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seorin posted:I thought straight up locked recipes and/or gear was what they intended when they announced specialists, and I'd be fine with that. It would be fun to coordinate with the other crafters in my FC. The insane grind for even one class is not fun. I just want crafting to be more like it was in 2.0 - flawed, sure, but at least the stuff you made was worth the effort it took to make it. I conceptually like the scrip system a hell of a lot better. I am not a rich man, I will never be a rich man. The likelihood that I will ever sit on any more than a few million gil is next to 0. That this gives me a way to to get a reasonably good bit of gear that doesn't require melding is perfectly great for me. I am more than happy to grind out some scrip for 8.2 weeks over getting a bunch of mats together, tracking down a crafter, and then pissing millions in expensive melds down the drain since the stat caps on this gear are so god drat high. Assuming that I can 2** poo poo with the scrip gear of course, otherwise it's worthless. Mostly I am just mad I will still have to god drat meld jewelry
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Jul 22, 2015 05:41
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seorin posted:I like it conceptually, too. I was really looking forward to it when it was announced - expensive meldable set for day 1 and weekly capped scrip for people who don't want to bother with melding. Although I fully expected scrip gear to be class specific, I think the ideal setup would have been crafted AF like in 2.0 with a generic scrip set that takes ~3 months to get (or 2 months + another week for each pair of tools). The crafted sets would be great for the rich omnicrafters (and nq versions for glamour) while players who went the scrip route could catch up in a few months, which is about how long it takes for them to add catch-up mechanisms for DoW/M classes. I'm just going to get scrip stuff for my specialists and not even acknowledge the other classes exist.
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Jul 22, 2015 07:08
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ihatepants posted:This is from a while ago, but I just started the game recently and am trying to catch up with the thread. Which retainer classes are worth going with? I'm assuming it should be one (or two) of the gathering classes? Under the assumption you don't plan to pay extra for more retainers, the best pair is either double combat or combat/fisher. Reason being that both give you control over things that are pretty rng, versus the other 2 gatherers where it's pretty easy to get out there and gather your own stuff.
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Jul 22, 2015 09:59
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ihatepants posted:Thanks! How would it change if I were eventually going to pay for the additional retainers? If you paid for 2 extra retainers beyond the initial 2 you may as well get the miner and botanist. They can save you some time by fetching up nonsense you can't be bothered to that you end up using a lot like flax, mithril or silver. They also get unique stuff they bring back in exploration like pets. You are on your own if you go with 8 retainers.
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Servers are up. Edit: 8 red scrip a turn in for gatherers, 16 for crafters it looks like. 470 collectability for gathering, bah. Failboattootoot fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 10:30
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jyrque posted:I've been wondering: how is ninja at 60? I've heard a lot about every single other job but ninja is always overlooked. Ninja is fine. Not a lot has changed as others have mentioned but my numbers are competitive with people in better gear than me so the class seems to be in a good place. Maybe not as good as drg or smn, but still solid. It's also become a bit of a rarity. Ciaphas posted:Phew, finally got through RavEx. Don't want to PF that again for a long time You could probably be a little bit higher but not that much. I think these guys are forgetting that Revana has a lot of downtime in it. That said, go punch a training dummy for 3 minutes and if you aren't parsing over 1k minimum, you are messing something up badly. Even under 1100 probably means you could be working on something.
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Jul 25, 2015 06:13
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Klades posted:Plunge is the best button in the entire game. You seem to have misspelled level 3 melee limit break.
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Don't let these guys scare you off, there is still a lot of value to be had in getting your crafts to 60 regardless of how silly the endgame for crafting is. That said, do it because you like doing it. If you hate it, don't feel obligated.
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Jul 27, 2015 04:29
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fount of knowledge posted:Yes. Enjoy your single Teir IV materia! I care! Cul was excellent.
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I quite like that this game doesn't have either merits or skill trees.
