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The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



HalloKitty posted:

I've built in both the Nanoxia DS4 and the Fractal Design Define Mini. I'd highly recommend the Define Mini.

I think FD released new cases is February.
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefnanosbkw

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The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



So I'm thinking of building a new computer and I wanted a reality check on if it's really worth it.

Currently I have

3570k at stock speed
H7 cooler 16gb RAM
Evga 970
1tb 840 evo

PSU is a goon recommended modular that's a year or so old.

I game at 1440 and the 970 is pretty good, but the card has some bad coil whine and since I have a r5 case it's pretty noticeable.

Tl:Dr - should I build a new thing or is the 3570k still good enough and spend that on upgrading to a 1080 when OEMs are out.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Eletriarnation posted:

Is there a reason you're running at stock speed with a K chip? I would expect overclocking to make a noticeable difference. Even overclocked, that chip isn't bad today but if you upgrade to a 1080 it won't be able to reach its full potential compared to if you had it with a Skylake K-series chip. It will definitely still be an improvement over the 970 but I would probably spend $300-400 to upgrade the platform before spending $600+ on a graphics card.

I've never gotten around to OCing. I don't think I've been CPU limited. I guess I'll keep the mobo and cpu for awhile longer and up the GPU. Thanks friends.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Just a reminder to replace old power supplies!

My friend called and asked what I was doing because his computer stopped working. We replaced the PSU with a new one, recommended from this thread.

He said he was glad I fixed his computer.

I said I'm glad his house didn't burn down.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Anyone have any headset recommendations?


I had a Turtle Beach x12 for like 5 years but then it died, and replaced it with another x12, but it is definitely not of the same build quality and I'd like to find one that is a bit better.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



BIG HEADLINE posted:

Every so often the Sennheiser G4ME series will go on sale at Amazon for ~$150, but seeing as that's three times what those Turtle Beaches retail for, I think that might be swinging a bit too much for the fences. The Logitech Artemis G633 is ~$85 at Amazon, if that's a bit more palatable. Headsets are a bit like PSUs, except when you go cheap with a headset, it's $30 every year versus potentially killing your computer.

I had a pair of Sennheiser earbuds that I loved until they died after many years. Love to get something with that sound quality again. Any recommendation for which of the gaming series headsets?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Ciprian Maricon posted:

I need to get my mom a new PC for her work. Could anyone point me to something that has both Microsoft Office included and Adobe Acrobat Reader? I can find a suitable PC but I can't find one with both programs already loaded and she's pretty adamant that's what she needs since she's terrified of having to download and install a thing.

Realistically I figure I can buy a cheap dell refurb, install that poo poo myself then pack it up and mail it to her, but I thought I'd ask on the off chance that someone could save me the hassle and shipping costs.

You should probably just buy a computer and install those apps. Or tell her if she wants to use a computer she needs to learn how to install apps.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Alternatively mail her a flash drive with the installers

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



I went from a stock cooler to an H7 with a 3570k, and when I switched to the H7 I also overclocked to 4.4. Temps still dropped by like 10-15 °F

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



i7-6900k vs i7-6700k for video editing... Is the price on the i7-6900k worth it over the performance?

My friend is interested in building a rig for 4k video editing. He has this so far, and would welcome feedback. Based on his budget and needs, I feel like the 6700k would be a better value proposition. Also, can anyone comment about doing an external RAID setup for video editing vs an internal?

He uses Avid for editing.

Friend posted:

I am looking to buy a 4k editing compatible computer through the next couple months by picking up parts as they go on sale for the holidays. Id also like to use this for some gaming but it is not the main use for the computer and I am not looking to spend extra for gaming components. The CPU and video card are specifically chosen based on information from the logical increments article. The motherboard choice is made based on the extremely limited number of thunderbolt 3 compatible motherboards (attached list.) Id be open to anything on this list that seems to fit my bill.

Also of note, I chose an SSD for system information and base editing software access. The second hard drive meets the base standards (7200 rpm) for editing video off of locally while not costing an arm and a leg. Id be open to other option that fit this bill or better and dont break the bank. I am intending to buy an external RAID-5 or RAID-10 enclosure that would contain several other (3-5) 7200 rpm hard drives so I am open to discussion on this second hard drive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($1041.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($187.49)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($141.92 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($314.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card ($269.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.95 @ B&H)
Total: $2353.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-30 16:14 EDT-0400

The Slack Lagoon fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 30, 2016

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Revised the build and added drives for storage

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($174.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($259.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG BH16NS55.AUAR10B Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($118.40 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ My Choice Software)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ NCIX US)
UPS: Tripp Lite SMART1300LCDT UPS ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2420.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-30 21:51 EDT-0400

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



PRADA SLUT posted:

Get a PCIE SSD.

For the boot drive?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Will kaby lake have new chipset/Mobo?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Put this together for a video editing machine for a friend. I think it's pretty final and complete. Any tweaks?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($400.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($87.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($220.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($93.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ My Choice Software)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link Archer T4U USB 3.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.56)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ NCIX US)
UPS: Tripp Lite SMART1300LCDT UPS ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2206.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-07 10:32 EST-0500

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Is there a 5.25 sized sd card reader with more than 1 sd card slot?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Microcenter put out black Friday deals that are valid today... 6700k for 260 6600k for 180

Makes it tempting to replace my 3570k

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Don't forget you'll also need ddr4 ram

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Just put parts together last night for a friends build with a 6800k. Posted first time we pressed the power which is a good feeling. One of the ram sticks wasn't all the way in but we were able to get it in.

