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mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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GloriousDemon posted:

I'm glad we have a new thread so I can get on the ground floor of some of these discussions, so many times in the old thread people would say oh Jim Bob and Mary Sue are going nuts with the fugalzor in this update, and I was left the outside going, who what?

It really didn't help with there is literally six billion comics named Demon. Solid title idonotlikepeas.

That time the demon attacked the demon on demon with the demons, that was pretty demonic though.

This post coming from Glorious Demon.

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mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Jackard posted:

The art may be rougher but he really nailed the expression in that second panel.

I thought for sure you were going to link to this second panel.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Spark That Bled posted:

It's standard ettiquette: whenever something goes wrong or there is something you just don't like, you blame Tumblr for it. It's always Tumblr.

Note that nobody cares about the comic. The nose is literally the only interesting thing about it.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Reiley posted:

i put it all on the line. My butt cred.... is in tatters......

On the other hand, whoever said "Butt Fighters" earlier wins something!


inkblot posted:

I hadn't noticed the wiki link at the bottom of the page until now. It's amazing.

I love how it references the (nonexistant) Buttlord that came before Buttlord GT.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Is that the reason why people here always say read past the first 100 pages? I never even bothered to look it up, but I always assumed it was just boring or something.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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NorgLyle posted:

Isn't Questionable Content set in a vaguely defined sci fi futureland with robots and space stations and teleporters? Wouldn't a trans character in that setting be pretty much just any other woman? Also, the writer of /Questionable Content/ is doing a trans character? Is it actually offensive or just clueless and bland?

Questionable Content's hatedom is weird because it's the most boring inoffensive comic and the readers hate themselves for reading such a boring comic but spend years waiting with baited breath for it to do something offensive. It's weird.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Bongo Bill posted:

I kind of like it, but I do not know why.

Like I said it's not especially bad in any area (it would be trivial to name webcomics with worse art, worse writing, dumber metaplots, etc.) but there is (was?) this huge contingent of readers that was desperately hoping it would be the provider of the next loss.jpg.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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To be fair isn't Kate Beaton a personal friend of Diaz too? Maybe he's really nice in person.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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A Wizard of Goatse posted:

remember the extremely public meltdown he had over Mary Cagle making a mild joke that, naming no names, implied there was something unsavory about his webcomics waifu

majormonotone posted:

I think Ryan North is too. Probably also, like, Christopher Hastings and Danielle Corsetto and all of the Webcomic Famous crew. I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy in person, or whatever, but on the Internet he just comes across as a creepy weirdo with a badly written webcomic that updates once a year (unless he's actually updating at a regular pace now, I don't really keep up with him for obvious reasons)

I think we agree with each other since I meant that as a backhanded complement. :v:

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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RoboCicero posted:

To be fair, cast pages are really rarely updated. Half the time you can hit them up to see character designs from another era, and bios that were written prior to the last four character arcs.

Also! Monster Pulse doesn't have a thread anymore right? So let's speculate! These guys seem really with-it to be those recursive abominations that were floated a few chapters ago, though they also don't seem tied to another agent (the newest one seems to be getting directions directly from SHELL, rather than from its host). Maybe they stabilized the process?

Yeah that joke is actually kinda funny since even today every webcomic has a cast page which is either so vague it's useless or COMING SOON.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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khy posted:

Update : Apparently due to the comments system in use on CRFH/Power Nap (Which requires zero authentication of any kind) and the fact that both the author and the artist were incommunicado for so long, trolls went in and started posting using Maritza's name. Apparently Power Nap isn't ending, they're just super slow because they're releasing a book and going to 'cultural events'.

This is what happens when you let your webcomics sit idle for well over a month without a single word about the delays to your fans I guess :v:

What's the word for the exact opposite of spoiled? Because after Lackadaisy and The Meek etc. my first reaction to that was "one month? That's outright timely!"

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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"Guy named Otto Octavius winds up with eight limbs. What are the odds?"

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Captain Bravo posted:

It's traumatic, but also kind of cathartic. It's perfect the way it is, gently caress the haters, if they don't like it that's their deal but I would be pretty disappointed if you changed it. It's raw and emotional and fierce in a way that few other online art offerings can be.

Yeah. It's not something that's ever going to be funfunfun happy but I can't take my eyes off it which has to mean something.

And anyway, if you really wanted to sell out you shouldn't make a funny strip either, you should make a webcomic about a dozen attractive underage teenagers with colorcoded superpowers.

mycot fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jan 8, 2016

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Dogwood Fleet posted:

Also they've been dead for maybe 20 pages?

Yeah this is the sort of webcomic where the page per update format makes it really bad to analyze while it's going.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Pavlov posted:

I remember that in the madoka thread the mod banned the word 'deconstruction'.

I never heard of that and haha that's amazing.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Nuns with Guns posted:

I don't blame you. Webcomics don't have a great history with using real world religions.


