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Do you like Alien 3 "Assembly Cut"?
Yes, Alien 3 "Assembly Cut" was tits.
No, Alien and Aliens are the only valid Alien films.
Nah gently caress you Alien 3 sucks in all its forms.
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Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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juggalo baby coffin posted:

is this a joke post?

Is this?

juggalo baby coffin posted:

so having david make the alien makes no sense. there were statues of xenomorphs in the engineer base. it also ruins the mystique of the alien. it also makes david look like a loving idiot cause the xenomorph is weaker/worse than the neomorph in every way. So to fix it, instead have it so david made the neomorph from xenomorph samples he found in the engineer ship. have the black goo be something the engineers made from xenomorph eggs they found somewhere. that explains why the black goo creates xenomorph-type poo poo, and why they had statues of the xenomorphs. they were a pre-existing thing the engineers wanted to turn into a more practical bioweapon. then david finds their notes or w/e on the xenomorph and tries to improve it. the neomorph infects people with spores, chest bursts in like 15 loving minutes, comes out of the gate ready to kick rear end, and grows to adult human size inside an hour. it's way stronger than the xenomorph is in a lot of ways.

if they did it like that it would just be an action/horror movie where every character is a loving idiot and there are some good gore scenes. it also wouldn't make david seem like a loving idiot.


SuperMechagodzilla posted:

I'm beginning to think that Alien fans do not actually like Alien.

hahahaa, yesss!

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Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Brad Dourif needed more scenes

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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I was the only one to make a puppet out of my bullfrog . . I was that guy . .

Covok posted:

Now that Disney owns aliens, will they make the movies better?

hahahahaha

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Covok posted:

At least they might take it away from Ridley Scott, a man who is just not able to recapture the magic of the original films and his psychological and philosophical drivel is not being well received and mostly made me and my friends laugh.

Oh no, a movie made you and your friends enjoy yourselves in allegedly unexpected ways! Save us Disney, save us from Ridley Scott!!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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edit: whoops

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Yeah I love me some Cormac, but his writing is for the eyes not the ears. The Counselor would have worked as a silent film.



Snak posted:

Noted bad film-maker Ridley Scott...

Like when the studio made Blade Runner good despite Ridley Scott.

Or when the studio made Kingdom of Heaven good despite Ridley Scott

Or when Harvey Keitel carried The Duellists despite Ridley Scott's Direction.

Thank god someone stopped this madman by taking the reigns away from the director and giving them to the studio that brought us Ant Man...



Now that Disney has freed us from the tyranny of Lucas, a new vile betrayer crazy lucky dumb bad man arises . . .

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
I have the upmost faith in training protocols. Weyland corp's "so-there's-something-inside-of-you" booklet covered all eventualities, all they had to do was follow it!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Well I draw a line at artificial gravity generators so i think most sci-fi is dumb

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
It's been a long time since I watched Aliens and the different versions have merged in memory - does the theatrical cut the sentry guns completely, or does it show them setting up but then cuts them blowing aliens apart?

I really like the idea of the bugs by-passing the machine guns because they're too smart for obvious traps.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Tenzarin posted:

Every character in Prometheus acts like a robot.

How so?

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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New trailer looks like they decided to remake AvP Requiem. Since that was half a good movie, I'm cautiously interested.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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They're basically East India Company soldiers in space, so they naturally equate 'lesser' people with animals.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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How do they see without eyes

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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those are empty sockets, fake news!

I do like that their brains are just a nest of dvds

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

CelticPredator posted:

The eyes are up in there if you look closely.

No way that's penis-mouth range, I'll have to take your word for it.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Disagree, asscreed definitely looked expensive. I kinda dug the Jason Bourne meets X-Men vibe (never played the games) but the story/characters were very boring.

el oso posted:


I have some questions about recurring motifs that I'm wondering if they have a canonical explanation:

- Why are the aliens constantly dripping in liquid?
- Why are there so many hanging chains?
- Why is there so much falling water on the ships/bases?


Sex. Penis monsters are more deadly when they're lubed up

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Blazing Ownager posted:

He is correct: It's aged just fine.


