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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Aaronicon posted:

I'm just saying, there's been more bad Star Treks than there have been bad Star Wars.

Well they do outnumber them, there's been 12 theatrically released ST films and only 9 theatrically released SW films so far (including Clone Wars and the two Ewok movies which got theatrical releases overseas.)

Star Trek: Nemesis is pretty bad but I'm pretty sure that Ewoks: The Battle for Endor has it beat.

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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In the old thread I was one of the PT naysayers but thanks to the discussions we had I went out and bought the 3 pack PT DVD set today and will watch them this week with an open heart and mind. :glomp:
Edit: after all that talk we had recently about comparing the different versions put out in different years I just noticed that the copies I bought have absolutely no information about what version they are anywhere on the packaging. They're just Episodes I, II and III, that's it. Not that I care either way, I just thought it was interesting to note.


ungulateman posted:

Seeing this with my mostly-estranged dad when he comes back home for Christmas.

I'm not telling you not to do this but I will point out that this franchise has had pretty much all of their film based around hosed up father/son relationships so far ..

Mr. Unlucky posted:

as far as I can tell the only good star wars characters have come from those 2 kotor games so they should probably make some movies about those. jolee, nihilus, kreia, hk47. probably cant do prequel stuff anymore though I guess lucas salted the earth there, that's too bad

Chopper from the Rebels cartoon is awesome as well. Also the 2016 Rogue One movie will be set between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope so it's going to be prequely-ish.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Dec 14, 2015

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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well why not posted:

Hoping that all props throughout Rogue One get dirtier and more 70's looking over the duration of the film

The teaser cast photo they've released is grungy as gently caress, they look like a bunch of homeless people hoarding recycled metals in an abandoned factory.
If they get any dirtier than that they'll look like walking trash heaps.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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I should also add the the clerk in the store where I bought the DVDs was super excited about Episode 7 and insisted on showing me the boxed set they had in case I wanted to buy that instead and asked me who my favourite character was. I went "Uhhh, R2D2??" and he went "Oh, a droid man. I haven't met many droid men."

He was telling me that the favourite characters for people his age are usually Qui Gon or Mace Windu because he had that cool purple lightsabre and I just nodded at him.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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I think both those characters sucked but I didn't want to rain on his parade.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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RBA Starblade posted:

If you like Star Wars you do not like Star Wars. If you do not like Star Wars you like Star Wars. We must make sure that the two never meet, or they will collide and explode.


There should be a questionaire that people have to fill in before being allowed to watch the new film with questions like "Which is the better song: Lapti Nek or Jedi Rocks?" If they pick either one they're escorted from the building, if they have no idea what those two things are they're waved on into the theatre.


Edit: apparently they've already banned people in costumes from being allowed to see the film which is a step in the right direction
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/10/30/local-theaters-implementing-bans-on-costumes-for-new-star-wars-film/

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Dec 14, 2015

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Yorkshire Tea posted:

A senate controlled by Palpatine! He's too dangerous to be put on trial! He controls the law itself!

UNLIMITED POWERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Rageaholic Monkey posted:

What kind of waffles do the prequels make though? :colbert:

Arglebargle III posted:

Burnt and meaty.

The Darth Vader Prequels Burger looked like it had been burnt to gently caress so that checks out:



Taste the flavour of the Dark Side of the Force!!! Mmmmm !!!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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LinkesAuge posted:

But he didn't even "learn" that the Sith have the ability to save people from dying, he just heard a myth (are we supposed to think of Anakin as literal child who believes every story he is told?). Palpatine didn't offer him any powers, there was no proof that he could actually have such a power nor does he even know if the Sith still exist or who they are (up until that certain moment).

In the end he even admits that he doesn't know the secret to Plagueis' power to resurrect the dead but he's sure he can discover it with Anakin's help.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Just got back from seeing TFA, it didn't blow my socks off but it didn't disappoint either. It felt like a bridging film to me, strategically giving respect and acknowledgement to the original trilogy and setting the audience up for the films that will follow (so 100% what I was expecting in that regard). I'll probably go see it again with some friends and I'll be looking forwards to Eps 8 and 9 and the other films but on the other hand I won't be rushing out the get a BB-8 tattoo.

