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richardfun posted:I haven't followed this story too closely, but how the hell is firing into a crowd not considered attempted murder? The victims were protesting police and prosecutorial actions
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Epic High Five posted:He never released the name of the pastors, does he believe that there's some kind of Negro Hive mind they tapped into to get the warning out to every single pastor in America or something? I am sure their are a few evenglical/baptist black pastors who would side with him, but they are more likly to throw their vote behind huckabee or cruz because a decent amount of evangelicals/baptists/right leaning christians surprisingly see through trumps bullshit.
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richardfun posted:I haven't followed this story too closely, but how the hell is firing into a crowd not considered attempted murder? You shouldn't be a fan of felony murder let alone felony attempted murder.
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richardfun posted:I haven't followed this story too closely, but how the hell is firing into a crowd not considered attempted murder? because the crowed probably did chase and rough them up a bit. probably because the /k/ boys were being racist pricks.
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Nov 30, 2015 22:56
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hobbesmaster posted:You shouldn't be a fan of felony murder let alone felony attempted murder. Firing into a crowd and killing someone isn't felony murder, it's regular murder.
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Nov 30, 2015 22:57
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evilweasel posted:Firing into a crowd and killing someone isn't felony murder, it's regular murder. For one of the people charged, correct? I was under the impression there was one gun.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:because the crowed probably did chase and rough them up a bit. probably because the /k/ boys were being racist pricks. They are presently incarcerated, imprisoned for a crime they did not even commit. "Attempted murder," now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for "attempted chemistry?"
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hobbesmaster posted:For one of the people charged, correct? The person who says he fired into the crowd hasn't been charged with attempted murder, which is what I assume the person was complaining about - none have been charged with attempted murder (yet). Charging people who didn't shoot but participated, now that would basically be felony attempted murder (if such a charge exists, and I don't think it does) - but as long as one of them fired at least one of them is guilty of attempted murder.
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Fried Chicken posted:They are presently incarcerated, imprisoned for a crime they did not even commit. "Attempted murder," now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for "attempted chemistry?" I received a package in the mail that was labelled "Nobel Prize for Attempted Theoretical Physics" but I haven't opened it yet, so I guess you could say that they both have and haven't
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:If the PP shooter is assessed as incapable of standing trial then there won't be a trial, right? He won't get his day in court and the media can ascribe any motives they like to him. Is that correct? This is extremely unlikely to happen, but if he is ruled incompetent to stand trial then they'll pump him full of pills and counsel him on what the trial would involve until he is fit. This happened to Loughner. Fried Chicken posted:a post about history of monetary policy books that is really long I have some primary sources from the relevant eras if you're interested in that Amergin posted:Out of left field: Does anyone know a way to get information on a company (such as executive compensation, number of employees, other seemingly basic things) if the company has made use of the "safe harbor" SEC rule 506? Work for their accounting department. Or the IRS and audit them. Sue them in a relevant manner and conduct discovery. Ask them. The whole point of the safe harbors is so they don't have to do detailed financial disclosures and some of that information you want isn't even required to be disclosed. Executive compensation (ratio of executive compensation to median employee salary) won't be required until 2017 because the previous rule got struck down. Alternatively if they solicit your investment and you are not a millionaire they would have to disclose the general information expected in a prospectus which often includes number of personnel.
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Actually in this specific case I could see why not sharing the persons motive etc.. is a good thing as you may run the risk of copycat attacks.
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Hollismason posted:Actually in this specific case I could see why not sharing the persons motive etc.. is a good thing as you may run the risk of copycat attacks. I got the impression that the guy wasn't necessarily coherent enough to explain his motives. It sounded like he rambled on about a whole bunch of poo poo, and the cops weren't willing to discuss it until they'd figured out what the heck he was trying to say.
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Easily my favorite Clinton email released so far.
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In which the Secretary of State can't figure out how to watch Homeland.
