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jet sanchEz posted:I find this very interesting, I presume Saskatchewan appealed the ruling? It never made sense to me that transit is an essential service----cops and EMS and doctors, sure, but a bus driver? A lot of people need to take the bus to work. If they can't work, they can't get paid. They can't afford to take a taxi across Toronto in rush hour. If they can't get paid, they can't eat food or heat the house. Speaking of doctors, Ontario's are launching a charter challenge to get binding arbitration like doctors enjoy in 8 other provinces. Ontario MDs plan charter challenge against provincial government quote:Ontario doctors plan to launch a charter challenge against the provincial government, which has twice this year unilaterally cut their pay.
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THC posted:Gay people who contribute to oppressive political movements should be criticized imo. You called?
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flakeloaf posted:Acting against your group's interests still makes you a giant hypocrite and kind of a shithead whether you're waving their banner or not. Maybe he considers his primary group to be conservatives and not gay people?
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Furnaceface posted:I (and I think 2 other posters here) ended up with this wingnut who only 5 short years ago literally cheated his way into the Conservative party because they didnt want him to begin with. At least he only won by like 200 votes so Barrie-Innisfil might finally be considered a swing riding instead of a conservative safe haven. You would have preferred Rod Jackson?
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Oct 27, 2015 04:54
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Toronto is leaking on the rest of the province again. http://business.financialpost.com/p...nd-transfer-tax quote:The province is set to give all municipalities the right to double the amount of land transfer tax you'll pay on your next real estate deal.
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Helsing posted:The Land Transfer Tax is a good policy. Well excuuuse us for believing a school teacher could do a good job. Joke's on you though, rural people move into a place and never leave. It's city people who move into a 700 sq ft condo and then realize they can't raise a kid there so they buy a townhouse and then the house is too small and crime too high and he gets a promotion so they move again out to the suburbs. I think municipal land transfer tax is dumb because they already have municipal property tax. If they need more, just raise that and tax everybody, why the extra tax on people who are moving? People generally don't move houses just for fun, it isn't a consumption tax. You also raise the barrier to new homebuyers aka potential property tax payers. And it's an extra tax on seniors downgrading and makes them more likely to stay in their home forever so you plebes never get to buy them and are forced to rent or live in the suburbs oh now I like this tax.
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jm20 posted:Anything that actively depresses house flippers and real estate speculating is good policy imo. Has it done that in any meaningful way in Toronto?
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The most adorable criticism of a gay person in the thread so far.
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jm20 posted:Did you also vote Harper? I voted for the guy who was going to balance the federal budget and reward job creators by reducing small business tax by 2%.
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Furnaceface posted:Opinions are fine as long as youre willing to debate them. Swagger is not open to debating anything, he shits out his god awful opinions on everything without any facts or reasoning and when confronted about it disappears for weeks in hopes that the topic has moved on. I was honestly wondering. I know the Jacksons personally, they've all been pretty cool over the years. Also this. 
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flakeloaf posted:Serious question, at what point does the Sun run so far afoul of basic journalistic standards that someone holds them to account? The same time the Toronto Star starts posting articles like this under Opinion instead of News. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/10/22/its-been-a-terrible-decade-under-stephen-harper-porter.html
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flakeloaf posted:Oh, okay. Journalism's just like that now. Cool. I'd actually argue that it's people that are like that now. Newspapers don't influence readers, readers influence papers. People will buy the paper that reinforces their world view. As people got more polaraized by Harper, so did the papers. They're an outdated medium precariously teetering on the edge of profitability so you kind of expect them to pander to their readers and be a bit biased. 
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Helsing posted:While I don't entirely disagree with this analysis I think you're overlooking the extent to which unprofitable newspapers are maintained by their owners so that they can be used to influence political outcomes. For instance, if the Toronto Sun (or the Globe for that matter) was exclusively catering to the bias of it's readers then why would it continually endorse a party that has only won a single seat in Toronto (that it held for less than a full term) since 1999? If I were running a paper in the GTA, would I want to compete with the Toronto Star for progressive readers or would I go for the slightly smaller but competition free market of conservative minded GTA readers? You don't need to go after the biggest market to make money, lots of people make money by going after smaller ones that have less competition. I wouldn't imagine the Star lost money over attacking Rob Ford, people were eating that up. I'd need to see some real numbers at least. I'm also not saying they're entirely biased and you're not saying they're entirely unbiased just that economic realities mean we should keep in mind while reading that they're probably biasing themselves to their readership a little bit. Even the Globe's
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OSI bean dip posted:Modo also serves from Surrey to North Vancouver--Victoria too. Square km to linear km?
