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195 | 31.20% |
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i hope grandma UK leaves the smelly EU and comes to join her proper family again. we can make an ango-empire thats way better than the dumb despotic EU!   
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Jun 22, 2016 07:19
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Dreddout posted:The Anglo-Saxon co-prosperity sphere will dominate the 21st century! seriously though, i find it really weird that an italian is free to live an work in the UK but a Canadian need to get a visa, and vice versa. back in my grandmothers day you could move between Australia/UK/Canada just like in the EU today. why did we give that up?
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Jun 22, 2016 07:30
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Ork of Fiction posted:Wow, they would give all that up, just to ensure they have the freedom of self government in the future. yeah seriously. if they don't vote to leave now they will never be presented with the choice ever again! as if the UK would never be offered a chance to re-join in the future lol. leaving means they can preserve their sovereignty, and have the option of rejoining if things look better in the EU. if they vote to stay the option will be "put to rest" and political integration will continue to to point where leaving the EU is not an option any more.
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Jun 22, 2016 07:52
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Ork of Fiction posted:I've heard it will take the better part of two decades to finish disentangling themselves from the EU if the vote passes. seem to me it would only take a day for parliament to make a bill that cancels the Treaty of Lisbon and makes it invalid in the UK. i'm sure figuring out exactly what that means will take the courts a while, but that'll be some jolly good fun!
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Jun 22, 2016 08:02
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Danger Mahoney posted:Does that actually benefit a country with a big trade deficit? it does not benifit the country as a whole, but it does benefit middle class professionals who can work in the EU and get cheaper prices on imported european goods
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Jun 22, 2016 08:10
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jBrereton posted:Can we just talk about the latter claim for a second because it's a big part of Remain's whole schtick. leaving the EU would be the equivalent of leaving NAFTA (at least for a while until the new deals emerge). that has to be appealing to a lot of people who have lost jobs to lower paid EU competition. the Brexit vote isn't just a political thing, it's a way to quickly put up some much needed trade protectionism. the UK is supposed to be a net exporter, thats how we conquered the world. don't let them do to you what you did to everyone else for hundreds of years!
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Jun 22, 2016 14:54
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RobattoJesus posted:The perfect scenario would be this except the EU decides that Scotland is less desirable than Turkey and won't let them in. they should have never given back the Stone of Destiny, now scotland can crown their own kings again!
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Jun 22, 2016 15:15
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Here is something that may be of interest. Countries that put into the EU vs those that take out. it'll be fun to watch the german peoples reaction once they have to foot the lions share of the bill to maintain their little empire
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Jun 22, 2016 15:39
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Seems like if you got rid of Greece, Poland, and maybe Spain, the EU would be doing fantastic. may as well kick them out, what are they going to do about it join the soviet union?
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Jun 22, 2016 15:55
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Oscar Wild posted:That's what I assumed, it's just a huge disconnect. It's pretty amazing it's as close as it is right now. Hard to believe so many people would willingly take an economic poison pill yeah, its crazy that people want to chain themselves to the sinking ship that is the EU, i dont get it either  WorldsStrongestNerd posted:There is only one solution. The US, Britain, Canada, Australia and NZ join into an Anglo Union with a common currency and Washington in charge, with regional governors in London, Toronto, etc. Buy out the local elites like the royal family, and divide up the other English speaking countries into new American states. The population will bitch, but being dominated by white english speakers in Washington will be more acceptable then dealing with the Germans, French, Turks, Poles, etc. From there a United America can conquer the earth. It's the only path to a glorious one world government.  though i think you yanks might need to get on board with the queen if you want this to work. your out numbered
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Jun 22, 2016 16:06
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Cthulu Carl posted:So, basically the EU is like an even shittier version of the US under the Articles of Confederation? yeah basically, except no one tried to invade them so they never bothered to fix it
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Jun 22, 2016 16:43
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ORIGINAL GANGSTER posted:no my friend those are called Nuclear Weapons NATO is much better at it's job than the EU
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Jun 22, 2016 16:53
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RobattoJesus posted:It's like when Hitler came to power, Britain should have just listened to the solid economic arguments of joining the 3rd reich. or when Napoleon came to power, Britain should have just listened to the solid economic arguments for joining the Continental System or when Charles V came to power, Britain should have just listened to the solid economic arguments for joining the Catholic Church or when Caesar came to power, Britain should have just listened to the solid economic arguments for joining the Roman Empire Britain has a long history of telling Europe to gently caress off when they form mega-empires 
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Jun 22, 2016 20:18
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jBrereton posted:It literally did this though. well the romans didnt really consolidate their rule their for a while until after Caesar, and it was always a troublesome province. my point is, gently caress the EU
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Jun 22, 2016 20:29
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Fire Barrel posted:American national identity isn't based around the same ethno-nationalism which blew up in Europe during the latter half of the 18th and then the 19th centuries. That's not to say there ethno-nationalism doesn't exist in the US though. yeah it actually is! thats why Cuba and Mexico are not US states right now, even though the US government had many opportunities to just take them if it wanted to. it didn't for a reason
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Jun 22, 2016 21:34
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ANIME IS BLOOD posted:nah actually it was because of political tensions between the Northern and Southern states (who opposed and were for the Mexican-American War, respectively) that were really just byproducts of the larger struggle between slave states and free, but thanks for playing they didn't have any problems taking all the land that didn't have any Mexican in it though?
