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SedanChair posted:If he would actually admit that he is doing something he said he wouldn't do, that would be fine. Special forces haven't been considered "boots on the ground", since idk, Kennedy maybe Eisenhower? I'd blame the arcane lies we tell ourselves about congress overseeing our military.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:It's hard to cut Obama slack when he's been actively opposing sending in any significant amount of force to directly confront ISIS. It's not just 'he's doing something he said he wasn't', he has repeatedly said it's the objectively wrong thing to do. So wait, do you think we should or shouldn't be deploying ground troops to fight ISIS? I'm sorry the fact that special ops isn't considered boots on the ground makes you angry, but that's just how the terms work in American politics.
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Dec 1, 2015 18:48
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SedanChair posted:You feel that? That's the feeling you get when a politician you like tells lies. Now now, we're not Republicans "nuance" doesn't have to mean "lies" to us.
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Dec 1, 2015 18:51
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SedanChair posted:It wasn't "nuance" when Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson did it, it was lying. It's lying now. People don't want any troops in the Middle East and Obama and the Pentagon are conspiring to deceive them. Except there's a legal distinction between deploying special forces and deploying ground combat troops. "Boots on the ground" is a dumb term that's stuck, but it is shorthand for ground combat forces and generally hasn't ever included special forces.
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Dec 1, 2015 18:57
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SedanChair posted:Yes, most people don't realize we have hundreds of bases around the globe. They wouldn't approve if they were able to learn it. Dude, its not some secret. You're acting like there's huge barriers to figuring out America has troops everywhere. Go to a parade for christ sake. The isolationist section of America isn't the majority, but does exist I will grant you that. However, the isolationists rarely have led this country is good directions.
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zoux posted:Yeah the imperialists did much better. Washington was a believer in South Park politics on this one
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Fried Chicken posted:Found it: Does this bill have an oil export provision too?
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Luigi Thirty posted:
Is it bad when Google does it?
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Luigi Thirty posted:No, because Google isn't exploiting the image of a dead person for political points. Just for $$$, which makes it ok, got it.
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foobardog posted:This is like complaining about car dealers dressing up as presidents for Presidents' Day sales. American society is much more forgiving of corporate shamelessness than political shamelessness. Luigi Thirty posted:Did you want the idealist answer or the realistic answer? Yeah I'm not saying you have to pick either idealistic or pessimistic, just lets not let our non-fleshy persons get away with poo poo (or praise our fleshy people more for the same). Although, I could dig going all feast day on our American Heros of all stripes. Force big brands of all kinds to make a version of their logo with Bessie Coleman etc.
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Radbot posted:Mind telling us how much extra $$$ Google gets out of featuring Marie Curie or Jonas Salk on their homepage? Good PR is essential when your product is eyeballs. Google gets the benefit of "supporting women in science" without having to do anything except throw up a doodle. That's the pessimist take. The optimist should be praising both Google and the Clinton campaign, did OFA take the extra effort to highlight Parks at the logo level? Me? I waffle between the two based on how much coffee I've had. Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Radbot posted:Cool, mind quantifying what effect that good PR had? Or that it is indeed good PR in an objective sense? This is all doable for most corporate PR, so surely being so confident, you've got some evidence to back up your assertions. All of those questions can be asked of the people decrying the Clinton campaign for doing the same thing...that's kinda my point. edit: its like you don't believe in "earned media" as a good thing for your brand. Also lol that most brand PR can be objectively evaluated. Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Many would, but others enjoy the social segregation public transportation affords them from their lessers, while simultaneously making sure the help gets to work on time. They prefer private mass transit, like Suburban Express: https://popehat.com/2013/04/28/suburban-express-took-the-first-bus-to-the-streisand-effect-have-they-disembarked-in-time/ quote:In other words, if you accept Suburban Express' terms and conditions, even though you go to school in Champaign County, they will say you're agreeing you can be sued in a different county, that you'll pay their attorney to demand money from you, that you'll pay their attorney fees if they sue you, and that you'll pay a flat $500 if they think you or your friends have been rude to Suburban Express.
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DemeaninDemon posted:You forgot the last step. The Or she'll face 20 years in prison: quote:Patel told her doctors that she’d had a miscarriage and had left her stillborn fetus in a dumpster behind a shopping center. Still in his hospital scrubs, McGuire followed police cars to the scene and examined the fetus, which he pronounced dead on arrival. Patel was charged with child neglect, and later with killing her fetus, and on Monday she was sentenced to 20 consecutive years in prison.
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Meg From Family Guy posted:Multiple fatalities, suspects 3 white males in "military-style" gear. So some misguided lone wolves?
