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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Wait this is still a thing? It'll probably exist as long as dumb people and social media do.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2015 13:53 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 14:06 |
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I'm glad this thread has already degenerated into involved arguments about people's opinions on individual character designs.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2015 18:00 |
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Heteroy posted:It's just surprising that this has had such long legs. Is there really anything more to it than socially impotent young men yelling, occasionally under the guise of fighting for journalistic honesty? I'd think they would have found new injustices to latch on to and use as a proxy for their ineffective flailing after a couple months. Nerds can bitch about anything indefinitely, even if its something as simple as a game not being as pretty as it was in screenshots.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 00:36 |
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Exclamation Marx posted:How come the gamer gate is mad about ethnic minority representation in games as well? Because they gather on a site where one of the top boards is one for political discussion where most users identify as National Socialists.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 04:37 |
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Al Cowens posted:I will say this, though, at least they have the honesty to call me a degenerate friend of the family to my face than the condescending rainbow hair with asinine euphemisms like "people of color" Have you considered that perhaps both groups are very bad?
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 05:00 |
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achillesforever6 posted:And some are mad about jokes that Tim Schafer makes at an award show. How could anyone hate Tim Schafer, he seems like such a cool dude The explosion of hate against Schafer over the course of Broken Age's development was ridiculous, but I thought the bit his company put out for the Video Game Awards was pretty lovely. Even without being invested in it, it just felt really overly snarky, especially for a small intermission during an awards show. I also think that despite the charm of his games, he's proven that publishers were right about him being bad at getting a game out on time and budget.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 05:11 |
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Bholder posted:The joke was lame as hell. there was also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huWfrqHvUII
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 05:16 |
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Dreylad posted:I asked the same thing earlier in this thread with GG's close association with 8chan, the forum that's composed of people who want a place to post child porn but got no answer. I guess it's an uncomfortable alliance? I don't know about why 8chan was made, but it's where a bunch of gamergaters went when they were driven out of 4chan for being too annoying, if you can believe that.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 05:19 |
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Unfunny Poster posted:Wasn't the claim that Moot was "corrupted by SJWs"? that's what they call anybody that disagrees with them. they got real mad over a john oliver bit on internet harassment because they used short clips of anita and wu as examples, even though they had others that went into far more detail.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 05:27 |
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i see free speech as a garden. if you let anything grow wherever it wants, you're going ot end up with an ugly mess where the biggest and most obnoxious plants take most of the space. you have to trim and moderate things to allow all plants to grow from my experience with those kinds of sites, you nailed it. appropriately they call any kind of moderation "censorship" and cry a lot about it.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 05:28 |
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Bholder posted:https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/613153475845709824 I could understand wanting there to be a Free Play mode or something where you could mix leagues, but I don't get the "features in videogames will change major organizational rules in pro sports" train of thought.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 01:29 |
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SedanChair posted:It's a good idea. It would really be no different from Ali versus Tyson in Fight Night or whatever. Pro sports games already transgress against the boundary of time itself in order to construct fantasy scenarios; how is gender any more absurd or insurmountable a barrier? I don't disagree in the context of videogames, I'm just confused by her extension to professional sports in reality.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 02:00 |
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Let us English posted:50% of games at E3 allowed the player to play as a woman, 9% had exclusively female protagonists, the question was not applicable in 14% of games, and 27% had exclusively male player characters. Not ideal, but not bad either. Speaking of which, femfreq had a similar set of stats, but one of the comments attached to it confused me a bit. quote:These numbers also reflect the fact that a purely binary understanding of gender was on display in the games featured at E3, with no options featured that might allow players to pick from a wider spectrum of gender identities or presentations. I'm not exactly sure what "a wider spectrum of gender identities" would mean with regards to character creation.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 01:52 |
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Neurolimal posted:It might also be a play at transgendered representation, which is actually a tricky subject and something that I might actually agree with any potential arguments that feminists focused on games are misguided; Transgendered people want to be identified as their gender, not Transgendered Gender, If they've transitioned to the point that they are comfortable in their bodies then they'd identify with the female character, even if the character might not be transgendered. Yeah, this is what confused me. To my understanding, transgendered people want to be fully thought of and treated as their gender identity, they don't want to define themselves as something like "woman that has/used to have a penis". I can understand desiring representation of them in games by having developers create stories about them, but I'm not sure about the purpose of it in a character creation system.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 02:07 |
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Control Volume posted:So in this threads educated opinion, who is "winning" and why The uninvolved.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 03:03 |
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Control Volume posted:How much has video gaming been destroyed by the SJWs, in one sentence? Thanks They wrote articles and blogs that made me very mad.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 03:07 |
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Yeah, I wish they'd write an article on games they want to talk about rather than randomly firing off a string of tweets for others to argue about.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 03:54 |
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Unfunny Poster posted:Did that Polygon writer actually say Polish people didn't have their own culture? Not being a prick, I just like laughing at silly statements like that. Got a link? It was something to the effect of "there isn't really such a thing as slavic/polish mythology". e: This isn't Polygon, but I think this is where the quote comes from, at least the one I was thinking of. You might be referring to something else. http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2015/06/04/witcher-3-and-diversity/ quote:As an actual Slavic person, who was born and grew up in Poland, I feel that I should chime in here. Motto fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Jul 2, 2015 |
# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 07:24 |
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:Japanese properties aren't covered, not as far as I can remember. She did a video on Bayonetta, though it was mostly about a dumb ad in a Japanese train station rather than the game.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2015 18:48 |
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Quote-Unquote posted:Could've done without the stupid death scenes that are pretty much unavoidable the first time you play, though. Yeah, the death scenes are a big reason why I'm not hot on trying the game, just like with Dead Space. It's a lame reason, but I don't want to see my character horrifically mangled every time I screw up.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2015 01:48 |
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Meme Emulator posted:Theres a passive ability (please note that its a passive ability, if any game in the modern era ever gives you an ACTIVE ability for going up a skill tree its an aberration and probably should be celebrated) that lets you deal more damage to male opponents. I forget its name in game but the code referred to it as feministwhore I remember that. Apparently it was something a programmer did on his own, and there's a history of individual programmers putting dumb poo poo and rants in game code.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2015 01:56 |
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SedanChair posted:What's wrong with gameplay being "limited"? Running around in an open environment and shooting things is "limited." Everything is "limited." Why does the year matter? Are we supposed to ignore simpler or less resource intensive forms of gameplay because it's 2015? Fun games are fun games. If you disagree that a game is fun, go cry about how journalists don't agree with you. Most of the people who complain about "limited gameplay" titles that they label as "not videogames" do so out of fear. They think that the success of games they don't like threatens the market for games they do like. This is, of course, silly because as time goes on, more kinds of games can be made due to new methods of funding and distribution, there's no replacing or pushing out going on. But gamers still fear "hardcore" games being threatened by "the casuals", "the SJWs", or "indie not-games".