It'd be nice if we could a restrained and thoughtful way to incorporate religion into speculative fiction tho. Scifi tries to get away with it by saying "oh we've evolved past the whole thing :smaug:" while religions in fantasy stories usually don't come in more flavors than "I pray to the sun god and get cure light wounds 5x per day" or not-Spanish Inquisition burning the heretics/witches. It''d be interesting to explore more how having a world where gods are some times provably real and get involved in global affairs affects how society functions.

I really liked Avatar the Last Airbender's depiction of spirituality in a fantasy setting.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Zweihander01 posted:

After binging Daughter of the Lilies I don't really mind if it's got some Christian influences. The bizarre alien angel/vision/aura/whatever is what gives me a good feeling; the people who remember how terrifyingly psychedelic and hosed up angels are supposed to be tend to be pretty knowledgeable and level-headed, as opposed to the White Jesus types. And I gave Kill Six Billion Demons a pass for being pretty heavily inspired by Buddhism and all.

Depictions of angels that are something more than jrpg villains are seriously underrated. "Do not be afraid" is a badass entry. The vaguely robotic angels in KSBD are also really creative.

mycot fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Feb 16, 2016

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Tollymain posted:

okay that's fair

alternative answer: human males and females don't look nearly as different as western culture has led you to believe

You're just reminding me of that Jojo cover where there's like three different men and women next to each other and they all have the exact same face (I mean Jojo rules and it's clearly a deliberate stylistic decision, but it's still weird.) Like let's not get carried away sameface isn't necessarily a gamebreaker but it's not that realistic either.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Hey I found it.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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The Lord of Hats posted:

Isn't Tessa the person who has habitually flaked out on different webcomics?

You're thinking about Hanna is Not a Boy's Name, yes (and Sarah Stone is her sister). For what it's worth Not Drunk Enough has been updating regularly even though it's not very popular in this thread.

Every time I think about HINABN I feel old. It predates Homestuck becoming something super huge so it almost feels like it comes from a different era.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Nuns with Guns posted:

Tessa Stone also did Under Lock & Key before Hanna is Not a Boy's Name. I feel like there was at least one other, but I can't remember what it was called.

Yeah I know but HINABN is the only one people cared about.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Ofaloaf posted:

I just don't like stories about secret worlds where the people in hiding carry the heavy burden of communing with angels and turning into griffons and living in mansions and maybe there's immortality too I forget? and generally it just seems like they have a really good deal going on.

It's been years since I've read Skin Deep but I remember a lot of the supernatural creatures had pretty awful drawbacks like not being able to "turn back" or losing sapience over time. Anyway I don't remember it being fetishistic at all, but like I said I was a lot more naive back then so I might be missing something. When I think Obvious Fetish Webcomic I think of something like Spinerette or that comic about a woman with no arms.

vvv Hey, nobody says Cyclops not being able to turn off his eye beams is uncomfortable, is what I'm saying. Believe me in a sexualized thing the drawbacks would be something a lot less straightforward.

mycot fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Feb 26, 2016

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Bobulus posted:

Yeah, I don't see Skin Deep as an allegory about social struggle either. It's really just a fantasy world scenario. Remember the cartoon Gargoyles? Secret monsters live all over the world, only a select few know about them. Heck, some of them could even appear human. The It's just that, but with more kinds of monsters. The fact that this has some crossover with furries and otherkin is probably an issue for the author, but that doesn't seem the intent, either.

Yeah I think this thread is reading too hard into it; the discrimination allegory isn't in every plot about supernatural creatures in the modern world. It's more like wizards in Harry Potter.

RoboCicero posted:

Wait, isn't Monsterkind also about the persecuted monster minority that are all tall handsome men, or am I unfairly characterizing the comic?

The point was that it's a compare/contrast thing. Monsterkind actually explicitly is a metaphor.

mycot fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Feb 26, 2016

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Ofaloaf posted:

Like, props to Poppy, there's reasons said and shown why possums are shat on by the rest of society there.

I agree that the animal racism in Poppy is much more nuanced than in any other story I've seen with something similar. Everyone is nominally ok with possums, it's just that when it comes to anything significant people show how they really feel. :(

edit: As an aside drat you guys really hate coffee houses.

mycot fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Feb 26, 2016

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Pick posted:

I agree that it's important to provide some clarity as to why the discrimination exists in the form chosen in the comic, but I also think these stories (ironically) don't tend to represent a lot of diversity among their monsters as people. The ideological conflicts tend to be very, well, suggestive of discussions among young artists. This thread, for example, spent some time discussing Christian symbolism/imagery like it was bizarre or "weird", but if you go out and about, a very good number of people are Christians and having Christianity be a strong theme in someone's work is not strange at all? For fun, I did a story with a politically conservative monster and a lot of people told me it was loving weird.