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Here's an unbiased update on the current Wynnanigans, $3.74m in secret payments to unions and getting bigger every day. The nature of net zero negotiations of course means that this money comes from other areas of the already strained education budget. The globe releases info showing the government paid a couple of teacher unions $1m directly. The OLP says that the $1m was to help offset extra costs incurred by the union because of the new negotiating process. The opposition says that's a suspiciously round number, what the heck? OLP education minister says that they don't need receipts, they know what boardrooms and pizza cost. Globe uncovers that the payments to unions go all the way back to 2008, before the new negotiating process, totalling $2.5m this year and $1.24m last two rounds to unions and the rest to school boards. The opposition is pretty pissed because the amount given carte blanche is pretty close to what the unions have donated to OLP and spent advertising against their opponents Wynne now says that the payments haven't gone out yet and of course they require receipts. The opposition calls for auditor general inquiry... which has to be voted on by all parties including the majority OLP. MonsieurChoc posted:While dumping a ton of waste into the river is bad, getting rid of that industrial wasteland is good and it's not like the river isn't polluted already. leftists.txt Rime posted:If you drink the disgusting piss swill known as "beer", you deserve what you get in life anyways (a fat gut and an empty wallet). Straight Vodka or a finely aged Mead like a respectable adult. That is the opposite of respectable adult. That's pony tail having, trenchcoat wearing, holden caulfield acting 10 years later than is appropriate talk. Respectable adults don't care what other people drink.
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jsoh posted:from what that guy said it looks like they are giving that money to the union which then gives it to the party. so its spending public money to campaign, which is al ot worse than the union getting bought i think That's what the opposition is saying but it's obviously impossible to prove. Some money flows in to the union from the OLP and other money flows out to political campaigning. It's annoying but it's not illegal. I think the unions look especially bad to the teachers. Interestingly, one union, the ETFO, the one who is going to be docked pay if they don't call off work to rule, is the only union who hasn't ever accepted any cash from the OLP. Good on them.
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Oct 29, 2015 15:10
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jm20 posted:Hammond is a moron and ETFO will end up with less than OECTA and OSSTF like last time. Docking the unionized members pay will just to them filing for conciliation and striking 5 days afterwards. What would you do if you were Sam Hammond?
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Oct 29, 2015 15:22
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jm20 posted:Seppuku, or just accept the same offer as the other teachers. Without unity you have no leverage. What's the point of having separate unions then? I thought their big issue was that the large class sizes are a lot harder to manage for elementary teachers than they are for secondary, that makes sense to me? Isn't it ultimately up to the teachers too? Hammond must have a pretty good idea of what they want. His union is 50,000 teachers, I'd think his leverage is fine.
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RBC posted:The unions needs to and should have a real strike, there's no question. All these shenanigans from Wynne are because they've shown they're unwilling to do it. Work to rule isn't enough. They should have done it the first week of back in September. Time for an armed revolution imo. I love how Wynne is just blatantly ignoring the advice of the financial accountability officer she appointed in the position she created to prevent bad decisions like this. ‘It’s going,’ Wynne says of Hydro One sale despite watchdog warning quote:Premier Kathleen Wynne is sticking to her plan to sell off Hydro One to bankroll transportation infrastructure despite a damaging report to the legislature from the budget watchdog. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Oct 29, 2015 |
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Jordan7hm posted:drat right. Eliminate corporate tax, massively increase personal income tax for those above the median. So you advocate abolishing tax on the profits of corporations and making that up by massively increasing personal income tax on people making above $30,000?
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jm20 posted:This is the Nordic model But I want to work extra hard and make lots of money?