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2015 23:30 |
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Meme Emulator posted:Lets not pretend the fear isnt validated. Look at the immense number of idiots in the business world pushing Nintendo to go mobile. Fear of mobile is just as silly. Some companies make bad decisions, as companies often do, but mobile has not come close to threatening traditional games. Square Enix has found much success in mobile, but just last month announced a bunch of traditional games for both mainstream and niche audiences.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2015 23:36 |
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Which results in people not having it. Wasn't there some study where some ridiculous number of japanese 20-somethings were virgins, like 30%? e: Here's an article. Some of those stats are crazy. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/22/japans-sexual-apathy-is-endangering-the-global-economy/ Motto fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jul 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Jul 4, 2015 23:58 |
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Archer666 posted:When the working culture is as oppressive as theirs, its not really a surprise that people lock up in themselves and forgo other people. It doesn't help that companies prefer to exploit this system by providing people with easy escapisms like dating video games and such. And then there's the existence of host/hostess clubs to simulate relationships by paying people to pretend to like you so you have somebody to talk and vent with.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 00:53 |
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thefncrow posted:That article is loving hilarious. "Fire Emblem isn't homophobic because it's invoking sexual orientation conversion therapy, it's just referencing a cultural tradition of insinuating that homosexuality equates with immaturity and part of growing up is getting over those feelings to find the straight person you must actually be."
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 01:04 |
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SedanChair posted:*games continue to be aggressively misogynist* Games are actually getting better about this regardless of whether or not we discuss internet losers getting mad about youtube videos.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 06:15 |
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Control Volume posted:I've fallen out of touch, gamergate thread, what's the popular definition of an SJW these days? "Leftist servant of the commiejews"
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 18:14 |
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Panzeh posted:Deadly Premonition, for example, had gameplay that felt extremely forced- like someone just forced them to put in shooting sections so here you go. That's exactly what happened.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2015 00:41 |
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Does Penny Arcade still do anything aside from make a bad comic and be nebulously associated with a couple of gaming conventions? e: I made the mistake of glancing at PA and the art has actually gotten worse over the years. Motto fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Jul 8, 2015 |
# ¿ Jul 8, 2015 07:49 |
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Pandemonium posted:Do people forget that Zoe released her game (or made it free or something) in the wake of Robin Williams' suicide? That's a true scumbag move. And she siced her sycophants on the wizards over at 4 chan because there was like a couple derogatory posts about her at some point (talk about punching down). And that whole thing with her trying her darndest to halt the Fine Young Capitalists while setting up a similar charity on Patreon that had the money donated go directly to her Paypal. The details are a bit fuzzy, but I think that was the gist. Why are you so obsessed with these random youtube women?
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2015 03:12 |
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Gamergate has said many incredibly preposterous things about Zoe Quinn but I was not aware that she was also a time wizard. It's pretty obvious. How else would they execute their plan to destroy all of my childhood videogames?
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2015 03:14 |
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Pandemonium posted:Nah, I just hate the far left. With a vitriol you can't imagine. And I consider myself liberal. Zoe, Wu, and Anita are seen as paragons by the MSM, and as such have had multiple unwarranted opportunities to be on national TV spewing their nonsense. Thankfully none recently. Their time has passed--well, maybe not Anita's--and it's really only here that I am seeing them discussed ad nauseum. /r/KotakuinAction hasn't mentioned Zoe in months. Nor Wu. Anita, however, pops up every now and again for the utter ridiculousness of what she says (see pixelated mess as the best example of a feminist heroine or Witcher 3 being set in medieval Poland and being racist for having no black people). Wu never left her house, that bomb threat against Anita was never credible, Zoe incited an online mob to attack a safe space for 30+ year old virgins with a false flag attack. They all profited off this manufactured outrage and the MSM ate it up. Not necessarily because MSM believed them but because they knew this bullshit would sell. Seriously though, source your quotes.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2015 04:49 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 14:06 |
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Pandemonium posted:Have we touched on #notyourshield yet? And the reactions to that by people opposed to Gamergate that amounted to nothing more than calling PoCs who supported Gamergate house n*ggers. This didn't happen. e: Also it's pretty for somebody on the GG end of things to pull the "it's not my job to educate you!" card.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2015 05:11 |