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Jun 22, 2016 21:41
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Fire Barrel posted:Adding to the above sentiments, civic nationalism has always had more weight in the US. That there were different European groups settling, for example, would've made ethnic nationalism a hard sell to some, especially considering that not all Europeans were even treated with the same level of respect in American society. That's not to say there weren't racist or xenophobic elements underlying, or indeed disrupting, the general shape American identity took, but it also doesn't mean that we were founded on ethno-nationalism. no one thing is the absolutely true and defining main characteristic of american ideology, but your a fool if you think ethnic nationalism isnt a component
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Jun 22, 2016 21:51
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loquacius posted:I contend that if you think how many legs you have affects your whiteness level you don't actually know what "white" means 
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Jun 22, 2016 23:07
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waitwhatno posted:Jesus Christ, how were you a superpower? How do you even function as a country? when england finds something that works it sticks with it for a while. keep in mind they were using those same retarded coins back when the rest of the world was trading in denominations of bear skins and leopard skulls
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Jun 23, 2016 13:03
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www posted:its brilliant, we should have done the same in scotland indy ref couple of years back and only let pure blooded scots be able to vote but instead we tried to be inclusive and all the english immigrants kept us in this rotting corpse of a union how does someone qualify as a true scotsman?
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Jun 23, 2016 14:34
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Scotland and Wales want to remain, right? So basically England wants to regain its independence and world scale with a whole half an island and diplomatically hostile neighbors. Exciting wales gets to make decisions?
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Jun 23, 2016 15:22
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Monomythian posted:What England will look like without the EU. i think this parody map is more accurate: 
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Jun 24, 2016 19:29
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Lichy posted:im going to cash in on the wave of nationalism and be the first to register the national socialist party of Great Britain as a legal entity your too late, i already registered the tredemark for Ingsoc. Hail Oceania!
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Jun 24, 2016 21:04
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SciFiDownBeat posted:every last pence you simpleton!!!!!! 
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Jun 24, 2016 21:11
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Decebal posted:How come the Royals aren't saying anything ?? Can the Monarch dissolve Parliament ? technically she can try, but the last time a monarch tried to overrule parliament they executed him
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Jun 24, 2016 21:16
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cock hero flux posted:the only way to save themselves is to really commit to reform, and to fixing the problems that caused heavy anti-EU sentiment in Britain and other countries. thats the biggest problem with the EU. its a top heavy, appointed bureaucracy so it doesn't have any mechanisms built in for popular reform
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Jun 25, 2016 16:19
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Chichevache posted:Does anyone have a small graph of what happened to the US economy in 1776? I would like to examine a single day of it so that I can extrapolate the entire future from it and retroactively determine whether leaving the BE was a sound financial move. the USA had a revolution over sending less tax to the UK than the UK currently sends to the EU 
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Jun 25, 2016 18:00
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Dongattack posted:what do british girls smell like?? i need to know for immersion purposes cheap curry and cigarettes
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Jun 29, 2016 14:03
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hemophilia posted:You can't even admit that a simple majority shouldn't be able to drag a nearly full half of the country that was in opposition to this into this situation that will affect everyone, and the children of everyone. You can't accept that because you only barely got an outcome you wanted. Do you know what a Pyrrhic victory is? If you get your way, that's what this is. If the UK left with a supermajority, united in their will to leave the EU, that would be different. Instead you're probably going to lose scotland, and North Ireland is going to move that way too. The emprie is dead and England isn't that useful scotland to the world without scotland's oil fields. A brexit would rear end-gently caress your finance sector, which employs basically everyone and pays off the pensions of the dying old people that voted for this. so whats the alternative? a simple "not even a majority" should be able to dictate to the majority, because that happens to be the status quo?