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My Imaginary GF posted:The best way to keep Germans down is to commit to freedom of the press and free & fair elections. delete your account
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Joementum posted:Easily my favorite Clinton email released so far. Haha I bet Hillary mega hates Newt, that's a super tame epithet for him, coming from her.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I give you, Forbes! So if I'm reading that article correctly, the thesis is basically that Sanders is...a fake socialist? That he's secretly on the side of the rich and that this is also a bad thing?  quote:Interesting about this is that to look at the Republicans vying for the GOP nomination, just about every single one (arguably to the detriment of every American worker, rich or poor) has called for erasing federal income taxes on the lowest earners Detriment? I thought someone like him would support erasing federal income taxes for the poor? I mean, isn't that what he's complaining about Sanders? That he's not focusing on actual poor people, supposedly? quote:, all the while maintaining the highest rates for those whom Sanders would deem rich. Maintaining taxes on the rich? The gently caress is this douche talking about? There's not a single Republican that hasn't proposed lowering taxes on the rich. quote:Sanders seeks even higher rates of taxation on the “rich.” What this should signal to the rest of us is that Republicans and Democrats are in a fight over who will tax the rich the most. More explicitly it tells us that both major political parties aren’t exactly seeking favor with the wealthy. Haha, yes. The Republicans sure as hell aren't seeking favor of the wealthy. All those trillions in revenue from tax cuts and deregulating the hell out of everything, oh yeah, I bet the richies just hate that. And again, what the gently caress is this douche talking about? He spends most of the article whining that Sanders is hanging out in wealthy areas with the people he claims to despise, yet also wants to tax them way more than Republicans, and thus he's a fake socialist? 
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Sure they'd lower the taxes on poors by trashing minimum wage so everybody makes below the income tax threshold.
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The attempted ratfucking of Trump begins
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"middle of the pack in the polls" heh
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The fact that the right believes that taxes are the #1 problem the working poor face is depressing, but not nearly as much as the fact that they've convinced so many working poor that this is correctCrain posted:Unlike Carson, Donald Trump is smart enough to know that a good writer shouldn't ever show the monster. Nothing he can say in a stump speech is as racist as what his supporters can conjure from their own imaginations. This is the sort of approach that allowed Trump to steal the base away from the GOPe though, and probably what Cruz is angling to do to him when/if The Trumpinator's numbers start slipping. Cruz, after all, has "kill all gays" and "PP is responsible when you, my beautiful base, crack and shoot a bunch of cops and civilians" on his side. Not sure how much that helps him though, I've been noticing a split between religious issue voters I know and their usual mouthpieces lately that seems to be growing in the wake of the PP shooting. "Abortion is wrong but this isn't okay, ever" versus "LOOK WHAT THOSE LIBERALS DID AGAIN"
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Freep turned on Carson when he pulled the CNN 'truth in the middle' card. No one is safe from the GOP base's endless hatred.
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zoux posted:It's alphabetical though? Yeah, I was gonna say this is alphabetical by last name, how exactly is the SC GOP trying to gently caress over Trump here?
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Thump! posted:Yeah, I was gonna say this is alphabetical by last name, how exactly is the SC GOP trying to gently caress over Trump here? Trump: "just how these guys aren't trying to bamboozle me?"
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Thump! posted:Yeah, I was gonna say this is alphabetical by last name, how exactly is the SC GOP trying to gently caress over Trump here? Oh I'm sure that's he'll cast it, I'm just frowning at the clickbait headline "TRUMP LAST ON BALLOT" ignoring all the context.