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Jul 31, 2015 21:51
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DrNutt posted:Just a general noob question: does this game get really hard at level 30 or did I miss something? I did my job quest and got Ninja, and the first training mission took me like 4-5 tries (My First Mudra). Overall even doing random quests I feel far more fragile than I ever did before and I'm just wondering if I would have been better if playing a more tanky class. None of the solo content in this game is actually difficult. The number one mistake a lot of people make is that they actually do things when entering a solo instance and that is incorrect. When you first zone into a solo instance you want to just stand stock still until enemies appear and they engage whatever is they are going to engage. 9 times out of 10 this means a boss will engage a nearby helpful npc and some trash mooks will run at your face. Once you have determined that whatever friendly npc is there to help has gotten aggro on as much as possible, then you begin killing things. There are a few instances where this is not the case (tank class quests almost always expect you to pick up everything for example) but this works so often it should be your default strategy. Also, once things are set, you want to stand near friendly npc's because drat near all of them are jobless scrubs who cross class cure.
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Thundarr posted:Despite the fact that I'm going all in for fishing scrip gear, I found that chysahl / adamantite is just more reliable for farming red scrips. If my time window is limited and overlaps anyway I may as well go for the guaranteed items. It's s cool bonus for anybody who only has Fisher at 60 though. Tell me your fishing secrets because I have never had any luck with perch!
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fount of knowledge posted:What are you supposed to do when you queue an EXDR with a low-gear tank and you're decked out in Alex gear and an Esoterics weapon? At that point it feels like you actively have to sabotage your own rotation, since within 3-4 gcds on a mob you're already stealing it. Just pull the threat. Wait a bit at the start of fights if you want to be polite.
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Aug 5, 2015 04:13
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TooManyUzukis posted:A fully complete relic weapon will reportedly give you a leg up on the new one, but the extent of this boost is unknown. It likely won't be worth the time/money invested, but who knows. It's not even known if it's a boost. All that's been said is that zenith havers will get something. Could just be extra cutscenes.
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I like the red scrip system as is and definitely prefer it in all ways to any of the 2.x craft gear grinds.
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Rei_ posted:So I have never played Archer past unlocking hawks eye, but I have MNK/NIN/DRG all at 50.. What should I level next? It seems you like melee dps so I would recommend Warrior or Dark Knight because they feel a lot like melee dps sometimes.
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Octolady posted:I've just started playing this game seriously and have a lvl 51 Ninja now. I'm working on getting the Ironworks gear and just trying to complete as much poo poo as possible. When I'm in roulette though I tend to get a lot of poo poo for putting out low DPS. I try to keep up my Huton buff, my poison and my DOTs, but if anyone could give some general tips for ninja in dungeons that'd be great! Whats your ilvl right now? If you are a fresh 50 it's probably something goofy like 75 or something, in which case low damage is totally reasonable. Some general nin tips: 0. Get WTFast or Pingzapper or whatever floats your boat unless you live close to the data center (Montreal). Nin gets reamed over latency. Don't use macros for any offensive abilities because they don't buffer so you will lose damage. ESPECIALLY don't macro mudras. 1. CC skills in order of importance: Blood for Blood, Internal Release, Invigorate, Second Wind, Keen Flurry. If you haven't suffered the lancer grind to 34 for blood for blood you are now past the point where it is acceptable to not have done so. 2. The nin opener that I use is Dancing edge combo > shadow fang combo > Mutilate > Aeolian combo. At 52+ you want to use armor crush instead of aeolian any time it would add 30 seconds to huton. After this you just refresh stuff as it needs to be refreshed. Don't forget that they added a positional requirement to Aeolian Edge so now you need to be behind the target for max damage. 3. Ninjutsu priority on single targets is Huton > suiton > raiton. On groups of 3+ it's Huton > Doton if the things will live 20 seconds or so > katon. Do not use Doton on single targets. 