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Edgar posted:Why would someone get a degree in english literature? Is it because its easy? fear of math
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Liquid Penguins posted:if any one of the 20 people I supervise came up to me and said even 1/5th of what is in there I would fire them on the spot too Yeah, if you think the guy at CVS has it so much better than you, why don't you just go work at CVS? Seems like the solution to her problem is right there.
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Feb 20, 2016 21:20
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Eh, the entry level pay isn't outrageously bad, and the medical benefits seemed pretty good for america. The main problem is that lots and lots of people want to live in that city, so the price of an 'entry level' apartment is higher than 'entry level' jobs pay. If she had a roommate or a live in boyfriend or something she might have been okay on that wage. But she was new in town and didn't know anyone, and didn't want to live with strangers. I wouldn't want to live with strangers either. The systemic problems are one thing, but she did make some mistakes here. She knew her pay when she took that apartment, and knew the math didn't work out. I assume she figured she could skate by racking up a couple hundred a month on her credit card until she was promoted out of the entry level position to a better job. She seemed surprised by the 1 year minimum. In August she thought she could tighten her belt and pull through, but after 6 months it had gotten to her to the point that she wrote a dumb thing and got fired.
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Feb 20, 2016 21:43
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https://twitter.com/itsa_talia/status/697942247312994305 I wonder if this is her own $1200 a month kitchen? Looks pretty nice. Was that really the cheapest place she could find? https://twitter.com/itsa_talia/status/696520138539925504
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Feb 20, 2016 22:05
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FrankieGoes posted:Maybe tweet her the address? Please rephrase this advice in the form of a lifehack. Millennials love lifehax.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:13
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:I heard that it was super expensive to live in Alaska c/d? Depends on whether or not you want to run the heater.
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Feb 22, 2016 03:53
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White Phosphorus posted:What I don't understand about majoring in humanities is can't you just read that poo poo on your own instead of playing viddya games in you spare time? It's not the 19th century anymore, you can access knowledge anywhere. All the classics are in the PUBLIC DOMAIN for gently caress's sake. Put 1000 of em on your kindle. The same isn't 100% true for STEM because of bullshit paid for article databases. I'm p sure you can access everything for a math or basic physics BS for free too. Calculus isn't secret, it's just hard.
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Feb 22, 2016 05:36
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FishionMailed posted:yeah she feels entitled to be able to afford to live in the area that she works what a loving piece of poo poo lol - did you even read the thing she can't afford basic groceries where are you getting this idiot 'oh she wants more frivolous spending money' crap from? She wants to live alone in an area with crazy high rent. According to people in this thread who live there, it is common for young people there to live with room mates. If she had cut her rent in half by having a roommate, then she would have had enough money for food and transit. Yeah, the pay is low of the area, but the reason she was living on rice and sadness was at least partly due to her choice of rental.
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Feb 22, 2016 19:37
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Solice Kirsk posted:She also really wasn't living on a 10lb bag of rice she bought a year ago. 
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Feb 22, 2016 19:39
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FishionMailed posted:goons are so loving weird; if this wasn't a millennial at a start up in SF but everything else was the same you'd be screaming for the blood of the CEO or some idiot poo poo and talking about how CEOs are hella overpaid given what they actually do Eh, most of us didn't choose to live in the most expensive cities in the USA. When you choose to move to cool, exciting, expensive cities like SF or Manhattan, the price you pay is lovely over-priced living quarters. Having a bunch of room mates or living in the worst room is part of the deal. She wasn't born there and trapped by poverty, she actively chose to go there. She knew her pay, She knew the rent. She should have realized the math didn't check out. Instead she decided to make up the difference on her credit card, and hope she'd be fast-tracked to promotion. She actively chose poverty. She doesn't get the same sympathy as someone born into it.
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Feb 22, 2016 20:06
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FishionMailed posted:50 years ago if you told someone who had just graduated college that the average or even best job they could find would still leave them unable to afford to live without a roommate let alone support a family they would have laughed in your face College graduates were rarer 50 years ago. A BA in english lit isn't much more impressive than a high school graduation these days. Back in the day a girl with an english iit degree wasn't looking for a job at all, she was looking for a husband. Getting married is like having a roommate, except you don't even get your own bed to your self. As far as I know my grandparents lived at home until they got married. Then they had a tiny apartment and literally had orange crates as furniture. No college degree, but they both worked. By the time I was born they had a nice house with nice furniture, but they'd been married and collecting stuff for 25 years by then. Starting out has always sucked.
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Feb 22, 2016 20:44
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FishionMailed posted:(lol if you think 90%+ of these millennials living in SF working at start ups didn't come from well off families) Of course they did. Poor people would know how to find a grody apartment in a sketchy area and make it work.
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Feb 22, 2016 20:49
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FishionMailed posted:also, Yeah, and the high school dropout rate in 1960 was 27%, and it is 7% now. I imagine very few high school dropouts go on to get a college degree. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779196.html if 50% of the 73/100 high school grads got degrees that would be 36.5/100. While 65% of 93/100 is 60.5/100. So out of 100 people of appropriate age, almost twice as many are getting college degrees now. An English Lit degree was likely never the road to easy street, even 50 years ago. That's why she would have been looking for a husband, not a job. The english lit degree would be useful for making witty conversation and looking cultured at dinner parties. Her prospective husband would either have been getting a useful degree, or he would be from a rich enough family that his degree didn't matter.
