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Time for a little bit of a Seiyuu Trivia to support Crispin's badass role. Avan's VA is Hiroyuki Yoshino. Known for voicing Alleluah Baptism in Gundam 00 Cosette's VA is Eri Kitamura. She was cast for Queens Blade's Alleyne and Tora Dora's Ami Zeri' VA is Hiroshi Kamiya. He was most well known as Tieria Erde in Gundam 00. Lawerence Kluviert is voiced by the late Takeshi Aono. We all knew him as Roy Cambell from Metal Gear Hubert Brixham is voiced by Ryotaro Okiayu. He was voice cast as Treize from Gundam Wing as well as Andy Waltfield from Gundam Seed Juliana Everhart is voiced by Ryoko Shiraishi. She voiced Anew Returner from Gundam 00, Asuka Kazama from Tekken as well as acted a indie VA for Gunhound Ex As the main heroine.
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Internet Kraken posted:So does Cosette ever become useful or is she just a weight tied to your ankle for the entire game? All of the squadmates have a negative potential until you complete their personal mission. Sadly Cossette and Zeri is campaign based. And Lanseal is more like a more looser version of west point And VC3 also vives us the token Darscen force that refuses to be treated like dogs to offset the abuse they had received in the previous games In an half hearted attempt to go "not all Darscen are scared cowards whos only purpose is target practice"
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To give the tournament arc a good reason to win is because of the graduate reputation. If they decided to enlist in the army. Getting a tourney win can give very good promotion aspects as well as a chance of ennoblement. That said, does West Point have wargames competitions between classes?
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King of Bleh posted:VC1 was pretty lighthearted for a WWII story, but I don't think it was significantly sillier than other "anime goes to war" type franchises like Fire Emblem. The tone was definitely never outright farcical, a goal that this game unfortunately seems to have made a beeline for. So should it be an gritty HBO series? Raita could probably push the envelope if he wanted to. Or we can have it like those gritty police academy series that have thigns like sneaking out to get drunk, high and get out the frustrations of a military academy life as well as truly hardass commanders. gyrobot fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Nick Buntline posted:I suppose, in a certain way, I have to admire the sheer balls and/or critical lack of self-awareness it takes to design absolute territory into the bomb-proof armor, and then put in a caption about how important it was to add extra armor to the shins. The general theory is if it hits the vitals you are dead anywat. At least if shrapnel hits your limbs you are not going to end up crippled in combat.
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BioMe posted:A blast armored soldier dies because a low velocity shrapnel hits the femoral artery? Nothing could have prevented this tragedy. Now put her shins in a box and send her back home. Well with enough ragnaid you can prevent a fuckup aside from critical wounds. Another reason why the Militia isnt allowed to get involved is because Cordelia has to deal with an already hostile nobility who would see them being mobilized to crush a revolt as an heavy handed move and go and join the revolt. She had to placate the nobles to at least grudgingly accept her. gyrobot fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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SSNeoman posted:Whoah, let's not say things we wanna take back later. Though I will admit I'm waiting for when Avan will have some :masterstroke: of a plan and earns everyone's respect. Index did this all the loving time, the protag was incompetent and poo poo on by the world. The suddenly come battle time and he was an extremely calculating and experienced fighter who knew how to effectively void others' powers and cripple them before punching them in the face. Technically he does this through personal missions that you get later. Everyone in Class G has a chip up their shoulder. Completing them eliminate their negative potentials for positive ones. Ani's issue is that while she can sing (Unlike Edy who's voice can be used as psychological warfare), she has next to no stamina. gyrobot fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Alright we got more main VAs so I am going to give out trivia on their seiyuus. Aliasse is voiced by Haruka Tomatsu, voicing Nagi in Kannagi as well as Mileena Vashti from Gundam 00 and Shiho from Zettai Karen Children, she would be known for her role as Asuna from SAO. Clementia is voiced by Mami Koyama, cast as Talia Gladys from Gundam SEED Destiny as well as Karen Joshua from 8th MS team. Lavina is voiced by Satomi Satou, when she debuted, her major breakthrough role was Ritsu from K-On.
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To be fair the weapon also have A suppression on top of Def drop. So its a tradeoff To kill defense heavy units quicker.
