Scandinavia: I know I shit on Denmark a lot, but I think they deserve it

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Swedish housing bubble is still going strong.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2016 20:05

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# ¿ May 2, 2024 01:29

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Zudgemud posted:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article23165235.ab

Due to shortages of police, Swedish police recruitment will now start to accept aspirants that are below normal talent in general problem solving.
One would think that maybe, they could instead increase the amount of trained police officers on the street by not spending years upon years shuffling them into administrative duties formerly done by non police officers, but apparently that is out of the question and tasks like passport renewal can not be done by ordinary workers.

Well to be fair they have to lower the requirements even more if they want people dumber than Eliasson.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2016 18:22

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So the theme for this years book fair in Gothenburg is freedom and speech. Now they threw out a newspaper that have opinions that they're uncomfortable with while still letting all kind of left wing extremist newspaper being represented. Never change Sweden :allears:

# ¿ Aug 22, 2016 14:11

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kalstrams posted:

Could we get a sample of these uncomfortable opinions the exiled newspaper did convey, perhaps? And some of these left wing extremist papers too?

The awful "nazis" that were banned
http://nyatider.nu/

While poo poo like this
https://bokmassan.se/exhibitors/jan-myrdalsallskapet-bibliotek/
http://www.gp.se/n%C3%B6je/kontroversiell-mosk%C3%A9-medverkar-pC3%A5-bokm%C3%A4ssan-1.3717372

Cerebral Bore posted:

Good to know that the far-right still has its tireless defenders busy defending the concept of freedom of speech by whining as all hell when the freedoms of speech and association are exercised by people criticizing the far right.

You don't see how it's utterly hilarious when a book fair that's supposed to be about freedom of speech bans a newspaper from attending because leftists wants to stop them from attending?

# ¿ Aug 22, 2016 14:34

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TheFluff posted:

SR's more specialized programmes are just so loving good. Is there even anything even remotely close to Medierna's meta reporting anywhere? Who does interviews of L�rdagsintervjuns caliber? What about Konflikt's foreign reporting? And Cecilia Udd�n is a national treasure.

Someone who is biased and unprofessional as gently caress is a national treasure? http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=5682578 . SVT and SR is utter poo poo and the sooner those two awful propaganda mouth pieces are destroyed the better. Thankfully young people don't use them so the willingness to pay for that poo poo will go down and SVT has hired Jan Helin to make the process even quicker.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2016 20:41

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http://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/mona-sahlin-erkanner-brott
Looks like Sahlin is finally done. It's quite impressive that such an utterly incompetent and corrupt politician have managed to stay relevant for so long. She should have been done 20 years ago but S takes care of the nomenklatura. However I will quite miss her since I can't think of any other figure that has done so much damage to S.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 20:45

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Svartvit posted:

Whatever SD has to say, they can say it to their own people. Trash-talking your own country in the foreign press has always been seen as toxic behaviour, for a good reason. SD has always been so quick to accuse others of high treason, and then they do this? What a joke.

It's quite funny how angry, defensive and irrational the Swedish establishment gets whenever someone tells the truth to the foreign press.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 23:34

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Wild Horses posted:

Sweden's rap sheet in defense pacts is kinda bad.
Looking specifically at Sweden bailing on finland totally in the winter war

That's not true at all though, Sweden did as much as it could during the winter war except for declaring war like instead of declaring itself a neutral state it declared itself a non-belligerent and gave Finland one third of the army's equipment. Sweden's army was an utter poo poo show at the start of the war since there was peace in our time and war would never happen again and the entire war was spent trying to build it up. It's a good thing that our politicians learnt their lesson and haven't spent the last 25 years disarming since Russia will never be a threat again.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 19:39

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Svartvit posted:

It's funny because they campaigned against government overspending (remember them putting welfare cheaters front and center?) and then went on to completely overspend in a dystopian proportion.

There was so much waste to get rid off but instead they just remade it into other useless poo poo like Tillv�xtverket, hopefully we can get some proper dismantling of ofantliga sektorn after the housing market crashes.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 19:54

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Collateral Damage posted:

Is there a chance that KD stays relevant after 2018?