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Thump! posted:Yeah, I was gonna say this is alphabetical by last name, how exactly is the SC GOP trying to gently caress over Trump here? Actually, who is listed first is a big deal, but usually only in very low interest elections. Lots of people just pick the first name when they don't know the candidates, or stop at the first one they like when reading the list. It can particularly screw over lesser known independent candidates. In Washington state, the order is randomized to make up for this. It's probably not really going to be an effect in such a high profile ejection. Here's an article on it: http://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/first_among_equals
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Catholic Hospital Argues Fetuses Are Not People In Malpractice Suit Look the pro-life crowd is very serious and sincere about punishment being dealt out to people who transgress on the lives of the unborn I mean unless it inconveniences them in any way
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Jagchosis posted:Work for their accounting department. Or the IRS and audit them. Sue them in a relevant manner and conduct discovery. Ask them. The whole point of the safe harbors is so they don't have to do detailed financial disclosures and some of that information you want isn't even required to be disclosed. Executive compensation (ratio of executive compensation to median employee salary) won't be required until 2017 because the previous rule got struck down. Alternatively if they solicit your investment and you are not a millionaire they would have to disclose the general information expected in a prospectus which often includes number of personnel. Thanks Jag - I wanted to do some digging on that exact thing (ratio to median salary) along with general compensation to try and argue that an oil and gas pipeline company with ~22% profit margins that just increased monthly revenue on ONE of our pipes by ~$10 million (which, according to the CEO, should pay for itself in about half a year) shouldn't need to almost double the cost of the high deductible health insurance plan offered (making the price delta between that and low deductible negligible). Along with changing the coffee to a cheaper brand. ... Along with changing the toilet paper to a cheaper brand. ... Along with no longer providing boxes of Kleenex and paper towels. I tried to take a look at our SEC filings but the main company with any info available apparently doesn't actually employ anyone, and the CEO's compensation for THAT company is only $500,000 (with ~$1.2 million in bonuses). That can't be right for a guy with a private jet and multiple houses (including a large one in Breckenridge) but maybe I'm overestimating those costs.  One fun side project dead in the crib.
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Epic High Five posted:Catholic Hospital Argues Fetuses Are Not People In Malpractice Suit This should be a fun story.
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Mr Interweb posted:This should be a fun story.
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foobardog posted:It's probably not really going to be an effect in such a high profile ejection. 
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hobbesmaster posted:For one of the people charged, correct? There was probably more than one gun, these guys met on 4chan's weapons board. Only one was fired and the shooter confessed to the shooting to a ton of people. The people that didn't shoot are getting a riot charge.
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Joementum posted:In which the Secretary of State can't figure out how to watch Homeland. I know Hillary is literally a grandma, but this is great and totally my grandma.
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Mr Interweb posted:This should be a fun story. It happened almost three years ago and people were mad for like two days and then no one cared. The State Supreme Court refused to review the case with no comment and it went away. Edit: Looked at the wrong decision.
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Epic High Five posted:Catholic Hospital Argues Fetuses Are Not People In Malpractice Suit Their lawyers are arguing that, under the law, fetuses are not considered persons. This is completely correct and totally noncontroversial. It makes a nice soundbite but there's no hypocrisy here.
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The Larch posted:Their lawyers are arguing that, under the law, fetuses are not considered persons. This is completely correct and totally noncontroversial. It makes a nice soundbite but there's no hypocrisy here. It's 100% legal and sensible It's also 100% at odds with everything they stand for and have petitioned the courts to recognize and grant them all kinds of snowflake exceptions for. If they want to petition that unborn babies aren't people then they shouldn't have any issues paying for their employees birth control or abortions now can't they? I hope they get hammered with lawsuits for just that if they take this defense all the way.
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Epic High Five posted:Catholic Hospital Argues Fetuses Are Not People In Malpractice Suit My guess here is that the hospital has malpractice insurance. Because the malpractice insurer is paying the bill if the hospital loses, it can require the hospital to mount the best defense possible (or just outright control the defense) - that a fetus isn't a person under US law. To leave that argument out would probably require the hospital waive its malpractice insurance - and then the doctors themselves would probably be making it anyway.
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Here is a local article about the outcome of that case: http://www.coloradoindependent.com/127655/colorado-supreme-court-punts-on-fetal-rights-rejects-catholic-health-case
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foobardog posted:Actually, who is listed first is a big deal, but usually only in very low interest elections. Lots of people just pick the first name when they don't know the candidates, or stop at the first one they like when reading the list. It can particularly screw over lesser known independent candidates. That makes sense. I guess I was just wondering "Who the hell doesn't know who Donald Trump is at this point who is also going to vote in the primary election?" I'm assuming that answer is very few people.
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