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Zyrden posted:So what happens if you lose the match against class C? Is it as game over as losing a real battle is, or can you actually end up not winning the tournament? Game over. A fatal round hits Avan. Remember just because they are using practice rounds doesn't mean it's not fatal. Also seiyuus for the GRA. Baldren is voiced by Hikaru Midorikawa, we all know him as Heero Yuy from Gundam Wing. Audrey is voiced by Ayako Kawasumi, she voiced Saber as well as Reina from Queen's Blade Dirk is voiced by Souichiro Hoshi, most well known at the time for Kira Yamato from Gundam SEED Gilbert is voiced by Banjo Ginga, or more importantly...GIHREN ZABI!
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Tae posted:I would be less annoyed if this wasn't the 2nd classmate quest that involves playing matchmaker. He's still helping Nichol with his love problems, and will be helping 2 more in the future. And Avan is a dense sunnuvabitch himself. Also with Audrey she is the typical Zealot. If Baldren is doing it for glory of Gallia then Audrey is doing this because she sees it as following the will of the Valkyrie. Gallia means little to her compared to Baldren. The extended lore also shows Gilbert hates the Gallian Nobility and wanted an absolute monarchy for Gallia rather than the soft power Cordelia has. With the Empire has an even crueler policy towards Darscen drove him off the deep end As he saw this war not just a war of resources but an active campaign at eliminating Darscen and supposed sympathizers
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You mean the family with the dumb brute of a son, the ambitious idealistic son, and the intelligent plotting daughter? To be fair VC3 was a macross fanfic.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Ha ha, I love those things. I thought MGS3 made the weapon up the first time I saw it in the game. Not too far of a stretch because most of the MGS cast also voiced the NPCs
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David Corbett posted:Hmm. You'd think that if you could fire ragnite death beams and use invincible bullshit ragnite shields, you'd just skip the intermediary and put them on the same tank as the power source. Tanks cant hold ground or capture buildings
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Cake Attack posted:but you see, who would expect that class g of all people could be escorting the archduchess, and not some random chump? Avan is Leons bro. Every other Class has a problem with Darscen and given the chance they could backstab Cordelia and dub it an accident or the rebels are too good.
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Apr 16, 2015 04:10
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Night10194 posted:Alright, see, what Rainer's dealing with? This is the poo poo this game should be about, not all this anime bullshit. They're fighting a civil war. Friend against friend, brother against brother, sister against sister. That poo poo should be coming up all the time, as should the idea that under their (stupid) masks the Rebels are still people, even if they're turboracists fighting for a fundamentally unjust cause. To the revolutionaries, a Darscen queen is effectively a "shoot us all" that is going to come up eventually. They got invaded for reasons and now religious fervor comes into play, if it isn't the empire then it will be revolutionaries, if not revolutionaries then Yggists zealots who would make rebel and empire Atrocities look like an act of war. We are talking about beheadings, burnings, public executions and drat the opinions of anyone who disagrees.
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I still remember Dog Life Dog Style. If Japan doesnt have harsh censorship laws for gaming maybe we would see the envelope pushed. Too bad the OCU damashi is in your face. The only non Japanese OCU guy gets treated like a real rear end in a top hat
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Pureauthor posted:Crap, the rebels have starting equipping their soldiers with Windamium. After the worst gundam grunt of the franchise that somehow managed to suck harder than Leos?
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If Dahau was still around it would have mixed things up. Another revolutionary movement who defends the Darscens as Lanseal also have to shut them down. Zeri would have seen him as the beacon of hope.
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Agean90 posted:It kinda feels like there was like one or two dudes on the writing staff who wanted to do interesting things with it, then got overridden by their higher ups. Would it improve with HBO style drama? You guys would prefer a gritty JRPG with sex, gore and rear end in a top hat protags you want to see die.