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Jordan7hm posted:Median not average. But yes. I am hugely in favour of significantly higher marginal tax rates for top income brackets. Of which I would argue we should have significantly more. quote:while the median individual income is just $27,600. That means just as many individuals earn less than $27,600 as earn more. You guys are nuts, our politicians waste so much of the tax money we give them, I don't see how you can honestly advocate giving them more. Albino Squirrel posted:So, their stated goal is to fund infrastructure by.... selling off infrastructure? Profitable infrastructure at that? Yep, you and 83% of Ontarians see this clearly is a bad deal. My two theories are a) Cronyism. Wynne's proved that she's not immune from it, quickly hiring her brother in law to head our electronic health records system and appointing the lady she ran for leadership against, who graciously stepped down, to the board of Hydro One. Our last Liberal premiere resigned and came back to Ontario 12 months later to lobby on behalf of a company that he'd given millions to while in office. If I was her, I wouldn't count on getting re-elected so it's nice to have a private sector fallback. The ex-TD president privatization guru is working for goddamn free to advise her. b) Our financial situation. We're $300b in debt, paying $11b in interest alone per year. GDP growth is slow and green energy is crippling manufacturing. If we get more credit downgrades or if interest rates go up, we're in a really bad spot in terms of borrowing costs. We may actually be so far in debt that it's time to start burning the furniture to heat the house. c) They've also already promised shares to the hydro workers union so it's kind of hard to back out of now. infernal machines posted:Because the banker they hired to tell them how to gut the province said to do it, so come hell or high water they're going to do it, no matter how little sense it appears to make. OPC never wanted to sell the majority share of it and they had a majority, they could have sold it when they had the chance. The banker also originally said don't sell it until Wynne changed the panel's mandate. This is probably the more intelligent article Albino Squirrel is looking for rather than my rantings. http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2015/04/20/how-hydro-one-ended-up-on-the-auction-block-cohn.html posted:The advice from Ed Clark to Kathleen Wynne was unequivocal: Hydro One’s electrical wires are too strategic to privatize. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Oct 29, 2015 |
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Coolwhoami posted:There in theory will be some return of this in the form of corporate taxes and capital gains, but not a ton. In the debt case it is felt quickly and can be seen as "reckless borrowing", the corporation sale can be positioned as "necessary and fiscally responsible". The FAO calculated the corp tax returns into his report today. 
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 Gonna raise 3b for infrastructure instead of 4 at this rate http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/canada-s-hydro-one-utility-said-to-raise-c-1-66-billion-in-ipo
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Yep, his intelligence and education is why the Liberals chose Trudeau over Garneau.
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eXXon posted:Where does the current sale price lie, closer to the first or second case? Closer to the low end. quote:the FAO estimates the proceeds of Hydro One to be $11–$14.3 billion quote:The sale gives Ontario’s largest electricity transmission and distribution company a market value of C$12.2 billion, based on 595 million shares outstanding Way below the OLP's secret spring valuation quote:In April 2015, the council estimated the value of Hydro One at $13.5–$15 billion and way below the $16 billion they were selling us this summer, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/hydro-one-ontarios-privatization-plan-explained/article24743446/ quote:If it goes through, it will be one of the largest privatizations of a government asset in a generation in Canada. The current valuation of Hydro One is about $15-billion to $16-billion. Sucks they exaggerated the value of a multi billion dollar asset by 30% but Libs gonna Lib (copyright THC 2015). Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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RBC posted:ontario doctors apparently believe they are entitled by the charter of rights to make boatloads of money lmao What a bunch of babies, whining that they're entitled to binding arbitration like doctors in 8 other provinces are. They should just take whatever scraps the province throws them, times are tough, they're lazy and easily replaceable.
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RBC posted:i agree completely Fire them all and replace them with midwives and homeopaths imo.
