ufarn posted:

Teaser trailer(s) out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxRwc8Lp7XU

Looks like absolute garbage. It doesn't really look like they get the movie and show, like, at all?

Wonder what they do with Batou.

Tomtrek posted:

Full trailer has dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPvnQ2wDlI

It does seem like they're borrowing elements from everything, but this trailer makes it look a bit more like a standard action film than the short teasers did. I'd like to see someone recut that trailer with some of Kenji Kawai's score and see how much it changes the mood.

TechnoSyndrome posted:

Actually the press release Paramount put out today lists five actors playing members of Section 9 (no mention of who's playing who though), and Motoko, Batou and Aramaki's actors had already been announced awhile ago. Also despite initial reports that he was playing The Laughing Man apparently Michael Pitt is playing Kuze? This movie's probably gonna be bad but I'll still see it.

TechnoSyndrome posted:

I don't know if it's because initial reports were wrong or if they're going to try to combine the two into one character, but it doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence. Still going to try to wait for a trailer to pass full judgement though, all we have is some character names and a brief explanation of Section 9.

icantfindaname posted:

Literal child porn too, going by an anime he made recently with the Excel Saga writer who appeared out of the aether after like 16 years. I don't know how bad it ended up being but it looked bad enough nobody sane would touch it with a pole for fear of the FBI

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_in_the_Crimson_Shell:_Ghost_Urn

Rabelais D posted:

Has the OP forgotten about Ghost in the Shell: Innocence, which is a great combination of eastern philosophy + anime noir? It's actually a better film than the original in certain respects, although perhaps not in terms of a cohesive narrative..

Corek posted:

‘Ghost in the Shell’ Producers Reportedly Tested Visual Effects That Would Make Scarlett Johansson, White Actors Appear Asian

icantfindaname posted:

the cover of the DVD is a naked 5 year old in a sexually suggestive position. i even have a high tolerance for most stuff like that in anime/don't think anime is as bad in that way as some people think , but it looks really loving bad

Neurolimal posted:

Doubt it was hard to sell "in this episode our animators take a break because none of the robots have mouths" to the producers

phasmid posted:

Yeah, Section 9s don't really have a great life.

Neo Rasa posted:

Even Attack on Titan hugely deviates from its source material.

Neo Rasa posted:

The idea that the movie won't be set in Japan doesn't hold a lot of water with me given the supporting cast and also that we live in an age where there are two suicide forest movies out/coming out with no Japanese people in them.

MisterBibs posted:

Right, but I'd argue that the draw/reception (financially, first and foremost) of an anime movie and an anime-based live action movie are apples and oranges. Adapt the movie 'accurately', and you'll get the half-a-million-according-to-box-office-mojo returns. Adapt it for a broader audience, and people will kvetch over it.

Katreus posted:

Clipperton posted:

It would be fun if the Major was still Japanese but her new body was (say) a US military model that looked like ScarJo, so the story could deal with representation issues (and also Japanese racism) directly

HookedOnChthonics posted:

Agree the Wachowskis would make a gorgeous, singular movie out of these themes that would probably utterly fail wih both critics and general audiences. Sense8 is basically a 13-episode extended exercise in visually representing the exact types of mind-body divisions and distributed consciousness stuff GitS inhabits.

Comrade Fakename posted:

This is a film about human-looking robots.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Are they whitewashing all the characters or just Scarjo?

Its hard for me to get up in arms about a white actress playing a character whose body is almost entirely robotic. I'm not sure Motoko Kusanagi even *has* a race.

Corek posted:

Crain posted:

I've been rewatching GitS:SAC 2nd gig lately and I wouldn't be surprised, given world events right now, if they crib a lot from this series. The refugee situation in the second series is probably the best story to use to make the movie feel deeper and bit more relevant to today, although it would get more mileage in Europe than the US.

Even if they just use it in the background it'd be a good choice.

As an aside though: it's kinda funny that a show from 12 years ago has a story line that is heavily relevant today. Everything old is new.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Now imagine how well it will go over in Europe.

Young Freud posted:

Japanese Public Safety Agency is real organization akin to the FBI and CIA in both scope and role. For example, any time there's a communist demonstration, Public Safety's out there taking pictures and doing COINTELPRO (but not when the neo-fascists in their black vans and loudspeakers come out ). Section 9 is just a fictionalized branch, much like how M.I.6 from the James Bond films is based off the British Military Intelligence office. I've joked about it often, but really, an Americanized Section 9 would be a secret counterterrorist/counterespionage squad or group in the CIA, FBI, NSA, or what have you. They especially shouldn't be corporate industrial espionage experts or whatever the movie is presenting them as because they couldn't be bothered to localize it or give a convincing reason for foreigners to be working with the Japanese government.