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HEY GUYS, PERSONA SOLD LIKE HOTCAKES, THIS SHITS GOIN TO HIGH SCHOOL
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Agean90 posted:Night10194 said it better than I could. I just want characters that have more to them than a quirk. That is a problem when you add a lot of character, you either have a wide cast of characters or you have a limited group of well developed characters. It pretty difficult to flesh out everyone. Still going by your recommendation I would go for the WRPG's approach, aka Avan wanting to go grab some liquor from outside of town to drink away the frustration of the ongoing rebellion. Zeri making effigies of GRA soldiers and executing them one by one, Sophia's maneater personality being more fleshed out beyond "Massage my leg". Helmut decking Zeri after the comment he made about imperial soldiers. And instead of wanting to be an idol, Anisette performs at the local cabaret at the Academy singing dirty cabaret songs for a thankless audience where the watered down wine only serve to make them aggressive drunks.
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Tae posted:They should've probably done the entire tournament arc first, instead of fighting the rebel leaders twice, beating them twice, go through 3 ethnic cleansing, prevent the assassination of the Queen, and introduce artificial and real Valkyrians. The civil war at the moment seems like sporadic attacks on Darscen settlements and the odd botched recon. Since the Darscens are of little concerns to the people, they rarely get reported until the fighting spills to an uncontrollable situation that have Lanseal being called in. The Gassernels also have to contend with Landseal counterattacks (which so far have been repulsed). The other classes are probably the ones attacking Gassernel forces in retaliatory raids but as they mentioned it is a tough nut to crack, not helped by the V2. Plus it means glory for the other classes, let Class G do the glorified grunt work, when Class A takes Gassernel fortress and brings the family to Justice they will be the ones to be remembered as the ones who brought stability back to Gallia
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Night10194 posted:I actually kind of liked the twist with Helmut's mission. He's still a jerk, but at least he's a professional, and he understands why he's in Gallia and the stakes of what's going on. That's a bit more interesting than I expected from VC2. Sadly he probably burnt through the interesting personal missions and now left withe dull ones
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Hey hunters got to prep traps for killing enemies vietcong style. Plus survivalist mentality means she has taught herself to treat injuries.
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A good idea to understanding GRA racism... Picture this... Your people have been a neutral nation who suddenly been invaded by another country woth some hardline bigots. No problem, resource conflicts happen all the time no problem. But they then start escavating your ruins for WMDs to end the war quickly because you are holding on with tooth and claw. However suddenly your head of state reveal she is one of the people responsible for the end of the world by the religion you follow? Sure you repelled the empire but you now got an ursurper faction ruling your people? So who else who want Gallia aside from the Empire? -Darscen fanatics who sees her capture as the establishment of an Darscen state. Eventually recruiting people who saw enough oppression to make non loyal members hang while others will suffer a dozen times more? -A Yggist version of the People Crusades, ragtag Yggists who join together to purge the illegitimate kingdom. Its going to be an brutal slaughter. Not shooting people in rampages but rounding up and commiting horrific atrocities like live burnings, beheadings and impaled corpses. At this point you are utteely convinced either you remove them or they do it for you.
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Well her family despises Darscen. She simply follows her familys train of thought
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Night10194 posted:No, that was a plot point. It's designed to shame them for supposedly burning down the world, which we know is complete made up horseshit. Of course, it doesn't stop some of them from saying "gently caress IT! YOU ACCUSE OF DOING THIS MADE UP CRIME THEN I AM GOING TO DO SAID CRIME IN FRONT OF EVERYONE!"
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They are talking about economics, rebuilding after the war is a dicey issue. On one hand, subsidizing the agricultural sector means North Gallia could produce more food for the army and civilians which will keep the other villages from volunteering to join the GRA for food. Of course Zeri realize this is bull since the nobility will simply skim from the coffers and the people would still starve. If only they focused on the political aspect also like Dog Life and Dog Style, it shows just how hosed up civilian life out of the warzone is like.
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BioMe posted:gyrobot, I have to say I'm starting to love your anti-humor even though I haven't figured out if it's intentional or not Tae makes it look like he is getting his teeth pulled by high school antics. So I try to make more bearable for him even though I would just remind myself this is just a loving game and turn my mind off.