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jm20 posted:If there is no money for teachers/nurses, why should other public sector workers get raises? They aren't asking for raises, they're asking to not have their fees cut by 2.6% and again by another 1.3% in one year. Edit: And teachers and OPP officers did get raises
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RBC posted:open up med schools and recidencies to what the market can bear imo. stop protecting privileged doctors by artificially limiting the supply then they'll really start whining You'll be glad to know the OLP went in completely the opposite direction, http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/10/ontario-residency-cuts_n_7968326.html
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Gorau posted:I vote we follow the NHS. All doctors are now government employees, none of this payed contractor poo poo. Doctors bitch and moan that they need to make 350k a year so they can pay for their office and staff. I say we solve the problem for them: they become employees of the government, government takes over all the other expenses, and doctors make 125k a year. Still vastly more than the population, but probably much more reasonable then they're making now. As an added bonus, doctors can now be incentivized to actually think about what tests/procedures/treatments they recommend and actually put the patient first instead of ordering a ton of redundant/unnecessary tests that costs the health system a ton of money and only serves to pad the doctors bottom line through fee for service. Haha yeah let me do a minimum of 10 years of tough post secondary so I can make 125k a year working my rear end off because apparently I'm retarded. Isentropy posted:better them than the "administrators" and "managers" and various political mucky muck jobs that seem to get these sorts of salaries instead. This is the problem with our health care budget right now, y'all are hosed in the head if you think it's the doctors getting paid too much that's the issue. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sohail-gandhi/ontario-needs-doctors-and-nurses_b_8291598.html quote:As I have come to appreciate, there has been an explosion in bureaucracy over the past 12 years in Ontario Health Care. Most of it has been because the government has set up various "arms length" agencies such as the LHIN's, eHealth, Health Quality Ontario (HQO), CCAC and so on, rather than simply accept responsibility for these tasks under the MOH. From a politicians point of view, this gave them the ability to defer criticism for any decisions by saying such and such agency is "independent." For the most part, for a Liberal politician, this worked -- they did win four elections in a row. But it certainly hasn't helped the patients any. RBC posted:is there an actual argument in here. are you saying you are against a 6% pay cut for doctors fees and think its a good idea that a fake professional union is suing the government under the charter of rights for cutting their fees Yes man, I'm against the government dictating a 6% pay cut to doctors (who can't strike) where they have no recourse to even an arbitration. Trees and Squids posted:Are there actually doctors making a pathetic, dirt, $110k a year? The average Canadian doctor's salary is around $300K, that's a pretty big discrepancy. You know that's before they pay their secretary, support staff, office space, office equipment, education debts, ongoing education costs and all other expenses right?
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Gorau posted:My point was that they 125k would be a salary, they wouldn't be responsible for any other expenses. It may be a tad low, but its probably close to what doctors take home now anyway. A tad low? I can make 90k as an OPP officer with no post secondary after 3 years on the job or 95k as a school teacher with a bachelor degree in lesbian basket weaving and 2 year B.Ed and I'm only working 8 hours a day, 9 months a year. RBC posted:The acceptance rate for med school is like 6%. There's no shortage of people who want to "endure" ten years of school for a guarantee of a large income and untouchable job security. I think it's closer to 15% but yeah, part of the allure is the high pay. You're right though, we should open up the system. Let in way more doctors so capitalism can sort it out. To accomplish that, make the med schools for profit enterprises, there's no reason we should be subsidizing these future money havers. If there is such a demand for it, more schools should open to accept the volume. Then we can also stop subsidizing health care because there'll be a guy on every street corner qualified to take out your appendix. Capitalism 
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 accountability quote:On November 4, the Premier will travel to China on a trade mission, where she will be joined by several Ontario business delegations. From November 5 to 14, Premier Wynne will travel to Nanjing, Shanghai, Beijing and Hong Kong quote:The Toronto Stock Exchange has conditionally approved the shares. Hydro One is expected to start trading on the Toronto Stock Exchange on Nov. 5, 2015.
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vyelkin posted:L The best part quote:For NHL players considering playing in Toronto, establishing U.S. residency can be easier because the Leafs tend not to make playoffs, allowing players to get back to the U.S. in April. U.S. residency is harder to maintain for players with the Canadiens, whose season is more likely to be extended by playoffs
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cowofwar posted:Unfortunately doctors have historical privilege in being a protected class of elites. Doctors were children of the upper class exclusively. They still have a lot of entitlement issues and don't think of themselves as middle class trades workers who independently contract (aside from salaried positions). It's not often that you see an entire post that is wrong but here we are. The dividends don't make a huge difference, here's an example. Yeah, they can dividend out to family members but so can any small corporation and you still need to pay corp tax on that at a minimum. I don't think it's the huge tax loophole you're making it out to be. 
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Isn't just scanning the land titles database for Chinese sounding names a little fluffy to use as evidence for anything?
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How do you leave Rona Ambrose off that list?
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Cultural Imperial posted:Hey SJW refugee lovers, defend this pls A Canadian is a Canadian is a Somalian is a Canadian.
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Slightly Toasted posted:Omg our health minister is an actual Doctor what is this witchcraft Ontario has a doctor for health minister as well. Unfortunately, he skipped proctology day so we continue to be a broke rear end province with pissed off doctors and nurses. Luckily, Trudeau isn't going down the same massive spending road that the OLP did to put us in this position.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Reporters are literal scum Can't really blame Harper not talking to them eh?
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