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Popular Thug Drink posted:its extremely unlikely that the south would still exist, its economy was based almost entirely around cotton production and it's unlikely that would change after the cotton barons won a war of independence. in the late 1800 cotton took a giant hit due to expanded global production and the boll weevil, so then you have the south's economy collapsing at most a few decades after the war, at a time when the north's industrial economy is growing tremendously The price tanked because southern seccession ignited the great game for central asia; without seccession, its unlikely that the initial capital would have been put up to expand cotton-growing operations in Bukhara and Egypt.
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Mr Hootington posted:“So, EPA, by cutting this back, is going against the law that Congress passed.” - Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley (D) Once again, the Obama EPA engages in an illegal action. When will the illegal tyranny of EPA finally be put to an end? I was watching CSPAN 1 throughout the day. Did you know EPA is responsible for the growth of student loan debt in America? Its true! Just ask the honorable member from Iowa
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Dec 3, 2015 01:19
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Mr Hootington posted:We only have these problems because we elected a corrupt junior senator from Illinois. Thank you for understanding the perspective of the majority in Congress and on the Supreme Court.
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Dec 3, 2015 01:28
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Mr Hootington posted:You mean real America's perspective. Real America doesn't elucidate their perspective with such civility. Real America has the speaking skills of Martin O'Malley.
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Dec 3, 2015 01:35
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Epic High Five posted:USPOL Dec: Basically just The Californians and dead people today USPOL Dec: Destination Californication On Terra Firma posted:Pretty cool they got an interview with the kid from UP! Big whoop. I go to UP about once a month to put my cans through a machine at Kroger to get $0.10 each. So many drat yoopers to speak to when ya do so. Yoopers: The Minnesota nice Michiganders
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Dec 3, 2015 01:35
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Why is USPOL discussing this California hubub? There is not enough information known on the event to discuss it; it's too soon to discuss this mass shooting. Now is not the time to discuss this shooting, now is the time to discuss how the Obama administration issued orders to only report positive news on ISIL to the intelligence community. Furthermore, how can we be sure that this was a shooting at all, and not a terrorist attack? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 3, 2015 01:50
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JT Jag posted:I mean, it's a shooting either way. People were shot. There is a fundamental difference between the two: One is the fault of Obama's inaction, while the other is the fault of Obama's inappropriate actions.
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Dec 3, 2015 01:53
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JT Jag posted:People are dead, MIGF, and you're trying to score political points? Disgusting, we need to take time to heal As usual, you're right JT Jag: People are dead, and if this wasn't terrorism which can be blamed on Obama's cherrypicking of intelligence, then now is not the time to discuss the events. JT Jag posted:When in public, sit with your back to a wall and know your closest exit. I learned that from the Hitman series. If there is a mass shooter who enters a room you are in, throw everything you can at them while rushing them. Done properly, books can prevent mass casualty incidents, even if thrown by only kindergarteners.
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Dec 3, 2015 02:05
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fknlo posted:Looks like the news conference is gonna start soon Preview for the conference: 'We do not know much. There is not much information; things are still active. We will see you in an hour with more information.'
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Dec 3, 2015 02:08
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:"The motive is unknowable." if(terrorism)=setflag:Obama #When terrorism occurs, look to Obama when (flag=Obama) then 50 #Equal chance (flag=False) #Send to AJones event chain (flag=AnotherFailure) #Add to list; be sure to code for memory overflow issues
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Dec 3, 2015 02:15
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DemeaninDemon posted:What is this bullshit, nerd? Its what you do inbetween calltime, because who the gently caress in American campaigns actually wants to work? The only candidate I could imagine it being fun to work for is Trump, and only if you're coked up near 24/7. Aerox posted:Enjoy this very large image of a dude going in on every Congressman/woman who tweeted "prayers" for San Bernardino by showing how much the NRA donated to their campaigns. What do you have against political contributions? They are the greatest exercise of the first amendment available to Americans.
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Dec 3, 2015 02:22
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Those were the 90s, my friend. Welcome to the now. To be more precise, those were pre-9/11 times. We're now in the post-9/11 age and must consider our reactions accordingly.
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Dec 3, 2015 02:26
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Lycus posted:During the 90s, we stubbornly refused to remember 9/11. Sounds like such a Bush thing to do. Speaking of, has anyone watched the recent Showtime documentary, The Spymasters? I highly recommend it. Tl;dr: Bush's continued pre-9/11 thinking was a contributing factor in failing to prevent 9/11.
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Dec 3, 2015 02:29
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JT Jag posted:Female suspect confirmed. Suspected explosive devices. Shooters usually don't have IED's, do they? Sounds like a potential ISIL attack.
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Dec 3, 2015 02:38
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Mr Hootington posted:Target local government function. Health department Christmas party. Either right wing militia nuts or distressed restauranteers. Who would want to wage war on christmas?!  Angry_Ed posted:Yes because we all know Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were trained in the Sudan "Terrorism is a possibility"
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Dec 3, 2015 02:41
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JT Jag posted:FBI isn't prepared to declare this terrorism. They aren't prepared to not declare this terrorism.
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Dec 3, 2015 02:42
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JT Jag posted:Female suspect confirmed. You know where else a female suspect was confirmed recent, right? "He's not my boyfriend!!!"
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Dec 3, 2015 03:05
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toanoradian posted:Wait wait wait. Research on gun violence is banned? Its not illegal or anything. You wanna do the research, you're free to pay for it.
