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I'm going to go with: Ren and Rey are Han and Leia's kids sent for Jedi training very young, bad guy took Ren and brainwashed him and everyone assumed Rey was killed with the rest, when she was in fact spirited away. Han and Leia assumed both children are dead, and it broke their hearts and their relationship. Luke went into hiding after the training got shot down, because the galaxy was clearly not ready for Jedi. Rey grows up knowing she has Jedi in her history -- maybe she has bad memories of that time, or how it ended -- and so rejects it when it comes back to haunt her.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2015 18:06 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 07:53 |
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Ren actually is out to finish what Greedo started.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2015 21:15 |
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Kelp Plankton posted:Does this movie really have a snake man named Snoke And a woman who shoots plasma named Phasma
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 18:16 |
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Corek posted:Greedo, who was greedy And a guy named Luke that we were supposed to like.
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 20:20 |
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Robutt posted:
Luke was Force-sensitive and had actual Jedi training when he faced Vader the first time, and was wayyyy out of his depth. Unless they hook Finn up to a Force-o-meter and it turns up a big zero on camera, I think it's possible.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 14:40 |
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LORD OF BUTT posted:That is actually a fair point, though, why would he be signed on for more if his character dies in this one? He would be signed on to keep the plot under the Cone of Silence. For the amount they'll make on this film, they can afford to keep a 73-year-old man on the payroll to keep a secret.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 00:10 |
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Whodat Smith-Jones posted:No one is dressed for the weather in this picture Haven't they learned by now that multiple outfits mean multiple toys to sell?
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 21:56 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:the emperor in star wars was named after the politician travis bickle aims to assassinate in taxi driver and is also a reference to the central hill in rome. it also woulda been fine to just leave him as "the emperor". Ah yes, the seven hills of Rome. The Aventine, the Caelian, the Capitoline, the Esquiline, the Viminal, the Quirinal, and the Sheev.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 16:46 |
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Unlike R2, BB-8 could conceivably go down a flight of stairs without rockets, though.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2015 20:06 |
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So for those who have seen it, how were the performances, especially by characters we'll see a lot of?
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 19:26 |
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chippocrates posted:I don't know how much flashbacks work for Star Wars. I can't think of any in the OT or PT. Unless it's a force vision like Rey had in VII Leia's "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi" recording is, I think, the only not-Force-vision thing that happens in not-real-time.
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2016 00:01 |
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Teek posted:Fashion: If that spoiler does happen in the next one, it is what should have happened in TFA.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2016 20:37 |
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But seriously, "Leia gives stirring speech to Resistance, meets Han Solo backstage (Rey in tow) for the awkward info dump, gets put into a coma right after" would have been better than what she got in TFA
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 20:40 |
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:They are building them shut people up, but 99% of all the backgrounds are goign to CGI. Sounds as though it's working, if people are commenting on how pleased they are that there are practical sets.
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# ¿ May 3, 2016 00:43 |
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I do* so look forward to the next generation of effects fundamentalists howling and flinging their poop at the CGI in Fury Road and other current darlings in the defense against the great CGI Satan. *don't
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# ¿ May 4, 2016 13:59 |
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Given the amount of fan service in TFA and the need to establish his credibility as a teacher to others, I will be shocked if we don't get Luke Skywalker being a badass using modern action filming techniques at least one time.
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# ¿ May 19, 2016 18:16 |
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sinking belle posted:It came out a little while back that the rumour about the opening shot of VII featuring Luke's severed hand and first lightsaber hurtling through space was true and it was only abandoned because it leaked out. We'll probably get plenty more set photos and other little details, stuff like the title or the major story beats definitely won't leak. Everyone can say this about every dumb leak, though. "Well, it was true until it was leaked, then they took it out!!!! Its absence is proof it was true!"
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2016 14:35 |
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Pops Mgee posted:Why did they go through the trouble of giving pilots cameos and neglect JEK loving PORKINS? The film wasn't made by top men.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 16:39 |
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-Blackadder- posted:However, I can't for the life of me understand why Disney decided to abandon Lucas' movie title naming convention and replace it with the boring boilerplate titles that we're getting in the new movies. I'm just floored that no one at any time during production pointed out that "The [insert whatever] Awakens" and "The Last [whatever]" is bog-standard movie naming. George Lucas made the Star Wars movies that George Lucas wanted to make. Disney bought the franchise to make the Star Wars movies that the Star Wars fans want Disney to make.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 15:46 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Ugh we really don't need to rehash old locations. Why not? The new Episodes are rehashing everything else.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2017 00:21 |
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The line is taken out of context, which is probably just LUKE: Maybe it's time for the Jedi to end. REY: No! You can't! Kylo Ren killed Han Solo! LUKE: Oh, that's not good. Ok, it's not time for the Jedi to end.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 02:41 |
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FuturePastNow posted:Luke's options were: He also could have tried talking to him You know, like he successfully did with Darth Vader
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 18:28 |
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FuturePastNow posted:maybe he killed Luke's wife and dumped their baby on a desert planet somewhere, huh maybe talking to him is an option regardless of what he did
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 20:14 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:His movies where he has total control suck so bad and why "Idea man" isnt a real job anyone will pay you to be I thought ESB was actually pretty good . . .
