WOW WE DONATED SO MUCH!!! Here have a giant novelty check, and make sure to take the pictures from my best side!
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2018 20:47 |
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Peeve: Half of my family members the last week have been cornering me with 'well, if you happened to have a boyfriend you're very welcome to bring him along to visit sometime.' talks. No, I just genuinely don't enjoy spending time with you all, especially not when I'm trapped in the same house as you all for a week, with 0 way to get any peace and quiet for more than a few minutes at a time, and I'll just get constantly interrupted whenever I try to do anything. And because I don't enjoy spending time with you, of course I'm just going to turn down most of your invites, because the occasional visit and stuff is ok, but there's just been too loving much of it lately. (Especially since there have been more meetups and visits the last year than the prior 3 years, so I'm getting kind of loving exhausted of you all.) The fact that I gently caress dudes is secondary and wholly irrelevant. But kudos for thinking that there's just this magical reason that I don't want to spend time with all of you. After all it's impossible that I'm not interested because I don't like you as people, nor how every single thing I do or like that falls outside of your interests is belittled and made fun of. But sure, it has to be the gay thing.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2018 22:06 |
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Automatic updates, and updates that change existing settings. A while back, my phone would get a notification about updates, and then let me install them at me leisure. One of them switched the settings for automatic updates overnight back on. (Without telling me, of course.) Today, for the first time in years, I overslept. Because my loving phone restarted without my consent, and was on the sim login to boot, meaning that it wouldn't even have accepted calls. I wouldn't really care much if it restarted properly and logged in, but it was for all intents and purposes, off.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2019 12:40 |
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yeah I eat rear end posted:It is a series of lectures that lend false credibility to any moron who is willing to get up on stage for 15 minutes and talk about whatever they feel like. Yeah that pretty much sums it up. I think at one point they got held in fairly high regard due to a lot of popular scientists delivering interesting, short/easily digestible talks about a certain topic. I think the last one I saw was a guy pacing around retelling a story about how hilarious it was when he pretended to bite on an email scam. (Which of course seemed blatantly fake.) There have been a couple pretty interesting ones though, like the one where a neuroscientist told a story about when she got a stroke ( or aneurysm? ) and how it completely altered her perception as it was happening. Edit: Neuroanatomist* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU SubNat has a new favorite as of 00:50 on Jan 20, 2019 |
# ¿ Jan 20, 2019 00:45 |
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Iron Crowned posted:Really work? I now have to have 4 different passwords that I change every 60-90 days? It's especially great when you have multiple sets that expire at different rates. At my old job I think I had 3 different ones, 1 of them every 6 weeks and the other 2 every 8. Except you could sometimes go days without needing to log into the third one, meaning that they'd only ever be in sync if you'd been away for a while. It only encourages people writing down passwords. And encourages people to use very simple passwords, usually the exact same one but just with various digits on. Surely investing in a couple fingerprint scanners would pay for itself, compared to the hours of IT support you'll be running just to reset passwords + accounts. Or just 2FA dongles that have to be turned in at the end of shifts, etc.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2019 14:39 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Man’s best friend! A perfect example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgZDUFvk4Y "Oh we've had a lot of animals before, cats, dogs, lizards, so we know how to care for animals. They can live for 25-30 years and we're ready for that kind of commitment." Translation: "We had a bunch of more domestic pets, but they were too boring/didn't give us enough to brag about on social media. However we'll keep these around until they stop scoring us points, which should be a bit longer.But we'll probably still chuck them at a wildlife centre in like a year, tops."