4. As a general dps tip, you want to stack as many damage bonuses together as you can. This means using all your cooldowns at once and then unloading all your damage abilities as best you can. Here is the fygm dps rotation for when cooldowns are up: Start with Huton up and ninjutsu preferably off cooldown or coming off cooldown in 10 seconds or so: Spinning Edge > Gust Slash > Blood for Blood and internal release in the same gcd > Dancing Edge > Suiton > Spinning Edge > Kassatsu > Shadow Fang > Trick Attack > Mutilate > Raiton > Spinning Edge > Mug > Gust Slash > Jugulate > Aeolian Edge. In case the ninjutsu cooldown isn't timed well (tank pulls immediately after you refresh huton being the most common example) you want to blow Kassatsu to Suiton to Trick Attack on time. This rotation will undergo some minor modifications on your way to 60. You'll want to Shadewalker the tank as you run in or after the first spinning edge. You will use Armor Crush instead of Aeolian sometimes. You will want to Duality right before either Aeolian or Armor Crush. You will want to Dream within a Dream where mug is and bump mug or jugulate to after the aeolian. 5. AE "rotation" get Huton up. If it's already up then Katon > Death Blossom > B4b and IR > Death Blossom > Kassatsu > Death Blossom > Doton (Kassatsu makes every tick crit) > Death Blossom spam, use Katon on CD, use Armor Crush combo to refresh Suton if you need to. When you get down to < 590 tp use Invigorate. When you get down to 400 tp and Invig is on cd, switch to the single target rotation. Failboattootoot fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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nuru posted:MSQ outright gives you the 100/110 Soldiery gear now. Sure but they said they had barely done the MSQ post 50. Edit: I actually have no idea when the MSQ hands out gear. But I assume it's not early on because my friend just finished 2.1 and he's still wearing his goony rear end pink tink can set he's worn since hitting 50. Edit 2: VVVV I knew about af 2 or whatever at 50 now, but that would still leave them in level 39 jewelry probably. Failboattootoot fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Octolady posted:I think my ilvl is around 88-92 right now? I still have some of my lvl 50 job gear, plus a couple of Ironworks pieces. Story wise I've just unlocked Good King Moggle Mog. Thanks for the rotation tips, I haven't really played MMOs much before so a lot of this is completely arcane to me, I wasn't doing that poo poo at all beyond keeping up Huton/mutilate/dancing edge so people probably noticed. I haven't grinded lancer yet either, I'll do that too. If I remember right, Good dps for I90 was around 250-300. I110 is 350-400 and i130 is 400+. Currently when I get sync'd down in those 50 dungeons I pull 530. Mostly this is just a frame of reference, so if you get yelled at by some jerk and you are doing this much dps you know they are just being a prick. Failboattootoot fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:So I randomly got complimented on my DPS after an A1 Normal run and I stopped to talk to the guy about it since I'd been on the Oppressor 0.5 that died second with a good 10% difference in health. Turns out he was a Warrior tanking the other one and his DPS had made the difference. The bigger question is what was your dps on Faust or a dummy? 907 sounds a little low for your gear level but A1 has a fair amount of downtime, especially if you are dealing with adds and I haven't done it in a couple weeks so I don't remember what I was parsing during A1. As a Nin at i190 I just parsed 1134 on a dummy which is good but not great and I would expect a bard at the same ilvl to be within 100 of that..
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Kibner posted:Accuracy feels like a pointless stat that only serves to say "no, you will NOT deal damage in this fight!". The point of accuracy is to make gearing decisions difficult. I think they could probably find a better means of doing that, but here we are.
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Ineptitude posted:Someome suggested i use the healing downtime to DPS but i would have chosen a DPS class if i wanted to do that. If healers are supposed to dps in this game then i am not sure that healing is for me. Healers should be dpsing. I don't think a healer who doesn't dps in dungeons is bad but I do roll my eyes and quietly hate them for being aggressively mediocre and lazy. Tanks do not play similarly. I cannot think of a class in this game that is interesting before level 30. Everything up to 30 is designed for people who don't know what mmorpg stands for. My advice to you is to learn to love cleric stance and tossing dots and stones around because now that you got regen you should need to do even less healing than before. If it's any consolation, once you get to 50 most dungeons will consist largely of a tank pulling multiple groups at once and you will have to spend a lot of time healing (the other time should be spent casting holy).