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Jul 2, 2016 16:19
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Moridin920 posted:ITT a bunch of brexit brits try to claim they aren't racist, even though the only real tangible bit of the 'leave' campaign's promises is now 'we're gonna close the borders' pretty double standard going on. maybe all of those african colonies and india should just come back to the empire. kicking whitey out is just xenophobic racism!
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Jul 2, 2016 17:55
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Stoatbringer posted:Bye-bye to the billions received for redeveloping poorer regions. but thats money the UK gave the EU. they still have that money, they can keep spending it on poor people if they want
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Jul 2, 2016 18:34
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i love people going on about the EU sending money back for redevelopment. lol that is so paternalistic, as if the people of the UK are not responsible enough to decide how to spend their own money! that is exactly how colonial governments worked. the colony sends money to the crown, then the crown sends (some of) it back for development projects that the dumb natives wouldn't have done on their own
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Jul 2, 2016 18:38
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Young Freud posted:It takes a supermajority to get anything important or with permanence like a constitutional amendment or admitting a state* in the United States. You would think something that has that much of an effect on the nation as a whole would require a supermajority. thats all well and reasonable for the next time we have an important vote. unfortunately that wasn't how this vote worked. you can't go back and say "nuh uh simple majorities dont count!" retroactively. that undermines the entire point of democracy if people had known that they actually needed 60% or whatever to leave it would have influenced the way they voted!
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Jul 2, 2016 19:22
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Internaut! posted:the UK was just fine before they joined the EU but now they are doomed because of these massive structural changes to the country: the UK wasn't "fine" when it joined the EU. it was flattened by terror bombing and on the doorstep of of the Red Menace
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Jul 2, 2016 19:52
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Automatic Slim posted:It's the elephant in the room and I can't stand it any longer. What the gently caress is up with Boris Johnson's hair? Is he so austerity that he can't afford a comb? Has no one ever pulled him aside and told him about pomade? hes obviously training to hold the super saiyan form for extended periods of time
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Jul 3, 2016 01:45
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Solice Kirsk posted:Easily too. You remove the federal government and the cartels wouldn't give two shits about some backwoods "militia" defending their ranches or a local police force. Those rancher's heads would be swinging from overpasses as a warning with in the first day. Mexican cartels don't gently caress around. im pretty sure the US government would sell texas all the good military hardware. in fact it would likely be mandatory
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Jul 5, 2016 18:41
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Solice Kirsk posted:So I don't know if this has been discussed, but could this mean the end of the Union Jack? I really like that flag. to be honest they should have taken 75% of the irish cross off a long time ago
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Jul 5, 2016 20:50
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Prorat posted:Pre EU Britain: A world power slowly taking over the world for 1,000 years. more like 950 years, battle of hastings was a pretty brutal ownage
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Jul 6, 2016 03:57
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Internaut! posted:tumblr socialists like those ITT are socialists insofar as they demand society compensate them for their life choices such as staying in school until age 28, and support their demanding post-graduate career of regurgitating things they were taught in school on social media every hour of the day to be fair, Marx would have been unable to work at BestBuy too. the guy was basically a spoiled millennial baby himself
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Jul 6, 2016 13:12
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RobattoJesus posted:I'm fighting a Marxist class war for the lower classes and I'm also a globalist citizen of the world! china is one of the better parts of the Iphone supply chain. at least in china they get suicide nets and pay cheques. the rare earth minerals that go into the computer chips come from people enslaved by warlords in the Congo
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