There was a whooooole bunch of people in costumes at my screening which was actually really great to see. Mostly lots of kids running around in costumes with their toy lightsabres.

Hakkesshu posted:

Also gently caress this gay forum for spoiling Han's death, even if you saw it coming as soon as he went to confront his son

It was also flagged pretty hard when Rey proved she was capable of flying and maintaining the Falcon and Han offered her a job. We've got a replacement for Han, looks like we don't need the old one any more!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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computer parts posted:

Oh, apologies, because some people thought the land actually was CGI ("It's like a Windows XP background!") .

From what I can gather the photos of the Marin hillsides were combined with digital matte paintings so most of the landscape was made using real photos but it was partly digital.
Edit: apparently the photos of the Marin county hills were also digitally altered, partly accidentally. :v:

quote:

Dennis Muren went out with a camera into the Marin county hills and shot moving and still footage with a small ILM crew. However, when they got back from their shoot, they realized they had lenses on the cameras had created an squeezed look(is the only way I can put it) to the landscape. They were talking about reshooting it but then Muren said "wait, it looks otherworldly and it's just subtle enough". So they kept it. So most of the landscape and skies was based on film and still camera photography. They also shot grassy hillsides and grass they would then piece into shots as needed.
Source (dunno where they got the story, take it as you will)

Here's some examples of photos from the area and how they looked on screen after they were digitally composited togethers:


Also here's a couple hundred photos of the practical effects in the Prequels:
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-prequels-miniatures/
It turns out that a bunch of ships and other things which I'd always assumed were CGI were actually miniatures which just looked CGI on screen. :v:

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Dec 17, 2015

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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The_Doctor posted:

Hit all the right notes, even if there felt like some extremely convenient storytelling. Rey discovers she has the Force, and is suddenly really good with it. R2's been asleep for a period of X parsecs, and just wakes up when it's plot-convenient.

Also those incredibly important MacGuffins that the plot revolves around just happen to have been held in a pouch and an unlocked box for several decades by some pretty random people who our heroes find really easily. I also don't think they ever explain how they got them in the first place?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Hakkesshu posted:

Presumably it has something to do with why Han and Maz know each other, that didn't seem like a huge stretch to me even if they handwaved it in a "we'll explain this later" kind of way.

You just know that it'll be explained pretty much immediately after the final scene of the movie when she's waving it in Luke's face so tune in next time to find out!!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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My screening was absolutely jam packed.

Jack's Flow posted:

I know people want to see Leia, Han, and Luke, but personally, I can do without them just fine. Give me a 30 second hologram of the old guys, and then let the fresh blood take over this saga.

Kylo Ren was trying REALLY hard to make that happen. :v: At one point he even tells Finn and Rey "It's just us now!!" but then they kick his rear end and go and dredge up Luke.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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BillBear posted:

Ep 8 is going to be amazing.

And in a little over 500 days we'll get to see it!



euphronius posted:

Oh we think Sidious is done ?

Huh.

Does this look like a man who doesn't have a plan for every eventuality?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Hakkesshu posted:

No it's not. He tried spinning, it's a REALLY good trick.

It's ALWAYS a good trick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_H3_g9PhnM
(Spinning trick at 7:00)

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Re: Kylo Ren

BrianWilly posted:

Kylo Ren is pathetic, but it's the kind of pathetic that I can get behind and am in full support of. He seems very much like a commentary and reflection on Anakin. Even so, I don't know what I'm expected to feel about his fall to the dark side because I literally could not tell you a single thing about it.

He didn't 'fall' to the Dark Side, he escaped the seduction of the Light Side. :colbert:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Calico Heart posted:

Also loving WASTED the dudes from the raid. Hope they're being set up for future releases.

Cecep Arif Rahman also worked as a stunt coordinator on the film so they were doing stuff behind the scenes as well. Apparently they were on set during the month of Ramadan so they were fasting 19 hours a day while also working their butts off. :black101:

Oh and they've already got their own Lego figures. :neckbeard: (Slightly spoilery)

hhhat posted:

and I love bb-8. I absolutely love that little guy.

