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chiasaur11 posted:Honestly, of the three emotionally deadened child soldiers, only Mikazuki seems to even be trying. "Hey your brother Lockon was killed in action. You're Lockon now." "No I'm not my brother and stop trying to make me into him." "Whatever Lockon, get on the ship." 6 months later "PS I killed your girlfriend."
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2019 07:23 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 03:10 |
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Darth Walrus posted:I think it was just a quirk of the character designer. Almost every character had a really sour resting facial expression. It owns.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 17:52 |
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If I never watch the episode of Destiny with Meer's bad end, it didn't happen.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2020 08:06 |
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Bring Stabity is a legend.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2020 01:42 |
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I decided to start rewatching 00, and boy howdy is it Wing 2, with perhaps a tendency to overexplain the politics at least early on, but gundam fans still seem to struggle with "Zeon are the bad guys" so maybe it's necessary for something a little more complicated. Not even halfway through season 1 yet, but it still holds up pretty well with a good mix of wow cool robot and solid characters except Allelujah, if with a somewhat inconsistent tone. When I get to season 2 I am going to try to focus on what it actually does well in that mess. I will probably continue to not watch the movie.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2020 07:38 |
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Shinjobi posted:Just about everyone but Patrick did, to be fair Yeah pretty much everyone but Patrick and Setsuna got screwed over by season 2, and the movie takes care of the latter. I guess Feldt also mostly came out okay? It's kind of a shame that the 00 timeline is basically a dead end, since all they could really do with it would be the prequel stuff, which would be a bit unsatisfying. I guess they could decide the movie is non-canon. chumbler fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Aug 17, 2020 |
# ¿ Aug 17, 2020 15:46 |
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Tulalip Tulips posted:I actually liked a lot of Lockon 2 and his arc except for the poo poo with Anew. Yeah Lockon 2 is pretty good, and even the Anew stuff wouldn't have been bad if it weren't so transparently obvious she was going to bite it one way or another.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2020 20:48 |
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Shoutouts to the A-LAWS commander that they made fat and ugly so that you know he's bad.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2020 22:28 |
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Still going off memories of 00 s2 rather than a fresh watch, but I kind of agree that the basic elements for it are mostly right but it just comes together too sloppily and hamfistedly. Authoritarians taking over as a united government is a fine story beat because of course that was going to be a result of the old dead guy's stupid plan, but they go too far in the mustache twirling direction. The crew having to rebuild and fix what got screwed up by the dumb and still ongoing original plan is fine as a driving motivation, but because CB as a larger organization has never really been fleshed out, it feels kind of arbitrary that they just can do that. Saji and Louise having continued involvement in the story as former bystanders dragged into it on each side is good, but it gives us the world's unluckiest boy with no obvious reason for him to be most of the places he's in, and Louise is now somehow a super soldier piloting an advanced weapon rather than just a regular pilot. Sergei getting iced has no real purpose other than Ramba Ral has to die and they needed a way to make Marie relevant again but couldn't just make her relevant on her own I guess. Liu Mei betrays the rest of CB for no real reason other than they needed to tie up her involvement I guess, and Nena is along for the ride, when they didn't really need to even do anything with them other than maybe have Nena get killed in the final battle or something. The innovades hardly come across as characters with any independence or much backstory, which to be fair I guess is the point for at least one of them, so Anew falls completely flat other than Lockon 2 needs some pathos. Setsuna's character change also seems to come out of nowhere, but I could just be misremembering. chumbler fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Aug 18, 2020 |
# ¿ Aug 18, 2020 03:08 |
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I mean in SEED it's always atrocity o'clock, which can be a bit much. And then Destiny decides that actually wasn't enough so they add a few extra hours to the day for more atrocities. Though I guess that is still a lower tier than dropping literally all of the colonies or whatever in the backstory for one of the other UC series.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2020 04:09 |
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Monaghan posted:Good lord this was so frustrating back when this was airing. There's no hint that fully developed AI's existed in this world, so GBN created a goddamn miracle. But instead they chose to keep a video game going rather than maintaining the holy grail of computer science. No one even brings up the idea that they're murdering a sentient being, but talk about how GBN is important. To be fair, that's probably accurate to actual video game companies.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 19:24 |
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I just want them to put wodom pod in mbon as a 2k and mobile doll May as a 3k.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2020 18:15 |
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Maybe UC will finally die.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2020 06:24 |