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Feb 22, 2016 21:06
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FishionMailed posted:btw when did we start saying she worked at Yelp?  http://eat24.theresumator.com/apply/RYJu1C/Customer-Support-Specialist
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Feb 22, 2016 21:22
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Puppy Galaxy posted:Lol I love the "damning" evidence of her eating some good meals/baking/otherwise enjoying life occasionally Poor people deserve cupcakes. Nobody here is anti-cupcake. People point out her food pics because she claimed that she had no money to buy food, and all she had to eat at home was rice. quote:I haven’t bought groceries since I started this job. Not because I’m lazy, but because I got this ten pound bag of rice before I moved here and my meals at home (including the one I’m having as I write this) consist, by and large, of that. Because I can’t afford to buy groceries. Bread is a luxury to me, even though you’ve got a whole fridge full of it on the 8th floor. But we’re not allowed to take any of that home because it’s for at-work eating. That sounds really awful, but begs the question of how she's making cupcakes and having bourbon delivered. Which one is the lie?
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Feb 23, 2016 00:23
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Clochette posted:In my senior year of high school, my pre-calculus teacher told a story about how he'd gotten frustrated with one class's performance and started ranting about how some of of them were obviously doomed to become garbage men. One girl raised her hand and said, "My dad works in New York City as a garbage man and makes 100k a year, which is more than you make." He had to concede that point to her. Although I think a lot of that is actually benefits. Garbage man is often a great paying job. It's outdoor work, year-round in all weather which most people find unpleasant. In the winter you freeze, in the summer you roast and have to deal with smells and bugs. In most places it still involves picking up garbage cans and lifting them into the truck, and since other people's garbage cans are dirty and heavy that is unpleasant. It is near the bottom of the prestige ladder, which matters to some people. So yeah, if they want to attract competent people to the job, they pay out the nose for it. Even robots don't want the job. 
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Feb 25, 2016 02:06
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Clochette posted:In my senior year of high school, my pre-calculus teacher told a story about how he'd gotten frustrated with one class's performance and started ranting about how some of of them were obviously doomed to become garbage men. One girl raised her hand and said, "My dad works in New York City as a garbage man and makes 100k a year, which is more than you make." He had to concede that point to her. Although I think a lot of that is actually benefits. And that girl's name? Albert Einstein.
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Feb 25, 2016 02:34
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Clochette posted:I can see why you would think that if I claimed this girl was my classmate and I witnessed it firsthand, but I just heard it secondhand from my math teacher. And I can't imagine he would make up a story that made him look stupid and underpaid. I'm just joshin' yah.
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Feb 25, 2016 04:14
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Big City Drinkin posted:There's more to college than just job training Right, and that's the trap. A lot of students study things that are interesting, rather than things that are useful. Stuff that helps you make witty conversation, not stuff that helps you get a good job. Which is fine if your family is independently wealthy and you are just going to school to pick up class markers and make connections. It's not such a great idea for the lower middle class who have no college fund and are going tens of thousands into debt because psychology or english lit is super interesting. As a dumb first year student I remember thinking that since I struggled with high school math (got Cs) that I'd probably be bad at calculus and college level science, so I shouldn't do that. I was really good at sociology, cultural anthropology, and psychology and those subjects are interesting to me, but they don't lead to any particular careers. I cleverly decided that if I didn't go to college at all I would be poor, while if I went and took something not-career related I still might not get a very good job and be beggared by debt, but at least I'd bee well educated. Being poor and educated is better than being poor and ignorant, right? 
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Feb 25, 2016 05:29
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naem posted:It's not like there are infinite jobs in the trades either, there are construction booms and busts just like in any field In this thread I think "trades" is sort of shorthand for the jobs that don't require a degree, but do require some skills and training. The stuff that requires 1 or 2 years a trade school or career college. For example the medical industry is booming. Baby booming. And a lot of those jobs aren't in danger of becoming automated any time soon. In a couple years you can be a licensed practical nurse, a pharmacy assistant, dental assistant, medical imaging technician (x-rays and CAT scans, etc), laboratory technician, physical therapist assistant, respiratory therapist, phlebotomist, optician, etc. You won't get the cool initials after your name like your boss who spent 7-10 years training for his job, but it is steady indoor work for decent pay, and you won't be starting trapped under a mountain of debt.
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Feb 25, 2016 23:17
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Sheep-Goats posted:Welcome to your 18 dollar an hour life with no promotional opportunity. Eh, I'd take it. Steady work. Useful work. Usually have decent benefits in addition to wages. Safe, clean indoor work environment. Reasonable level of prestige, nobody looks up to medical technicians but nobody really thinks badly of them either. Overall a much better jobs than retail, food service, call center, or barista options you get out of highschool or with a 4 year degree in a 'useless' field.
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Feb 28, 2016 21:24
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C-C-C-C-Combo Breaker!
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Feb 29, 2016 07:39
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Most people are bad at math, so having a degree in math or physics makes them think you're a wizard. That's something.
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Feb 29, 2016 20:48
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GopherFlats posted:So gently caress reading this whole thread but is it not common advice/knowledge that you shouldn't spend more than 1/3 of your gross income on housing? Yes, she even mentions that in her whine post. But she wanted to work for yelp for the chance to someday be promoted to professional tweeter and meme creator (seriously). She also wanted to have her own nice apartment with no roommates in a not-too-sketchy part of town. The apartment she wanted is 80% of her income, therefore . . . ? Well, therefore her boss should tripple her pay so she isn't spending too much on housing. Obviously.
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