Goddamn it I have no idea why but now I can only picture this happening exactly like the sex scene in Team America only with a xenomorph

Is Aliens one of the extremely few franchises that somehow avoided being turned into a porn spoof, at least? I can picture that going nowhere good. "Oh my God, it's got acid for jizz!"


It's odd, I really dislike Alien 3 but I never hear the main reasons I do being brought up: The characters. I really dislike Bishop/Hicks/Newt not being in the movie, like a lot, given the situation. Killing them before the credits hit the movie hard; but beyond that, the prisoners are just awful characters, not a single one realistic of fleshed out or memorable.

The scene that I will always remember when I watched this movie as the moment two prisoners are fleeing a loving xenomorph, then smash into each other. OK that was kind of funny but.. then they get up and start joking. Joking and joking and acting like loving idiots; a xenomorph was right behind them. It, of course, kills them. That was so loving bad it wasn't even out of a Friday the 13th movie.. it was out of a Halloween sequel. One of the really bad ones. With Ice Cube.

Plus the fact the sheer numbers made the whole movie hilariously stupid. They had to go out of their way to kill themselves there were so many prisoners in their stupid attempts to kill the xenomorph. Seriously if their plan was "Everybody get a loving pipe and stay in a common area" I'm pretty sure the Alien would have gotten a prison yard beat down in the first 30 minutes.

That said I loved the soundtrack, for what it was.

ED: I also hold no ill will against Fincher. He may hate that movie more than anyone. It pretty clearly wasn't his fault.

Morse is not killed by the dragon, he even survives being shot by the marines. Busta Rhymes is in Halloween, not Ice Cube.

You need to work on your movie-watching abilities

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Love that detail, but it could just mean he's the ship cat (rats get everywhere) and she's been posted to the Nostromo for awhile.

But he's definitely her cat by the end, so yeah

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Could David even be killed? Say what you will about Weyland, his products are extremely durable, unlike those Tyrell abominations

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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General Battuta posted:

The only thing wrong with Covenant was forcing the xenomorph into it. It’s a good Lovecraft movie. The polish painter guy aliens were cool. David’s chilling. I want more of David’s No Good Lovecraftian Abomination Planet and I’m sad we won’t get it.

They spend the whole movie on it?? The alien only shows up at the very end!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Owlbear Camus posted:

You're a scientist aren't you?

What makes you think so?

I saw your slide rule. Only scientists carry that kind of weapon.

Perhaps I discredited a scientist and took it from him?

No one can discredit a scientist.

I wish that were so.

:kiss:

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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They don't have their own dongs, hence their fascination with the aliens

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Hodgepodge posted:

As I understand it, John the Baptist evangelized to the powerful, having a royal patron and such.

Much as Shaw's, er, child does to the Engineer :haw:

He was very popular, more so than Jesus was while they were living. Never heard of a royal patron, Herod Antipas had John executed for criticizing his divorce?

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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As someone who knows several PhD scientists and doctors irl I assure you nerds that there is nothing unrealistic in how Milburn & Fifield or Shaw & Holloway behave.

Ever read stories about astronaut misadventures? Or watch nature programs where the zoologists traverse incredibly dangerous terrain? Ever drank with an archaeologist? Do you have any idea how many bad tattoos the average chemist has?

A doctorate won't prevent a building from falling on you. Expertise doesn't make you immune to panic or being horny or making bad decisions.

There's no contradiction between them being idiots and being the best in their particular fields.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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PeterWeller posted:

The thing is: they're probably not even full PhD scientists or doctors. Only Shaw, her husband, and the actual medical doctor woman get called "doctor".

Ok, Milburn and Fifield are just in grad school then. That explains why Fifield is so excited to get paid

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Tbf what in nature doesn't love a good nap

CelticPredator posted:

I’m glad you’re doing this for yourself at this point to understand poo poo better or whatever but this is not as interesting to read as you think it might be.

No way, this is the most fun and interesting this thread has been to read in months, if not years!

Ideally no one should take disagreements on The SpaceMonster movie series too personally, but whatcha gonna do? I still get triggered by peeps dissing my boys Fifield & Millburn, and that movie came out like a whole decade ago! lol they're not even important characters, why do I care so much


McSpanky posted:

As a peanut gallery spectator to this whole exchange, knock it off with this dumb poo poo.

e: oh new page, you sure earned that custom avatar didn't you buddy?