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Prowler posted:Just finished Iron-Blooded Orphans, and I absolutely loved it. My first full Gundam series. It does have some issues, but I think character development, motivation, and the story are handled really well, especially the ending. 00 season 1 may scratch a similar itch since its main cast is a bunch of broken people trying to justify their actions that are frequently morally questionable, but be prepared for disappointment when season 2 backs way off to a more conventional story that is told sloppily.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2020 21:13 |
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Stairmaster posted:Is Gundam wing the only Gundam series where the second op isn't a downgrade Destiny season 1.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2020 06:03 |
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Daybreak's Bell is better than Ash Like Snow. I'm sorry but it's true.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2020 06:14 |
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In vino veritas.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2020 01:13 |
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Ramadu posted:I've been told 00 is really good too? I'll probably end up watching them all since I have a lot of free time right now and I do like the shows so far. The first season of 00 is really good. The second is significantly less so because I guess the production committee got cold feet and made it way too conventional gundam, with sloppy tying up of loose ends as well.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2020 02:04 |
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Gundam fans' souls are weighed down by UC.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2020 03:17 |
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Omnicrom posted:One of my favorite 00S2 bits is when Katharon shows up to beat the A-Laws with a bunch of regular Flags and then Kati shows up with Patrick to reinforce CB. The Kati-Patrick power couple is one of the best parts of 00 s2, and I love that they've committed to it in the Build universe.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2020 21:34 |
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Legillis and Zeydra are cool, based on having played them in mbon. All the actual gundam AGEs look like junk, though.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2020 16:48 |
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He also adapts to G forces that should turn him into paste by sheer force of will, and then it becomes too slow for him.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2020 03:43 |
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Onmi posted:Here's the current fallout from Operation Stardust that I'm aware of. drat, sounds like there's finally something good in UC.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 05:15 |
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I hope that one girl got to gently caress Cima.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 17:54 |
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The best haro is in Wing.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2020 07:28 |
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Where the gently caress are Leo and Tallgeese?
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2021 21:03 |
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I think the BFG would be closest to Virtue's main cannon in terms of appearance and effect.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2021 17:02 |
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koreban posted:If Zeta is available, I’d love to know where so I can get into that, otherwise, 00G is one of the “good ones”, right? Ive been reading back through the thread and between the meta conversations and how much I’ve consumed lately, it’s a little blurry. 00 season 1 is good, 00 season 2 is a mess, Awakening of the Trailblazer has a good goof in it at least.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 00:25 |
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Gaius Marius posted:Season 2 has a lot of strengths. Good designs, great villain, and it hits it's high points very well. People discount it a lot for not being what they wanted it to be, but if you go in with an open mind it's very good. I mean it's not unwatchable and going back to a more conventional for gundam type of plot isn't bad on its own, but it decides to tie up more loose ends than it needs to on top of adding more, and they're all dealt with in pretty unsatisfying ways. Characters also just make bizarre decisions for no good reason.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 00:48 |
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ninjewtsu posted:I love treize because everything he says and does is absolutely bonkers but if you pay enough attention there is a clear logical underpinning to him. Dude has an internally consistent and ostensibly logical philosophy, it's just some insane alien poo poo Treize is a true hero who values peace and understanding.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 18:58 |
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Treize Khushrenada, age 24, shortly after effectively conquering the world: "Well, I guess there's no future for me. Time to find someone to kill me and give them the tools to do it."
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 20:30 |
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If we didn't have Wufei we wouldn't have Wufei getting completely owned by Treize three times, so who can say whether it was bad.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 23:16 |
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OZ setting up bombs all over a town to try to get the gundams and using a federation retreat as a pretense to invade Relena's kingdom might count, but those are pretty low body count as well. I think Libra also only blew up an uninhabited island, though that would have some environmental effects and probably generate a tsunami at least.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2021 19:54 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 03:10 |
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Technowolf posted:Wing woulda been a lot better if they'd thrown out the Zero system stuff and made Heero, Quatre, Zechs and Dorothy in newtypes or something. It's cool actually that Wing didn't have newtypes. Or haros for that matter.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2021 18:14 |