They have a bigger chance than MP. Is their riksdag-revolt still going on btw?

# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 19:56

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Kurtofan posted:

unironically ban cars inside cities

Yep that sure is the issue, not that we give ISIS-soldiers privileges for being away fighting and appointing utterly incompetent people who aren't qualified to run a gas station to run our efforts against terrorism and as chief of police.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2017 17:00

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BigglesSWE posted:

Jag gissar att sverigev�nnerna blev tagna p� s�ngen n�r de fick h�ra den gripnes nationalitet. Hur ska de kunna hata uzbekistaner n�r de aldrig ens h�rt talats om landet?

Ocks� h�rt att de tagit till att photoshoppa bilder fr�n Drottninggatan d�r de l�gger till invandrare som ser glada eller nonchalanta ut. F�r det �r ju inte det vidrigaste man skulle kunna g�ra.

Visar bara v�ldigt tydligt att problemet inte har med nationalitet att g�ra utan religion. F�rhoppningsvis leder det h�r till lite f�r�ndringar som att alla de islamistiska f�reningar som bjuder in talare som vurmar f�r terrorister blir av med sina bidrag och att n�gon med lite expertis blir utn�mnd till samordnare f�r v�ldsvbejakande extremist ist�llet f�r n�gon politruk. Fast med tanke p� hur genominkompetent hela regeringen �r s� kommer ingenting f�rmodligen h�nda f�rutom lite mer utspel om hur synd det �r om terroristerna och att de ska ha en gr�ddfil n�r de kommer hem fr�n Syrien.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 10:04

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Cardiac posted:

So the 39-year old was an asylum seeker that had his application rejected in 2016, but wasn't expelled.
A so called paperless, or rather more accurately an illegal alien, since he by definition had no legal right to be on Swedish soil.
Another victim for our pretty much non-existent expulsion politics, along with the IKEA murderer.

One way to make people trust our immigration/asylum system would be to expel those with no legal right to be here.
There are enough instances to appeal a asylum application that there is no point in tolerating illegal aliens, which also have lead to the creation of shadow socities.

To be honest why would they bother leaving if they get rejected? Considering they get healthcare, school for their children and dental care as illegals. The solution is quite simple just take away all the privileges from illegals, do more things like REVA and prison time for anyone who helps them. Unfortunately the entire government and the head of agencies that can do this are all completely incompetent.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 17:57

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Alhazred posted:

They don't? That's the whole deal with being paperless, you only have right to emergency help. You are also free to abuse people without papers as they will be expelled if they go to the police.

They do, this bullshit that m negotiated with the mp is still in effect.
https://www.svd.se/historisk-enighet-om-migration
They should get absolutely nothing like the criminals they are and if they need emergency care they should be sent to detention centers as soon as it's done. Rejected asylum seekers should also just be picked up by police and sent to detention centers as soon as they are rejected by police and then be kept in detention centers until they are sent home.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 19:14

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SplitSoul posted:

Also, Islam Karimov literally boils people alive and tortures prisoners for praying. It's probably not legal under international law to deport people there.

Well sure as hell would have been better to have this scumbag boiled alive than him doing this. This is also the reason why the EU needs a solution like the offshore detention centers that Australia has.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 19:27

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skipThings posted:

you know you are advocating for literal concentration camps, right ?

There's a hell of a difference between detention centers for people that's about to be sent back to where they belong and concentration camps that are designed to exterminate people. But I guess in leftist fantasy world they're all the same and everyone who wants to a responsible immigration policy instead of the current chaos are nazis.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 21:04

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Nevermind it's utterly pointless arguing with left wingers who will lose next election anyway when reality continue to catch up to Sweden.

Pump it up! Do it! fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Apr 10, 2017

# ¿ Apr 10, 2017 18:22

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Postorder Trollet89 posted:

Yeah, the Block list should have been vetted.

But I'm not opposed to letting nazis and alt-right trolls miss out on using it. It's not an exercise in democracy or freedom of speech it's a stupid marketing gimmick.