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2019 21:08 |
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DontMockMySmock posted:Sat down briefly at an unused office cubicle at the school where I work. Taped to the abandoned monitor is the root name/password. Which is the same for every single computer in the building. Because the majority of people just view computers as a magic box. Even the ones that have had accounts hijacked or whatever will usually know so little about PCs that they just see it as magical cyberwizards whisking away their account. As opposed to them using a common password, or one datamined from a database breach, etc. It's just so abstract for them, and they don't want to spend any more time or resources than they need understanding it. And then like a case in norway recently; the moment a student does reveal that 'holy poo poo the IT security here sucks and people could easily misuse it', the school will hunker down on trying to punish the people that expose their lax security. Instead of immediately trying to fix it. Hopefully in the future biometrics + multi-factor authentications can zero out a lot of these issues. Not having to trust an old with a password+login but instead something they can just have on their keychain + a pin/fingerprint scan will probably solve a lot of these 'problem between keyboard and chair' security issues.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 01:31 |
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Websites that just throw you out if you refuse their ad/cookie preferences. Especially since they're usually the kind of sites you'll only ever visit once because a recipe or a google result pointed there.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2019 21:45 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Some goons hate David Cummings, but I really like how on the nosleep podcast instead of ads or endless hawking patreon/merch/dtc you just chuck twenty bucks at him twice a year or so and get the podcast. 20 bucks for 25 two hour episodes and seasonal bonus ones is well worth it considering how much time I spend on other podcasts hearing about underwear and mattreses. I wish more podcasts would have the option to get an ad-less feed in exchange for some support, honestly. With all the various patreon-based podcasts you get a private feed you just slap into your podcast listener of choice, and I wish it was more common. Podcasts are usually hosted by larger networks, with them managing distribution + ad insertion, so it's weird that they don't offer this kind of stuff. Surely the revenue would be worth it, any podcast of note is likely going to have a lot of longtime listeners willing to chuck in some cash.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2019 23:28 |
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Didn't they already do that not too long ago? Or are you talking about the site? Also Pocket Casts on my tablet has started streaming incorrect chunks sometimes, so in the middle of a podcast it might suddenly start streaming in audio from other ones. Not sure if it's just grabbing various ones from the same network, or from random other podcasts I've subscribed to, but it's annoying whenever it happens.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2019 17:49 |
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Iron Crowned posted:The app just changed for me sometime between yesterday at about 4:00 pm and 6:00 am this morning loving UGH. Oh yeah, that hits the spot. Move settings into a small icon inside the profile tab, oh yeah terrible design just gets me OFF. Well this is utter trash. And I guess I might start looking for a different player, though losing sync/progress is probably going to suck. e: Or maybe just start using it through the web browser on my tablet instead, maybe. Edgar Allen Ho posted:Who doesnt love it when software updates by itself whenever it wants into new and worse versions (that usually only make a lick of ui sense if you’re using them on a 2022 touchscreen virtual eyepiece) Also when update prompts get more and more agressive. My Shield TV android box used to have a small tab for 'hey there's a new update! Want to update?' and had a prompt whenever the device was turned on with a cold boot. Now it does it every single time it wakes up from sleep.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2019 19:32 |
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Tedious lowballers on selling sites like Craigslist. I've been selling some stuff recently on my local equivalent, and it's so annoying. I price my stuff reasonably, seeing what else is up on the site, and usually undercut them a bit so that mine is the cheapest. And then invariably half of the people that contact me are chucklefucks coming with offers of roughly half that. When I sold my Switch a lot of those same people would also have active listings for selling them, so they were probably just flipping the consoles whenever they found a mark willing to sell them cheap.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2019 12:10 |
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The thing is, I usually get the stuff sold for the price I want after a little while. It's just the first rounds of 'hm yes I can pick this up in 20 minutes also I'll pay 150$ for ur switch, how about it???' people are so tedious. I see the point in doing the haggle route, but I just want to clear these things out so that I can buy other stuff, and if I do a high-but-haggle-down price then the listing is probably just going to stay up for weeks, like the ones I'm undercutting.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2019 12:38 |
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Example: https://twitter.com/niuniente/status/1117873974598426625 Can you guess my peeve? That's right, people posting something of someone else. (Either someone else doing something, or content someone else made, in this case.) It gets a lot of attention because people engage with the content. The person who posted it, who is nothing more than a visibility vector for it on that site goes: 'OH ALL THIS ATTENTION IS FOR ME.' and start plugging their own things, or how you should follow them, or what have you. It's just so trite and tedious and peeve-y, that so many people just default to promoting themselves off of things other people have made. Not even linking to the original post/source. Just straight to self-promoting unrelated thing.