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 22:14 |
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roffels posted:He didn't direct that one. basic hitler posted:Lucas didn't have full control over ESB and he didn't direct, and it's the best movie in the series precisely because he had to listen to anyone else while making the movie. Do you know what directors do? Do you understand why the "director's cut" is released after the movie has been in the theater?
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 03:20 |
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roffels posted:Yes. What are you trying to communicate by asking these questions? banned from Starbucks posted:90% of "directors cuts" are "lets reinsert a buncha poo poo scenes that were rightfully cut in the first place and get morons to buy this movie a second time." Directors usually do not have the final cut. That Lucas was not directing is nearly irrelevant; the director gives direction to the actors as to how to interpret the scene. In this case, the not-Lucas director (Kershner) was giving directions to the actors on how to interpret scenes from the story that Lucas wrote, for final approval by Lucas. Lucas is the alpha and the omega of all Star Wars except ANH. He had total control over what appeared in theaters, because he financed it. If he didn't like what somebody did, he could refuse to include it in his movies. There was nobody -- literally nobody -- that he "had to listen to" for ESB.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 03:41 |
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empty baggie posted:Lucas wrote the story of ESB but didn't write the screenplay, and was an executive producer and not the director. The whole reason ESB was so good is because Lucas didn't direct. The whole reason why the prequels sucked is because Lucas directed. They had the cast of a lifetime, but his direction ruined it all. Even if the writing was crap, a decent director with that cast could have turned it around. The stories he wrote were good, but his direction was garbage. Lucas had total control over the movie. Total control is not synonymous with "doing everything himself." He wrote the story, directed the art, oversaw the storyboards, oversaw the set design, oversaw the creature creation and modeling, and could cut from the film literally anything he didn't think was good enough (and did!). This is the critical chasm in the George Lucas Killed My Childhood brain damage you have: he had final cut and oversaw everything along the way. There is no plausible explanation for the final cut being good in your fantasy of director primacy. A bad director with bad taste who is also a bad editor with final cut will produce utter garbage movies, because he or she doesn't have to listen to anybody and doesn't know good from bad. You are really overestimating the impact of the director in the Hollywood system. It is an important job, yes, but really about on par with the editor and the lead actor in terms of how enjoyable the movie is going to be, and that's before studio meddling in the final cut (sound work and soundtrack are also tied for a close second, but they are still in second because you can make great movies with no sound). Great lead actors can overcome crap directors (The Sixth Sense, The Rock), especially with a great story and script. The Empire Strikes Back set in modern-day Edmonton on a $10k budget is going to be mediocre at best, even with top actors working for free: the visual storytelling and effects (all Lucas!) carry the load in ESB more than any movie in the OT.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 15:21 |
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Perestroika posted:That seems to disregard the possibility that there are many factors that can make for a good scene that are not directly related to Lucas' "vision". Lucas says "do it like X", the director delivers something that includes X, but everything aside from and around that X is still better than what Lucas himself might be able to direct personally. Yes, and then do that a thousand times or so. You have a thousand good sunsets by an artist and a thousand poo poo ones by you. Then give the results to a judge to pick the best 500 for a gallery showing. If you have a good judge, it will probably be mostly good sunsets; if the judge is blind, they will be terrible. In your analogy, George Lucas is the person hiring the artist (control), asking them to come up with some concepts each of the compositional elements (control), choosing the ones he likes (control); the artist draws more than he needs, and he selects the ones he wants for the gallery showing (control). This does not mean that everything good in the movie came from George Lucas, but anything good in the movie would not still be there for you to see without his thinking it was good.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 23:49 |
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Senor Tron posted:Hmm, yes. We saw this well when Leia told Han to go and bring their son home because she wants to believe there is still good in him. Yeah, but at the end of Return of the Jedi you are being dumb
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 05:31 |
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Cross-Section posted:A couple of LEGO sets leaked, got some new character deets out of them And Snoke wears a romper. Everything old is even older again.
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# ¿ May 27, 2017 01:44 |
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Dave Syndrome posted:Lumpy and Itchy. I wish I had thought of this post.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 22:19 |
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thrawn527 posted:Looks that way. What's the alternative? "not human" duh
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2017 19:32 |
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ChickenMedium posted:Star Wars 9 will be a remake of Romancing the Stone. ... I would watch that.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2017 00:24 |
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I wonder whether they would dare make Snoke's wealth and power come from the sale of x-wings and TIE fighters
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2017 20:28 |
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BarronsArtGallery posted:psssst want me to blow your mind? Mark Hamill has said as much, that he realized during ANH that his character was the George Lucas self-insert, and just had to act the way George suggested.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 17:36 |
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Barudak posted:A group of Porgs is a Porgy A Porgy is Best
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2017 02:35 |
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porfiria posted:The New Order Hits in Response The only hit I can think of right now is "Blue Monday", I dunno about hits-plural.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2017 21:28 |
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Vintersorg posted:You don't know anything about music HTH The power to claim superior knowledge of 80s rock music is insignificant compared to the power of the Force
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2017 20:02 |
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Wank posted:For some reason I imagined them being voiced by Keith David. For some reason I hoped they'd be voiced by Larry David.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2017 14:26 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 07:53 |
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What Disney seems to have "learned" from Episodes I-VI is that Star Wars means "creepy old man who sits on a throne, calling the shots until our heroes can take him out." I really hope it's not Starkiller Base:Death Star::Snoke:Sheev
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2017 21:18 |