But all kinds of left-wing extremist using it like this idiot with the list are ok? Also nice to see that moderaterna has some people left in their party with some integrity and wants to be part of the only party in the opposition.

# ¿ May 17, 2017 14:49

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Apparently if you harass government agencies enough you can just shut down investigations into the Muslim brotherhood.
https://www.fokus.se/2017/06/nerringd-jo-anmald-och-mejlbombad/

# ¿ Jun 17, 2017 12:08

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It's a massive clusterfuck, and the GD Marie �gren is still getting her full salary even though she was fired six months ago. Hopefully Anna Johansson get fired though since she's completely incompetent and only has her position because of who her father was.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 08:21

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Wow this is a new one, Alliansen is actually acting like a proper opposition for the first time since D�. Have someone upgraded AKBs software?

# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 10:34

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Collateral Damage posted:

I'm happy if they axe Ygeman. Mostly because I'm hoping it will undermine Dan Eliasson.

I think he has poo poo on everyone, he will destroy one department after another until he retires. According to sources to SVT there is a possibility that the entire government will step down. I wonder if Alliansen has the balls to go through with an election in three months or if they will back down as they did with D�. Either way SD wins.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 13:09

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That was dull, just some reshuffling. Now it's up to Alliansen to show if they have balls or will back down again as with D�. It's also quite funny how MP has become completely irrelevant in Swedish politics.

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# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 10:06

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AKB continues being completely incompetent http://www.di.se/nyheter/akb-jag-tanker-inte-avga/ . It's quite funny how she keeps losing voters to both SD and C since she can't make up her mind and act decisively,

# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 13:52

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Cardiac posted:

Eh?
Poll of polls says M is making slight recovery while C and SD lies still.
One polls says nothing.

Also reminder that C will probably do a MP before next election and there is a real chance MP will miss 4%, which would make Alliansen the most likely coalition.

M hasn't done very well since she became the leader since she has been outmaneuvered by L�fven at every turn starting with D� and now her party has gotten sick of her as well. She should just realize that she's the right wing version of Mona Sahlin and resign so M will have a better chance for the next election.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 18:03

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lilljonas posted:

Yeah we played both sides even back in the Napoleonic Wars, so there's that as well. And we ended up with (arguably) Napoleon's Worst Marshall, the often useless Bernadotte who bungled up the invasion of Russia 1812.

How did Bernadotte bungle up the invasion of Russia in 1812 when he was serving as Crown Prince of Sweden since 1810?

# ¿ Oct 10, 2017 20:20

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MiddleOne posted:

Here you are just wrong and grossly misunderstanding how the Swedish press ethics agreement is structured. I mean Aftonbladet and Expressen particularily are not the best about following it (due to being garbage yellow paper publications) but Borg got named for a few reasons and I particularly want you to pay attention the last one:

1. He's a very famous and publicly known person which merits allegations about him as partial public interest
2. He was a former finance minister which doubly merits allegations about him as public interest (if this had happened during his time in office instead of after this point alone would have been enough)
3. He himself brought attention to to the allegations when he pre-emptively posted the apology on Facebook for everyone to see

The last one was the tipping point in his case. After that it was happy hunting to use his name and that is no ones fault but his own. You can see a similar pattern with the allegations against Lars Von Trier last week, until he himself confronted the accusations in public most Swedish publications weren't naming him.

You can see the same thing but in reverse with Hanna Wigh's accusations. Most swedish publications (including Aftonbladet) are referring to the target of her allegations as 'a SD colleague' or 'SD ledamot'. That's specifically because:

1. The target of the allegations is not publicly known enough to merit it as public interest
2. The target of the allegations does not hold an important enough position to merit it as public interest
3. The target hasn't confronted the allegations

This is exactly how it's supposed to work. Similarly, as Virtanen hasn't confronted the accusations publications are avoiding naming him, for now. There is no hypocrisy here, well except for in the news-sources you read.