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thetruegentleman posted:What the rebels say they are protecting Gallia from IS the Darcsens; their willingness to destroy everything else to do that is what makes them seem like hypocrites. Also, ordering soldiers to gun people doesn't work on a consistent basis: for example, while the Nazi police battalions (the people tasked with the killings) had initial "success" in rounding up/killing minorities, so many of them deliberately missed, or turned a blind eye to escapees, or found an excuse to avoid their 'duty' that thousands of Jews managed to escape them. Not to say there weren't a fair share of psychos who volunteered for the later hunts, but most soldiers tried to avoid them as best they could. It even went the other way as well: there were cases of both enlisted men *and* officers walking away from shootings they were ordered to commit (generally because they knew the victims, either personally or because they shared a dialect), and suffering nothing from their insubordination. This isn't a professional "soldiers gunning down" action, this is a Pogrom. Spur of the moment style razings that have little thought beyond "kill them all". Also, the occupation of Korea and Armenian genocide can serve as counterexamples of willing people who didn't flinch.
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This potential pretty much put Cosette as a backliner until later on, her potential was all defensive anyway, she is at the moment a strict healer which would be great if we actually have to hold ground and face infinite respawns. weso12 posted:I still think that theses writers aren't *that* bad, it feels like they were two groups and one told to write about the drama of high schoolers and the other told write serious war drama, and they decided to awkwardly clump them together. If the game wrote decided to go all serious war drama dealing with the youth and going into war drama, like this Cossette drama here is actually somewhat competently written if it didn't contrast with the classmate missions whole heartily it could have worked. Heck if it went Advance Wars "war is fun" kind of route, with the cut out characters it be at least tonally consistent and not too cringe worthy. Actually if the game put all the classmate anime drama stuff for the first part of the game, then evolving into a more serious game after that point, with character development focusing on the effects of war particularly with dealing youth having to be soldier, it honestly probably fail the depth it go for but we could give it credit for a good vision at least. High school drama is fine if it is the debauchery type antics, underage drinking! Civies vs military brats! And Generation Kill style antics! gyrobot fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Apr 26, 2015 |
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How much damage does Rocket Barrage do? Its about 4 Lancers worth of shots in an area out of Lancer reach. Plus Lancers only get a limited amount of shots so its a trade off. Also the Darscen Hater debuff applies to him so the Darscen racism is mostly a nobility issue. If Cordelia never revealed herself as a Darscen queen the revolt would never happen. gyrobot fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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thetruegentleman posted:You know, the rebels do have a fair point (if their telling the truth): Gallia is already battered from the war, and taking care of thousands of migrants fleeing certain-death in the Empire might be logistically impossible to do without putting major strain on an already over stressed populace...and the idea of being turned into a second class citizen in your own country, after fighting on behalf of those very same people, must be very unnerving. It's not an unjustified fear either, because the Darcsen's are themselves second class citizens, and the people of Gallia know things could be flipped around rather easily with enough Darcsens. And what are the Darcsens going to do to prove otherwise? Hand out cinnamon rolls? I'm sure those would make up for everything. Of cpurse even if Baldren wasnt racist he is still an absolute monarchist which Cordelia is not going to like. He hated the Gallian generals and nobility who would toss Gallian lives away and wanted a Gallia with an absolute monarchy. [modedit: C'mon man, the goddamn page you linked even says "significant spoilers"!] Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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thetruegentleman posted:I'm going to second this; in a worse game, we would be seeing the female soldiers stripped of their clothes upon being shot. I honestly don't get why so many games have a swimsuit or hot spring scene (do Japanese games get some kind of tax credit for it?), but at least its just the one scene, not the whole game. Database syndrome, what do you guys want? An academy party where Zeri have a spiked drink and enter a happy/angry/sad drunk period? Or a firing range moment where Zeri uses pictures of Baldren and Audrey as target practice? That said, a poolside scene is a great way for the main cast to bond and have Juliana knocked down a peg.
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On Marion getting reconcilliation is because she saw a Darscen who is leadership material. He literally stood up for a blue blooded noble and calmed down the team he just beat even though it was in reason to rub it in.
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scissorman posted:Oh hey, you finally got to the part where they "reveal" the truth about the artificial valkyries. V2s make the most outta the Ragnite Gallia has. You can use them in surgical strikes.
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Baldren is an absolute monarchist. If he wasnt a Darscen Hater he is going to purge every noble house that dont agree with him and still become monarch.
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Night10194 posted:Baldren is the villain this game deserves. As in standing united regardless if you were from the Empire, Gallia, Atlantic Fed, Darscen and Valkyria. Ah well good to know the lp is done at last.
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