I admit I didn't read the entire conversation that their av links to, but even a cursory skim reveals that it's not really the "ownage" whoever bought it for them thinks it is.

Although really Ferrinus, NOT being so hysterically paranoid that you're actively searching for betrayal everywhere, is a bit of a cspam faux pas, just fyi

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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I don't have a bone in the Halloween fight but it's not "picking on people" to disagree with the words they have chosen to type - until Musk can unite our minds with microchips that's all we have to go on!

It's unpleasant when I feel I'm being misunderstood (accidentally or purposefully), but sometimes that's on me for not being clear enough and sometimes that's on you for not being reading carefully enough - it's an unavoidable aspect of human communication, all you can do is relax or make an effort or a bit both

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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multijoe posted:

I will be disappointed to never see him get his extremely violent comeuppance at the hands of his own creations

Why would they do that, he's one of them

Humans are dangerous to him but he's generally a few steps ahead of us

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Maybe that guy is always getting infected with weird parasites, so they were like "old man newt, at it again" yawn

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Also, in promotheus it's not actually a snake and the biologist can see that

It's a just a big worm and he has no way to know it's impossibly strong and full of acid

Plus he's encased in a state of the art space suit, and trying to impress his not-boyfriend while high on space weed

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Wrong! He thinks Fifield is cute, and wants to touch his snake-worm

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Is mother an acronym?

MOTHER eat the eggs

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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You illiterate fools

The power is obviously cut by the huge amount of acid melt caused by the sentry gun defense

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Mister Speaker posted:

That sort of reminds me of a point someone made in the other (better) Alien thread in GBS, about Prometheus and (even moreso) Covenant. The black goo, and later the airborne spores from those weird plants that these scientists can't help but stick their faces into... These are easily much more effective ways of propagating a parasitic organism. So why is the much more vulnerable xenomorph obsessively developed by David and seen as the 'perfect organism''?

I could tell you it's because Prometheus and Covenant are bad movies but that doesn't seem like a popular take ITT.

IIRC David never talks about the "perfect organism", that's Ash, a different character. David likely created those neomorph spores as well as the face hugger egg, nothing implies he's beholden to a single process of creation. Plus obviously his goal isn't to propagate a virus as optimally as possible - he just wants to experiment and refine his offspring.

Like he's gonna have to get creative to grow those 2 embryos he brought on board the Covenant in a way he hadn't before, he doesn't have any goo with him!

Scientist and soldiers irl constantly stick their faces where they shouldn't, that's one of the more realistic things in these movies

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Martman posted:

this is now the Jonesy thread



What's really going on with that darn cat? Share your favorite theories

He respects the alien for its perfect ambush of Bret for sure

Edit: possibly jealous

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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SUNKOS posted:

This is wonderful news and I hope it's true, the franchise thrived with new people and new ideas. The plot that's described does sound silly but not any more than that of Prometheus & Covenant were you to sum them up in such a manner, so I'll remain optimistic now that the IP is once again free.

Lol

At last

Disney corp has freed us from the tyranny of Scott free productions


CelticPredator posted:

I just want my properties to be subversive and divisive and cool. I don’t want to be fan bated. I want something new!

:bisonyes:

We'll never know but given the strength of his ouevre I bet Blomkamp's would have been super sick no matter how retcon/fan-servicey it was on paper.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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MLSM posted:

I’ll never understand how Blomhack stans still exist after Elysidum, Fappie, and Dumonic. Thankfully that last one destroyed what was left of his career, so we can all rest easy knowing a cynical Terminator: Dark Fart type retread/retcon is not in store for the Alien series. But Disney might find another hack like Hack Snyder to do it with those Disney dollars, so who knows.

Maybe Disney will let Ridley Hack finish the David storyline after The Last Durf and House Of Yawn get nominated/win oscars early next year?

Neil hasn't made a bad movie of any length yet, and demonic looks dope. His career is fine lmao

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Well I thought the trailer looked neat, gotta go with my gut on this one

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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I haven't seen it yet but I imagine Raised by Wolves has a bunch of stuff Ridley originally intended for the sequel to covenant

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Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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No Dignity posted:

I guess we're never going to see David get his comeuppance

How could we, he's always a step ahead!?

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