What about Lasse Kron�r and Martin Timell? No problem with naming and shaming then but if you're part of the journalist-class you're protected. Press ethics only applies when the newspapers want it to apply. Journalists also like to think that they are above the law such as when they buy guys illegally and smuggle refugees and all the newspapers back them up.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2017 10:52

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But wait! Sweden was unique that nobody bought for speculation and the prices would keep going up up up forever!?

# ¿ Nov 25, 2017 13:55

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BigglesSWE posted:

S will bounce back, even if it takes 4 years of right-government again for people to remember why S should matter more.

In your dreams, social democratic parties all over Europe are losing influence especially as their core voters are die of old age every year.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2018 10:37

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Postorder Trollet89 posted:

Wait for SCB's poll next week and we'll talk. All of the panels used by the major newspapers are based on readers and thus lean heavily right wing. They always underestimate S and overestimate SD, especially aftonbladet/inizio.

Haha SCB? The guys that said that SD would get 8-9 % in 2014? Sure they are the reliable! Pretty much all polls before last election constantly underestimated SD and I doubt it will be much difference this time.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2018 14:27

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THE BAR posted:

S, DF and K all seem to think, that being willing to shake hands should be mandatory when applying for citizenship.

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2018-08-19-partier-alle-skal-give-hand-for-at-fa-dansk-statsborgerskab

This is so nakedly stupid and evil.

Evil in what way? Do you think that people that gender discriminate based on a nutjob religion are the kind of citizens Denmark needs? Hopefully we will get some similar laws in Sweden soon as well instead of paying damages to idiots who refuse to shake hands.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2018 19:11

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V is the perfect choice if you think Venezuela is an utopia.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 18:25

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KozmoNaut posted:

That is literally where they belong, though.

KozmoNaut posted:

If they ever get any real power and responsibility, they'll crash and burn.

Racist fucks were never the left's traditional base.

Thank you for being an excellent example why the traditional left are dying out in the entire western world, good loving riddance.

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# ¿ Sep 2, 2018 15:07

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lilljonas posted:

I've seen a lot of mentioning of polling errors in 2016 in Swedish media, but nobody mentioning that polling methods have evolved since then. They also forget about 2018, where polling was pretty dead on after said adjustments. They also forget to mention that Biden would still win according to the latest polling with the same pro-Trump polling errors of 2016. All these things are important factors in gauging the likelyhood of the election, and I have yet so see Swedish media understanding them.

These are issues that I feel like having a pretty decent insight in by just reading SA and following the general discourse on polls on like, basic polling nerd youtube channels. While paid reporters are still doing god awful "I walked down a street in Florida and gee whizz there are signs from both candidates!" reports.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2020 09:53

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BigglesSWE posted:

He has shown himself to be a competent negotiator in the past, but maybe he's slipping.

When exactly has L�fven been a competent negotiator? He has consistently sold out everything his party stands for, to cling onto power - and every time "the great negotiatior" has gone to the EU to negotiate about refugees, EU fees, and bailout packages he has come back with nothing or even worse deals for Sweden.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 10:57

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BigglesSWE posted:

But her toblerone

Lol, it was not just a toblerone -- so you just made a brilliant example of how some well-placed PR can minimize a scandal. Mona Sahlin is among the most corrupt politicians we have ever had, but she keeps getting let back into the warmth for some reason.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2021 11:31

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Jack Trades posted:

If the living conditions of your average Svensson will improve over the next 4 years because of the blue government, I will loving eat a hat.

Fortunately, I have absolutely nothing to worry about.

It will just as it did during Alliansen! However, this time there will also be actions against mass immigration.

Overall a solid result, unfortunate that SD, KD and M didn't get a majority of their own and have to rely on L but it could have been much worse with the socialists still in power.

# ¿ Sep 14, 2022 19:44

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# ¿ May 2, 2024 01:29

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Fantastic policy goals- this new government could really bring Sweden back from the brink and stop the downward spiral.

McCloud posted:

https://twitter.com/alexvoronov/status/1580848656508280837?t=RwGBH5HS6FlPCj-DcMnWQw&s=19

Why should illegal immigrants not be kicked out? Do you want people like Akhilov running around?

# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 14:23

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