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Meg From Family Guy posted:They're probably just mentally ill imo. 12 now confirmed deceased Since mental illness is societally defined, pretty much anyone who commits or attempts mass murder is mentally ill.
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Since several people have already alluded to it, I'll post OTM's Breaking News Consumer Handbook's guide to Mass Shootings, again for the Dec thread:
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:http://www.theonion.com/article/frustrated-gunman-cant-believe-how-far-he-has-driv-51923 
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haveblue posted:Maybe this would finally be the motivation to make guns harder to obtain. hahahahahahahaha Dapper_Swindler posted:one of the police scanners said they were middle eastern looking. scary if that turns out to be true. yeah doesn't matter even if it is true, but yeah middle eastern and bearded is what a witness told police.
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Dec 2, 2015 22:16
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zoux posted:Please stop being so goddamn credulous. No, but we're in a world where any details are latched upon by those who think Sandy Hook was faked. So it doesn't matter if that witness, which didn't mention if the scary brown man had a gun, was lying. It will become part of the narrative that this was a false flag and or grander plot.
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Dec 2, 2015 22:19
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Hollismason posted:With the last shooting it was kind of obvious what the motive was. This , who loving knows? Yeah, there's not like a heavily armed anti-government movement in America or anything, who knows why someone would attack the holiday party for government workers.....
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Dec 3, 2015 01:19
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Okay seriously was there gold under this center for disabled children??? Because that's the only possible motive I've got. No but government workers were having a holiday party in a building the center rents out for events. That was the building attacked.
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Loucks posted:You're not wrong, but wasn't it the local Health Department? Usually the crazies are anti-Federal Government. True, but it is actually kinda hard to get into the IRS offices these days
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No one will go to prison over Deepwater Horizon. After manslaughter charges for the 11 workers killed were dropped today.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:When you work for an arm of the government, though.... Yeah that's why the phrase is "going terrorist" not "going postal"
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Radbot posted:My local shwarma stand isn't at its usual location today. I hope everything is OK, the dudes who run it are Persian and sling killer falafel. probably should report it to dhs, just to be sure
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Why is that a bad thing for Obama? Laws could actually do something here. If they were illegal we'd just get a bunch of "criminals will buy illegal guns anyway so why bother with laws" stuff. No see if the guns are illegal then gun laws won't work and if the guns are legal then gun laws can't work. The only thing that could possibly work is more guns, let's try that again.
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Fried Chicken posted:Half right. The company has a mandate to invest in long term structural endeavors. As in, instead of putting money in Coca-Cola, it puts it in textbook manufacturers, water treatment enterprises, and the like. It is also a tax dodge, since that vast wealth will never be taxed because of this. But yes, this is also supposed to help his progeny have every advantage possible relative to the rest of us.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Sadly no, they actually did those things Of course you know the Washington Times isn't exactly the most credible source, but who cares about credibility when discussing highly politicized fast breaking news?
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Monkey Fracas posted:I almost can't believe this. Don't worry, the big banks are still getting a free 6% from the fed, it just isn't as much money as they wanted.
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JT Jag posted:Ok, this is pretty clearly a problem with the local police not maintaining a crime scene at this point. Why can't the police keep people out? They have arrest powers....
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FourLeaf posted:Could the family sue MSNBC over this? The now doxxed grandmother, the 6 month old child, or the two dead mentally ill wannabe terrorists?
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Awful Sandwich posted:Holy poo poo! Someone else made the "Storage Wars" comparison which is depressingly accurate.
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I'm pretty sure no one is getting arrested over this.
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euphronius posted:They were already married. It's also sexist too!
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Hulk Krogan posted:What a coincidence that your standard for what constitutes radical Islamic terrorism is based on information which is completely unverifiable. According to TDD's own standards, we will never know if this was terrorism. But of course, that doesn't stop anyone from claiming mind reading powers.
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Talmonis posted:isn't a major Jihadi suicide attack motivation the virgins in heaven bit? I am not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that's vastly overblown compared to the alienation, lack of hope, etc usually behind radicalization. mcmagic posted:I think Adam Lanza was, to use a technical term, just batshit insane. Unlike this couple? Lanza just had a more American violent and insane ideology.
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Dec 4, 2015 21:15
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:You don't have to be mentally ill to have the capacity to kill someone, especially in context that most deaths in America are conducted by ordinary people acting in a perfectly rational framework in their mindset. If have a "perfectly rational framework" that leads me to paranoid delusions am I no longer insane because I can rationalize it to myself?
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Talmonis posted:Probably the bombs. They pretty well imply a plan to attack something. the FBI declared Columbine terrorism?
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