Also holy poo poo the nh-d15 is huge. Had to bump the graphics card down a slot from the cooler. Will having a card in the second pcie slot vs the first slot cause any performance decreases? We also have a pci wifi card in a 4x slot

Tonight we install windows :black101:

The Slack Lagoon fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Nov 16, 2016

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



I suppose we didn't actually try putting it in the first slot because it didn't look like it would fit. I can try tonight - need to take it out anyway to get access to some sata ports.

Looking at the Mobo manual it looks like the second x16 slot is 2.0. I'll have to move the card down to the third slot which is 3.0.

How much clearance would be minimum between CPU cooler and card backplate if I can get it in slot 1?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Okay, tested the graphics card in the first PCIe slot, and it fits... Barely. Is the backplate of the card too close to the CPU cooler or will that be fine? Nothing is *quite* touching, but its very close, maybe 1-2 mm



The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



So in the BIOS if I set the ram speed to its xmp (ddr4 3000) profile it sets the BCLK to 125 and core multiplier to 31 (from 100 and 34 respectively). Is that fine? Any articles where I can read up on this?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Cross posting from oc thread:

Just put together a media editing computer for a friend with a 6800k and x99-a ii board with 4x16 ddr4 3000 corsair lpx ram. When I enable the xmp profile it says BCLK to 125 and when I try to boot up it says overclocked failed and kicks me back to bios. Any suggestions?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Khablam posted:

Seems to be a thing.

If I think I'm understanding right, suggestion is to set timings and RAM speed manually at 100 BCLK?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



zergstain posted:

I've been looking around, and it's like there's only one Bluetooth 4.2 adapter in existence: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5660#ov

That is of course a combo card with 802.11ac as well, so where are the standalone PCIe or USB adapters?

I just installed this in a build and it works quite well. Windows 10 recognized it without even installing drivers, both the wifi and Bluetooth aspect of it

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Okay manually set ram timings and speed to 3000 and it looks like it's drawing 1.95v

What can I use to test stability of the ram?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Khablam posted:

If 1.95v is your DRAM voltage that is very aggressively volted for DDR4-3000. 1.35v is where you want to be.
You can memtest to look for damaged sticks, but largely is the motherboard posts then the RAM settings are fine.

Yea I don't know what that reading was about, i restarted and it's now down at 1.32 and I did the prime 95 test that says it does some memory stuff and it stayed under 1.32

Seems to be all set now

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



BIG HEADLINE posted:

Did you update the BIOS to the most current release?

If not, be sure to write down exactly what you changed before updating.

Yea bios is updated to a version that was released last week

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



If I have a 3570k with 16gb ram, SSD and 1070, at what point would it actually make sense to do a new build? I replaced the PSU a few years ago since the original was 5 years old.

I have it oc'd to (I think) 4.2ghz with an h7 cooler.

My main concern right now is that my tower (r5) is huge, and doesnt make sense for only having a single SSD and no optical drive. Are there small cases I could rebuild into? Is that worth it? I have a z77-pro4 atx Mobo.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



What's the best quiet itx case? Are the Fractal Design ones good?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Seems to me that coffee lake will be there first refresh that makes me want to upgrade my 3570k

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



You can also try finding a friend (or goon near you) that could help build if you aren't experienced

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



If I'm planning on building a coffee lake computer what ram should buy now?:aaaaa:

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Bubbacub posted:

My MSI 970 GTX is dying. What's a good card to replace it? I like it the most because the fans are quiet and throttled well. Low noise is more important to me than performance.

I have a 1070 (gigabyte g1) and it runs quieter and cooler than my 970 did

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Would a 8700k be feasible for a gaming build in a node 202? I have a gigabyte 1070 G1 I'd bring over too

I have a 3570k now in a R5, but I only use a single SSD so the case is way bigger than I need and I'd love a case with a smaller footprint.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Is the 8700 a viable option to a 8700k? Is it really a noticeable difference?

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



How long after a chip is released does micro center start doing Mobo+cpu combos? I'm looking to build a new computer in March or April, and wondering if they will have combos by then

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



willroc7 posted:

They’ve had them since launch.

Hmm, ok. Website for Cambridge/Boston only showing bundles for 7th gen

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



willroc7 posted:

You have to add the two to your cart to see the discount. Last I checked they don't have it on their main Intel combo page.

Cool didn't catch that, thanks.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



If PC part picker says watts are are 310, would a 450 be big enough if you're not planning on doing an overclock?

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The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



How does this look like for a build? I have the video card and SSD already.

Location: US
Purpose: Email, web, gaming. I have a 1440p monitor. I'm coming from a 3570k, but I need a much smaller case. I have a Define R5 right now, which is a great case, but way too big for my space, plus I only use a single SSD anyway...

Questions:
Is there a better CPU cooler I could use?
Should I drop down to an 8600k or 8700 non-k? I have my 3570k OCd, but not sure if I'd want to OC a new chip.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($404.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($26.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($175.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($209.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - SF 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($89.34 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A12x15 PWM 55.4 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A12x15 PWM 55.4 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Total: $1016.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 21:31 EST-0500

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