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Thumbtacks posted:Are there any...slower, I guess, DPS classes? Part of the reason I stopped playing MCH is because they have so many dumb buttons and I really don't like popping two ogcds at once. I should probably just go BLM, they're heavy but not crazy fast. Blm is probably the slowest, though I have no idea what the post 50 spells have done to the class. For melee classes it's drg, if for no other reason than drg still has a 2.5 gcd while nin and mnk both hang out around 2 seconds due to personal buffs. All 3 of them still have a bunch of ogcd things though so you end up playing keyboard piano in bursts regardless of which one you pick.
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vOv posted:Ahaha, the secret tracks on the new OST are the Great Gubal Library theme (which is weird, because it's 2.2-2.55) and an 8-bit remix of Titan's final theme. Tell me the password please! I am either blind or dumb.  Edit: Thanks! Failboattootoot fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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I am a big fan of the quick reload change. It's a small thing but it should actually make it a lot less aggravating to play.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Are the big NA servers good in terms of market prices/general friendliness? The most popular ones seem to be Gilgamesh and Balmung considering it's near impossible to make a character there. Excalibur is the goon server and I don't know why you wouldn't roll there. Assuming you have your reasons, big servers are fine. People on excal are friendly and the markets are fine and excal is a huge server. I know nothing of Gilgamesh. Balmung is the RP server so it's full of the ERP crazies.
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Obscurity posted:Yeah I know that, but what I am wondering if there are cutscenes that are entirely skippable because they're irrelevant side scenes etc, basically want to know the most straightforward story progression. Or should I just watch everything? This is gonna take hours isn't it? Watching all the cutscenes is a bunch of crap mostly. A lot of them are largely meh until HW. I would suggest watching the story quests from right after titan (level 36ish) until the end of 2.0 then skipping 2.1 and really, 2.2 as well. 2.3 through wherever you are currently are good enough to warrant watching to actually fairly good.
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Fister Roboto posted:This is true. So if you don't want to youtube it, you have two options: wait until the content is trivial and see it later, or git gud and see it now. The problem is that you want the content to be trivial now. Get this stupid elitist garbage out of here.
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Thumbtacks posted:i'm bored of combat classes They are all fun. What isn't fun is paying for poo poo or gathering the poo poo to make poo poo yourself. I still enjoy it though, and honestly red scrip is the main reason my sub hasn't lapsed.
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Crafting is cool and good. It is not crafting's fault a lot of you are super mad about red scrip crap when you could just be grabbing the unmelded pieces to look fly as hell. Reasons you should craft: 1. Some of the best looking gear is crafter only. If you don't immediately get the weaver af2 set the second you can then you are loving up harder than any fracture cross-classer. 2. Repair your poo poo in a dungeon when you forget to repair like a jackass. 3. Making gear for your alt jobs rules. Someone a page or 2 ago was like "I don't need to craft gear when I can get token gear" or some nonsense and it's like bitch that's cool and all but levels 1-45 and then 50-59 are actually shockingly expensive if you want hq gear. And you should because dumpstering some cocky drg on your "garbage tier machinist" rules hard. 4. Crafting is fun. Except when you nq something at 99% quality then you kind of want to die. Don't craft to make money though. That is a fool's errand. Failboattootoot fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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kalstrams posted:I sometimes check out streams for this game, and notice people doing some ?dungeon/raid? content with gamepad. I'd guess it to be viable, since the game is meant for consoles as well, but is it so even for Savage content and whatever are the more action-intensive roles, such as healers or summoner? The devs have stated they do all of their raid testing on controllers. So yes.
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Semi-related but drat do i ever hate Wildfire. It's such a good cooldown and it's functionally worthless on everything but bosses because nothing lives long enough.
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To be fair, Tenzarin probably should not be listened to!
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Is there a way to macro putting a macro on my hotbar? Found out how to assign abilities through the macro system but not a macro.
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Ignimbrite posted:Drag your macro to a toolbar. If i wanted to be dragging nonsense around from menu's i wouldn't be trying to macro the whole process into 2 buttons; 1 for pvp layout and 1 for pve. 
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