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The biggest issue with getting more efficient in our consumption is whether that efficiency will be offset by population growth. The projected estimates for world population have us hitting 9.7 billion by 2050. The planet cannot support a Western lifestyle for 10 billion people. It can't even support it for the West, currently, so quality of life in the West will have to decline at some point. This isn't to say we shouldn't get more efficient, we obviously should so that we can curb emissions to the max, but the Western lifestyle as it currently exists is untenable.
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Aug 17, 2018 05:12
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Polio Vax Scene posted:I suspect eventually the media will coin the "War on Climate Change" - which, based on the wars on Drugs and Terrorism, won't go so well. Yeah we're already seeing some of that: https://twitter.com/PascoSheriff/status/906712903868469249
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Aug 18, 2018 02:39
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Accretionist posted:Will our ancestors think we should've been violently agitating already? For punitive carbon taxes, bans on certain goods and services, elimination of beef subsidies, etc. I mean, yeah? Beef subsidies and bans on certain goods and services are like no brainers despite the political pushback we might see. Oil subsidies too. We have the money and logistical structures to subsidize whatever tech we want and what do we spend it on? Bovine fart machines and oil.
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Aug 18, 2018 19:25
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What a time to be alive
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avshalemon posted:i've asked this several times and got no answer but i'll ask again, are any of you actually doing anything or are you just sitting in your air-conditioned city apartments going DURR HURR about poo poo you have never seen firsthand and know absolutely nothing about i am attempting to breed chickens that have no eyes. eyes are the window to the soul and we have allowed our sinful souls to escape through them. they fled into the world, increasing its temperature and reducing the prevalence of the spiritual balance of nature, leading to the increased temperatures. chickens are an ideal test bird because their little dinosaur souls don't add to the harm already caused. once i have achieved my goal the chickens will grow to ten times the size due to internal soul pressure, solving all meat problems for all time as they will immediately turn on humanity and devour us in their blind and justified ancient rage.
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Oct 2, 2018 14:25
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Nocturtle posted:One striking feature the table makes clear is the relatively large size of the uncertainties wrt the actual carbon budget values. The report states this clearly: HahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   
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Oct 8, 2018 18:39
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Trabisnikof posted:Yes, this is basically the form of argument that denialism will take in the final stages. Haha, "final stages". quote:Last month, deep in a 500-page environmental impact statement, the Trump administration made a startling assumption: On its current course, the planet will warm a disastrous seven degrees by the end of this century.
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Oct 9, 2018 04:43
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barkbell posted:Is hunting all your own meat a good compromise? Hunting uses more calories which then causes more meat to be eaten. The ethical action is to lay motionless on the floor and have a nutrient slurry piped directly to your veins, bypassing the grossly inefficient human gut. In the climate utopia, all digestion will be performed offsite in industrial bioreactors that take in garbage and put out actual bricks of carbon and the nutritious delight we've come to call Al Gore's Warning.
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Oct 17, 2018 15:43
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humanity's greatest achievement being the killing of 90% of the species we came in contact with then seems like a decent legacy to me. we are like deadly radiation that other critters are stuck with! Beware of moderate levels of sentience, of scarcity driven evolution, of bipedal savanna primates, for these are not things that honor life. No highly esteemed creature is commemorated here. Nothing valued is here. What is here is dangerous and repulsive to life. The danger is in a particular species… it increases towards agriculture… the center of danger is here… of a particular complexity and ignorance, and around us. The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the world, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy. The danger is unleashed only if you substantially evolve in this place. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
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Oct 18, 2018 17:22
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Monaghan posted:It'd be nice if it actually managed to stay on budget. Budget isn't the problem, not really. The US has spent over a trillion dollars over 30 years on a plane that cannot even fly. We just don't care.
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Oct 19, 2018 04:12
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AceOfFlames posted:OK, I am breaking the drat toxx because who the hell cares. I have seen this topic pervade other threads so more money for Lowtax's spine I guess. 
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Oct 28, 2018 16:59
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Epitope posted:Does this subject make people depressed? Or does it just attract the sad sacks and give them a real world justification for the feelings they have (and would have regardless) Oh yeah it makes loads of people depressed. I'm more of an optimist. We are #blessed to live in this time of rapid and exciting change that we are unlikely to ever experience again! The kids ten years old and younger will pine for our age when they finally realize just what has become of their world. The nations washed beneath the waves, the millions starving and dead and warring, the innovative diseases being workshopped in the bodies of antibiotically enhanced hormone based cattle that will disrupt the immune system marketplace! Humanity has had a rather minuscule run of only ~200,000 years (pathetic compared to the humble frog which emerged ~300 million years ago) but an extremely outsized effect. We will imprint the human skeleton as the specter of death on the immutable psyche of future sapient creatures due to our skill and drive to kill all creatures, large and small. Amazing! #BigDeathEnergy
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Oct 28, 2018 19:06
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Evil_Greven posted:Yeah, this ain't hyperbole folks: Governments aren't going to prepare except insofar as to stab other countries and steal their poo poo.
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Oct 29, 2018 05:01
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Oh and murder their own vulnerable populations.
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Oct 29, 2018 05:12
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Nice piece of fish posted:By the way this thread should have a cat or dog tax. Just to cheer us the gently caress up in general. https://i.imgur.com/cR2tlNx.gifv
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Oct 29, 2018 16:14
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Yeah, well, we offered socialism as an alternative to barbary and you americans rejected it. We're pragmatists, we have no time for continental nonsense like fairness or justice or peace.
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Nov 2, 2018 18:19
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How are u posted:What must it feel like to be a teen or in your early 20s right now? I imagine it must be infuriating, just incredibly maddening to watch your future burning up into ash. Early 30's isn't old, what the gently caress.
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Rime posted:Well hell thread, I just took a contract building the biggest wind turbines in North America for the foreseeable future, I start next month. How many to offset my lifetime carbon budget? Are you building these onsite with a collection of green construction techniques or are you shipping them in? Were the factories they built in free range? How many anti-oxidants do they have? Any mangosteen?
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