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Dec 3, 2015 03:23
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:Remember that the next time your boss says that you can pay for your own paycheck. Welcome to campaign finance! Enjoy your stay within the American political system; hope you get a better appointment than Forestry Service in Missoula
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Dec 3, 2015 03:39
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DOOP posted:I've been at work most of the day 1. Prime suspsct, according to news media like CNN, has a middle-eastern, islamic name 2. A bomb was found at their residence and blown up 3. FBI refuses to rule out terrorism
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Dec 3, 2015 03:41
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radical meme posted:It's in the story he cited so blame The Daily Beast if you're looking for the responsible party. How often does FBI take control of mass shooting investigations? Sounds like an event with a lot of planning, of a cell which went operational after being triggered by a christmas party.
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Dec 3, 2015 04:15
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The Glumslinger posted:A manchurian candidate triggered by the "Jingle Bells" Think about it --- what if it was a terrorist cell involving an individual who worked for local government? What sort of reaction do you expect from "TERRORISTS INFILTRATE GOVERNMENT" blaring on Fox for the next month? Rexicon1 posted:It just doesn't seem like typical terror cell MO with the running and all. Why not? They may have had multiple targets in mind. Or, is it too surprising that terrorists are cowards?
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Dec 3, 2015 04:19
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zoux posted:It's just, a holiday party for county bureaucrats would be such a weird target for any kind of terrorist attack. They're already at a place that would be a better soft target. What if the terrorist came from inside the christmas party?
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Dec 3, 2015 04:59
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Luigi Thirty posted:A Trump presidency just became marginally more likely and Islamophobia is going to reach even higher levels now. Someone please tell me something nice happened somewhere today You wouldn't have terrorists working in the government in a Trump administration.
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Dec 3, 2015 05:05
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Did AP say where they got the name from? All I've heard is just that they have it. Police radio. Shimrra Jamaane posted:How long into his term of office would it be before he passes a decree to ban Muslims from holding jobs in the government and civil service? Not all muslims are terrorists, Shimrra.
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Dec 3, 2015 05:20
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Why doesn't Obama issue an executive order creating a "no gun list" for terrorists? It would appear this shooting is Obama's fault for failing to prevent guns from falling into the hands of potential terrorists.
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Dec 3, 2015 05:24
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ComradeCosmobot posted:As if you couldn't stoke Islamophobia even hotter, Farook was "very quiet" and "flew under the radar", and recently returned from paternity leave. ( Make them. Maybe if Obama had some balls and was willing to shoot from the hit rather than overthink everything, then there wouldn't be terrorists committing so many mass shootings in America.
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: If some normal unassuming Muslim can do this then they must all be evil!)
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Dec 3, 2015 05:49
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:What will Trump's SS uniforms look like? There's no 'S' in 'Trump'
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm in a real bad and worried mood so I gotta ask. What would a Trump presidency look like exactly? What is the extent of what he could do with the power that comes with being the PoTUS? How much damage could he theoretically do? What checks and balances could there be to stop him from being a total monster? I'm asking this as a serious question, so please don't post one of the trillion jokes about a Trump America. I've read and laughed at them all. We'd be bombing the poo poo outta ISIL; millions of good paying public-sector jobs with multi-trillion in stimulus spending; single-payer healthcare; and an end to looking weak internationally.
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Joementum posted:... we would legitimately have no idea what the political landscape looks like. And isn't that just so exciting? I know what the political landscape would look like with a Trump presidency. Tatum Girlparts posted:We know literally nothing about this and we're pretending it's rolling the red carpet for the GOP less than a year from now, ok. A religious muslim carried out the worst attack since Sandy Hook. What else do we need to know?
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Dec 3, 2015 06:26
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Are people right to be so confident that Hilary would run circles around Trump in a 1 on 1 debate and out-campaign him at every level? No, they're not. Hillary is limited by things called "facts" and her "record" Trump is an outsider who doesn't let these concepts bog down his politics. ComradeCosmobot posted:RBG is 82 and is the oldest justice on the court. If anyone resigns or dies next, it's almost certainly her. And if President Trump is in office, well... ...he'd most likely appoint some Democrat from New York.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:28
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Hillary can't take any criticism whatsoever and will shrivel up next to the man who fires his mouth like an automatic weapon. I could see Hillary attempting to play the sexism card against Trump in a debate and having it go as well as when she tried to play the 9/11 card.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:45
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Which is why I gave Trump 47% to start with. I think it would be difficult to do worse than Romney, given the relatively unfavorable atmosphere for Obama. The other thing that posters seem to forget is that Trump is running against Obama, while Hillary is running as Obama redux.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:47
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Nonsense posted:Trump will outperform Reagan's '84 results. I would not discount this possibility.
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Republicans posted:Okay so here's what happened: They were planning a larger, more organized attack but someone at the Christmas party pissed him off so much he said "gently caress it," ran home and got his poo poo. That's why the pipe bombs didn't work. That's the only way this stupid thing makes any sense. I'm gonna go with this being the most plausible scenario. How many other terrorists have infiltrated our government?
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Dec 3, 2015 07:31
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The Glumslinger posted:Obama? Obama is not a terrorist. He's a cerebral President at a time when America needs a cowboy-like decider.
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CalmDownMate posted:Doesn't make sense for someone as disciplined who prays a lot and is very religious to just snap like that if he has a really big plan and ruin that plan. Terrorists have anger management issues? 
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Dec 3, 2015 07:39
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Joementum posted:Obama, speaking to the Oval Office reporter pool, says they still don't know whether this was terrorism or workplace violence. When was the last workplace shooting where the shooters wore GoPro's?
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On Terra Firma posted:These people wore go-pros? Seriously? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/03/2-suspects-killed-shootout-san-bernardino-massacre-14-killed/ quote:Dressed in body armor and wearing GoPro cameras, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, burst into the San Bernardino facility and shot up a conference room where Farook's employer, the county health department, was hosting a holiday party. The pair escaped in a black SUV after the attack, which authorities said was over within minutes, only to resurface three hours later and less than 2 miles away in a fierce gun battle on the city's main drag.
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