:thumbsup:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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BillBear posted:

Did anyone else think the random baton storm trooper owned?

He didn't have a name in the film or credits but the internet has apparently nicknames him FN-B4D455 .

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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zandert33 posted:

They have one of the biggest audiences to ever sit in a theater and watch a movie

That reminds me, I saw people complaining that their midnight session in Melbourne had over an hour of ads and previews beforehand and they didn't get out of the theatre until 3am

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Jack's Flow posted:

Yeah, he was basically working with a loving gaping hole in his lower torso for the final 20 minutes. For Star Wars, Kylo Ren is a very scary dude.

Not only that but he kept pounding on it because he was using the pain to drive himself further.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

It's not even Coruscant that gets destroyed, it's a bunch of planets in the Hosnian System.

The main planet there was Hosnian Prime which at the time of TFA was capital of the New Republic and the headquarters of the Galactic Senate

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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lenoon posted:

Yep, more than enough reason to go looking for Luke "literally won the war civil handed, is the last Jedi, our only hope" Skywalker.

He didn't even defeat Vader or the Emperor, he just threw his lightsabre away and let them gently caress each other up. Also the other remaining Jedi (Obi Wan and Yoda) were pretty much just hanging around waiting for Luke to turn up so they could finally die. Luke also didn't kill the other main bad guys Jabba or Boba Fett, he pretty much distracted everyone so someone else could do the work. He also didn't contribute in any way to to destruction of the second Death Star apart from distracting Vader and the Emperor while the other guys got it done.
Basically apart from landing the shot which destroyed the first Death Star Luke's greatest achievements all involved being in the right place at the right time to indirectly cause other people to drop dead. And in The Force Awakens hes apparently continued to indirectly cause people to die just because they were in his general vicinity. No wonder he decided to go as far away from everyone as was possible and live as a hermit. :v:

(An alternate theory might be that Luke's achievements all happen because he lets the Force act through him and that directs him to be in the right place at the right time to do or say the exact thing which was required for events to work out for the best but that's not as much fun)
Edit: this alternate theory also doesn't gel too well with the backstory to The Force Awakens but that's a complaint we'll have to lay at JJ Abrams' feet.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Dec 19, 2015

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Kurzon posted:

But why Kylo have a pile of Vader's ashes sitting in an interrogation chamber?

That's probably his bedroom and he sleeps in the bondage chair because he thinks he's a bad rear end, he just happens to use it as an interrogation chamber during the day. It's pretty much his work-from-home office.

Edit:
... or the container of ashes is just the crucible where they heat up the torture implements and had nothing to do with Vader.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Dec 19, 2015

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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turtlecrunch posted:

Why was the beginning on Jakku and not on Tatooine, when Jakku is just Tatooine with a funnier name (and no double-sun that I could see, which means it is automatically the worse planet)?

Prequels ruined Tatooine. Tatooine has prequel stink on it now, can't ever go back.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Frackie Robinson posted:

The destruction of the Republic capital seems like it should have pretty big ramifications, especially for an outnumbered group of irregular military who have their backing, but all we really get is a couple of generally unconcerned, one off lines about "well we won't get support from the fleet"

Keep in mind that the First Order were in the process of powering up the Starkiller weapon and turning it on D'Qar where all those characters were currently located so they didn't have a heck of a lot of time to mourn the Hosnian system, they had to get poo poo done or die a fiery death.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Saturday's numbers aren't in yet and their total for Friday is only an estimate but the film has already made a quarter billion dollars worldwide.
:captainpop:


MisterBibs posted:

I can't figure out what they are going to do with Kylo's character. The Dude Who Killed Han Solo isn't getting a redemptive arc, and since he started at ineffectual villain, it'll just add to the comedy when he inevitably comes back and gets himself punked again as Rey and potentially Finn get better at their force abilities.