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2019 13:34 |
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Websites that are so utterly determined to sell on your info that they just throw you off if you don't agree to their cookie/privacy policy.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2019 14:02 |
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Combopeeve: People who complain about a thing, but don't want to actually have a solution to it. & " But I'll notice it!!! " when it comes to simplifying a process or product a bit to save time, especially when the quality is going to get smashed a bit the moment it stops being a lossless png anyhow. (Though this can extend to anything, 'oh yeah these things here are like 2px offset too far, but nobody'll notice it in the actual scene' 'But I'll notice it!.' . Or people insisting on making changes so small they're barely noticable in the end product at all. Things just to satisfy themselves, instead of realizing that these small details and changes are only visible in direct, exact comparisons. An infinite amount of tiny changes just for the sake of change, which are then promptly thrown away again are the bane of my workday whenever architects are involved directly, ugh.) In this case, a friend was complaining about how some videos he was making took way too long to render. (And due to the long rendertimes, he had to reduce quality a bit, leaving a bit of noise in the final product.) I suggested rendering at a lower resolution, and using gigapixel to scale it up to finished size (neural net resizer, does a pretty good job, especially for hobby work.), giving a good final image, without the noise(due to being able to run it at higher settings.), at a lower render time, and the difference in quality gets obliterated by video encoding anyhow. I slap together an example, the differences between them are minor, especially since the scene is slightly stylized, and doesn't have much in the way of noisy materials / details. And he just complains about how some of the hair there is a bit blurrier, and that part over there is slightly less clear. And refuses to understand that this is detailing that gets smushed pretty hard by encoding. Of course the slight deviations are visible when you compare 2 full res, high quality pngs on top of eachother. Flipping back and forth to cross-examine every single pixel that's different. That's not the point, the point is by doing this you can render it out, encode the video, and save hours per video, and the people seeing it won't notice the difference. But sure, just keep on griping about how it takes too long to render, and then proceed to do nothing about it, sure, that's not annoying at all. e: Bonus Peeve: When things use USB connectors, but the port is recessed so that only maybe a third of the USB cables you have lying around actually fit without filing/sanding plastic/rubber off them. Or maybe this is more a peeve about how bulky some usb micro b cables can be. SubNat has a new favorite as of 16:06 on May 16, 2019 |
# ¿ May 16, 2019 15:19 |
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Extremely norwegian peeve: We have the letter æøå/ÆØÅ (eh? uh? oh?) in addition to the normal letters in the latin alphabet, this isn't the peeve. The peeve is the hordes of people who, the moment they don't have access to them on a keyboard, instantly slap in phonetic-ish replacements all over the place, making it insanely tedious to read. Jeg går på do, løsner på hølet, og driter så jævlig hardt at det klirrer på kjøkkenet. Suddenly becomes Jeg gaar paa do, loesner på hoelet, og driter saa jaevlig hardt at det klirrer paa kjoekkenet. Æ to ae is fine, but people will loving understand you if you just replace å with a, and ø with o, like in URLs. You don't need to loving 'correct' it by typing in replacements like that. I've had some customer interactions with people who have moved to the states, and thus only have pcs with us keyboards. And my eyes just slide off the loving paragraphs of text because it's so tedious to parse at length. It's a kind of norwegian than only exists when you have olds intersecting with pcs, adding to the already large annoyance of olds interacting with pcs. "Oh you don't need to baby me with this I'll have you know, I was a professor in Computer Science back in the day." "Oh and by the way, now that I have you on the phone at 1 in the morning(~6 hour timezone difference.), how do I unpack this zipped file you sent me?"
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# ¿ May 19, 2019 14:22 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 08:14 |
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Them, and people not technically literate enough to understand that it's possible to change your keyboard language in OS, and not have it match up to what's on the keys. Yeah. For all we know they might be perfectly touch-typing those mutilations of the language, but aren't aware they can change it, and don't care to do even a cursory search about it. Which is a peeve in it's own regard.
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# ¿ May 19, 2019 15:01 |