Renoistic posted:

ARISE completely lost me after the episode where the military guy who was on trouble for slaughtering civilians turned out to be innocent because the civilians were actually all out to kill him, including the child. OORAH

Young Freud posted:

No one's talked about the leaked cast photos? Well, here they are. No one's sure where they came from but they've been circulating around Asia for about a week or so. The characters are Chinese, so, I'm assuming from some sort of Chinese licensing or distribution event. The two art works are anything thing that's been included in many of the articles, so I'm not sure if it's fan art or actual concept art from the film production.











I'm not that happy with how this is turning out. Word has that they're never referring to Kusanagi by her name, just by her rank, I'm guessing to avoid naming her due to the whitewashing allegations. I'm heavily disappointed that Batou doesn't have his eyes and I don't even think "adding them in post" is going to happen, considering that Borma and Saito have their eyes done. Speaking of which, Saito looks like he belongs in a Japanese '80s scifi movie like GunHED or Zeiram his makeup looks so bad. I can tolerate Ishikawa and Borma being played by African actors, but Togusa looks super old for the part. And I think people have too much respect for Beat Takeshi that his Aramaki to not tell him that he looks like he should be sequestered in a Romanian castle with his vampire brides, waiting for Keanu Reeves to show up.

Knight posted:

Togusa has not aged well

apropos to nothing posted:

there's the plot reasons that were already mentioned of trying to get there before the section 6 dudes arrived but yeah theres more to it than just that. for one think about what you felt watching the scene when her limbs are breaking and her muscles and flesh are all bulging and distorted. prolly felt kind of disgusted, or a little uneasy or creeped out? yet they're just robot parts aren't they? one reason for the scene is to show how you the viewer still worry about and empathize with the character even though shes just a robot body. its hard to watch that scene and it appears very "gory" and visceral even though theres no literal gore there because they're robot parts, yet we still feel the same kind of emotional response as if we we were watching it happen to a human body. its to kind of drive home the point that she is a human and that her being in a robot body doesnt change that.

the other reason is that she's pushing herself beyond her limits and she knows it. this kind of drives home the point that the major mentions earlier in the film, something along the lines of "if man dreams of something then he achieves it" (paraphrasing cause I haven't seen it in years). basically showing that even with as complex and advanced as her body is she will, first, continue to push herself to the limits of her abilities just like mankind generally, and second, that her body even as advanced as it is, is still not capable of harnessing the spirit and drive of the human mind or soul or ghost.

the whole movie is centered around the major being in an existential crisis about whether she's human or not and the final scene kind of answers that for the viewer at least and helps us see that yeah, she is human.

The first movie posted:

Puppet Master: I refer to myself as an intelligent life form because I am sentient and I am able to recognize my own existence, but in my present state I am still incomplete. I lack the most basic processes inherent in all living organisms: reproducing and dying.
Major Motoko Kusanagi: But you can copy yourself.
Puppet Master: A copy is just an identical image. There is the possibility that a single virus could destroy an entire set of systems and copies do not give rise to variety and originality. Life perpetuates itself through diversity and this includes the ability to sacrifice itself when necessary. Cells repeat the process of degeneration and regeneration until one day they die, obliterating an entire set of memory and information. Only genes remain. Why continually repeat this cycle? Simply to survive by avoiding the weaknesses of an unchanging system.

Phone posted:

I think there is some flashback aspect or Batou loses his bio eyes in the movie.

I do actually like how Batou looks in the trailer, but man does everything else look terrible.

Improbable Lobster posted:

Yeah, I'm still feeling like it'll be Aeon Flux The Movie 2 unless a really impressive trailer comes out. Definitely isn't getting any benefit of the doubt from me at least.

Improbable Lobster posted:

Besides, imagine if there was a live action The Maxx that was as bad as an adaption as the live action Aeon Flux.

K. Waste posted:

Cross-posting from Greenlit thread: Does anyone else think that the choice of "Enjoy the Silence" is a maybe a friendly ribbing of the notion that the American film would "dumb down" the superficial content? "Words are very unnecessary / They can only do harm."

K. Waste posted:

That's really more evidence that Deus Ex is also following a rather generic, dystopian action template.

Echo Chamber posted:

Screw this movie, but the official meme generator is awesome and has totally not backfired.

Neo Rasa posted:

hosed up.