I think that's a general genre fiction thing. Ultimately people want to write about what they like except for the occasional gimmick (like you said).

Ofaloaf posted:

I drink coffee like it's water, but young people sitting in a cafe, mulling over their social lives and ruminating on the meaning of whatever is absolutely bougie as gently caress.

The coffee house is an integral part of South Korean culture and I will stand for it.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Tollymain posted:

escape is so near

You said that four years ago.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Homestuck is over 6000 pages long, not counting the length of all the Flash stuff. That is beyond impenetrable.

For what it's worth your icon is literally the longest work of fiction done by a single author. It's not anime territory yet.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Oxxidation posted:

The dog absorbed his fanbase.

It amuses me that thanks to the internet there's this directly traceable migrating blob of awful fans.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Nuns with Guns posted:

I don't like that he won't confront or try to remove the male gaze in his comics and it makes him come off as a pretty big Joss-Whedon-feminist in situations like this tho

I don't even think it's a male gaze thing specifically, everything in his work is fetishized to a ridiculous extent literally or proverbially.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Renaissance Robot posted:

God loving dammit JO, I thought we were cool, why you do this


It's exactly what I imagined it would be, which is why I specifically asked for it not to be clarified <:mad:>

Botl has been steering this conversation from the beginning, like puppets on a string.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Morbi posted:

Well personally, I think that drawing sexy naked people is always inherently exploitative and disrespectful, and anyone who- wait gently caress

*knocks a folder off the table*

OH NO

*sends my extensive portfolio of highly fetishistic monster girl porn all over the floor*

OH MY GOD NO

What if you think it's exploitative but are just shameless? :smug:

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Morbi posted:

I used to be really worried about this phenomenon before I realized that nobody in the mainstream art/entertainment world actually gives a poo poo what kind of weird inappropriate bullshit you've created as long as you're okay at it. I mean, look at Johnny Ryan and Dave Cooper. Those guys have both published the raunchiest, filthiest, most offensive smut and yet they're also long-time contributors to Nickelodeon and currently have their own TV-Y7 cartoon running.

I could put out a bunch of totally innocuous children's books and my saucy demon comics would just be some surprising trivia fact.

Animators are pretty hosed up in general.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Just Offscreen posted:

What is this, a really hosed up storyboard for ants?

Sorry, I don't know why the timg tag isn't working (if you absolutely have to know, it's here). But maybe I shouldn't be sorry, because


Bobulus posted:

What little I can make out by squinting, I'm probably better off only seeing the thumbnail of that.

mycot fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Apr 7, 2016

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Morbi posted:

Everyone in the industry is pretty hosed up, honestly. You guys should try listening to cartoon voice actors talking off the record sometimes.
Rob Paulsen of Yakko/Pinky fame has a podcast where he interviews other actors at home and boy, those are unsurprisingly some of the filthiest-mouthed people in the business.

I hate that I'm constantly getting all the people named Paulson/Dobson in cartoons and comics mixed up.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Renaissance Robot posted:

Much like the whole thread for Gunnerkriggin', some of us don't go there any more, because the slow advance of the plot has sent everyone completely round the twist.

I thought it was the lesbians that did that.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Acne Rain posted:

Are we just assuming based on the trend of obsessive fanbases. Like is there any real data people went from a comic that started with data structure jokes and got more complex from there to a show for six year old girls

I'm not even sure there's a Steven universe connection.

I'm very much tumblr trash and have fallen for all these shows accused of being made for the grand tumblr conspiracy except off (panzer skanks Lp was good but game was too slow) and mlp (why the poo poo did it... Never mind)

I'm still wondering if there are completed internet driven adventures I missed, btw

Yes? Like here's no big conspiracy to it, if you even remotely watched fans of any of them you would notice almost all fans of one ended up being fans of the other. Like I have a tumblr too and this poo poo is archived yo.

This is especially obvious if you watch fanartists, since the ones that actually make money from it have to viciously latch themselves onto every fad as it appears.

mycot fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Apr 13, 2016

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Oct 23, 2014

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It feels like you could make a Bunny Meat series off of tube experiences alone.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Reminder that JDR eventually went on to become a MLP fan (and all she had to do was barely tweak her work to "religionhumans suck 5th dimensional magical slime beingsponies are awesome").

mycot fucked around with this message at 18:14 on May 5, 2016

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Lamps is trolling but if you look up any of the thinly-disguised fetish webcomics that were everywhere in the mid-2000s, the ones that are still going are literally just porn now. And they all switched at around the same time, so if you were a Bad Webcomics Thread Lurker (not that that's an excuse) it's not surprising that you would see all the "suddenly - lesbians" as not very empowering.

I wonder what was the thing that made people stop trying to hide it.

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mycot
Oct 23, 2014

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Did the other webcomic thread at least make it to Pet Island before it died?

vvv Oh I completely lost track of it after a certain point. Like...the third board jump.

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