I can only guess that in the middle movie the First Order gains the upper hand and kicks everyone's rear end, just like the Empire did in TESB. Kylo will probably level up and become a more effective villain in order to make all that happen.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Mods please replace all of MisterBibs' posts with the Family Guy donkey.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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DeusExMachinima posted:

Still mega annoyed though that the not-Empire apparently can either hyperspace entire planets on demand or Starkiller has an FTL anti-star/planet beam that can hit anywhere from anywhere. I mean, like, GG rebels.

Also don't forget that if you look at the image of Starkiller base on the posters they've replaced at least 1/3 of the planet with machinery. It takes decades to outfit planets with hyperspace capabilities, they can't go shooting any old planet off across space.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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JonathonSpectre posted:

Unless you watched the non-CGI Clone Wars cartoon where he's a bad-rear end murderous killing machine. When you first see him he corners like 5-6 Jedi in a decrepit ship and proceeds to just wreck all of them effortlessly. Just look at this poo poo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4

What a loving bad-rear end. I was stoked as hell for Grievous after seeing that, and thought his design was one of the coolest in any of the movies. Motherfucker can use FOUR... LIGHTSABERS. He can stand on one hand and fight with sabers with his feet, he can grab people's faces with his foot claws and fling them through the roof, and at no point fighting this pack of Jedi does he look like he's in the least bit of danger. He just dominates the whole crew beginning to end. I love how he kills the padawan who runs by just landing on him and crushing him into the ground with his weight. He looked like a truly terrifying threat, a trained lightsaber combatant with droid-precise balance, agility, targeting, etc. and with his droid skillz and his... uh, gymkata-like abilities to use all parts of his body in unorthodox and unexpected ways I thought he was going to be a God-damned wrecking machine who'd push Anakin or Obi-Wan (or both, or even more!) to the limits of their abilities just to survive. When they were facing him on the bridge of the Invisible Hand I was pretty excited. Here it comes, an opportunity for General Grievous to show his quality.

But... just look at this poo poo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WQqEl4pMJ0

Hacking and coughing and talking like the loving Count from Sesame Street. BLAH BLAAAAAH, JEDI. 1... 2... 3... 4 lightsabers! I have 4 lightsabers! I mean, don't worry, I won't actually do anything with them.

He doesn't even try to fight the Jedi, just sends some redshirts to die to them and then... wanders over to another part of the bridge to tell the cannon fodder droids to stay at their stations? What? Does he need them to check the comm right now rather than dealing with the two armed Jedi on his bridge? Maybe he's checking their position on the galaxy map? He says "Keep the ship in orbit!" but does it really require one of those roger-roger toothpick-looking fuckers standing at some control for that to happen? I guess this ship doesn't have any kind of autopilot or navigation computers or any computers at all? Hey here's another question, why the gently caress isn't your bad-rear end Sith-trained saber-wielding killing machine doing anything at all? All he does the entire movie is hack, barf, get his hands chopped off and run away as hard as he can as often as he can. Christ what a waste of a great character design that could really have been something spectacular.

The in-universe explanation is that Mace Windu Force-crushes Grievous' torso and cripples him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhFUhRLBME

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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NecroMonster posted:

It's actually not, because that cartoon is no longer canon.

It's from the same series as the other video that JonathonSpectre posted where he's an unstoppable badass, that's the 'universe' I was referring to when I said that was the "in-universe" explanation.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Grievous loving loves fighting lizards.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Digiwizzard posted:

For example, did you know that General Grievous, a mostly-mechanical Kaleesh cyborg rides on his TSMEU-6 personal wheel bike while Obi-wan Kenobi, an organic being who can access the mystical power known as "The Force", pursues him on an organic creature known as a Varactyl? This is a known fact.

This battle was fought on the planet of Utapau. You know how the planets in Star Wars all have a single climate, like Hoth is an ice planet? Utapau is described as a sinkhole planet. It's got lots of sinkholes.

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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jivjov posted:

Serious question; is it just impossible for a film to have an aged wise character now? People are seriously debating if Maz is a magical negro, chinawoman, or indian shaman

I spotted this on Facebook



I guess people see what they want to see in the character, and some people want to see a racial stereotype for some reason?

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