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SciFiDownBeat posted:I imagine being a mod is like getting paid(?) to pick at a scab that grows back every day also the blue marking implies that they get to offer up, at most, a 6 hour probation and then a red star gets to audit the request.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2016 09:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 20:11 |
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whiteyfats posted:Explain. Later, said goon killed himself.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 12:56 |
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Dumb Lowtax posted:According to a mod in there, Cuntellectual is in the queue to be hopefully perma'd for today's stunningly embarrassing display of concern trolling to harass the trans thread, while unconvincingly and falsely claiming ignorance about what FYAD is.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 06:23 |
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scary ghost dog posted:Yeah, those bigots are wily. isolating some actual fyadposters so people can't really say "oh he was never part of fyad, never seen him before" on another note, how many of you remember Taylor Swift? Not the famous singer, but the poster on Something Awful Dot Com? They were banned in April of 2018 for having what could only be described as a hilariously racist twitter account, and they were sniffed out in the Fortnite thread in Games. Not too much to look at, but he was the active moderator for the Gaming Garbage discord up until that banning occurred, where he would regularly post anime tits and nazi vaporwave memes from Identity Europa along with the rest of his group of friends. When cornered in the fortnite thread (really, the fortnite thread), his main defense for posting some truly awful racist bullshit on his twitter and the aforementioned new-wave-retro nazi propaganda was: Taylor Swift posted:I miss when this was a comedy subforum This rear end in a top hat's rise to what can only be considered a lackluster amount of power was due to two things: first, the GBS 2.0 reboot that caused a flood of actual bigots to take over that space until it was rightfully fumigated, and second, general abandonment of the GG discord to whoever was interested in it. Administration acted swiftly by banning Tay, as well as demodding from the GG server and reshuffling the entire moderation staff there (seeing as most of the moderators there were friends of Tay) but if you check Tay's rapsheet, there's not a single iota of bigotry beforehand, people just had to connect some dots and post what he was doing offsite to uncover that he was an actual white supremacist (or an incredibly in-depth ironic white supremacist) so yes, bigots are wily in the sense that a lot of them won't spout outright slurs unless they don't give a poo poo, they'll just post cloaked stuff, ask for avenues of discussion to be shut down for the sake of decorum, so on and so forth.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 06:54 |
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Ruffini posted:for the love of all that is holy
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:01 |
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Ruffini posted:Y'all remember that doobie guy? I point out, in this instance, three different posters that started out with the self-indentifying avatars and gang-tags that made them out to be actual, or ironic, trump supporters: Ein Cooler Typ, OXBALLS DOT COM, and Trump.mp4 there were more that were part of that little group of shitposters, but as time went on, they started dropping like flies and some of their compatriots became a little bit more evenly kiltered as it became obvious that they'd be banned for saying horrible poo poo. First was trump.mp4, a pro-trump shitposter that kept loving up threads constantly with his whinging, his final post looked like this: Trump.mp4 posted:Hey check it out, please ban me. I'll come back in 2018 to see if your website allows conservative viewpoints or not or at the very least to laugh at all the wailing in despair. Ein Cooler Typ posted:Hawaii solely exists as a tourist trap and strategic naval base in the Pacific Ocean. It's full of butthurt, poor "natives" (in reality, an unholy mish-mash of natives, Japanese, Portugese and blacks) who hate white people (or "haole" as they refer to us), and are furious that we brought civilization to their primitive, cannibalistic kingdom. OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Do you really think the best way to counter the dead-eyed madman chanting slogans is to chant different slogans? i bring these up because I know there were a few other posters that posted with them back in the gbs 2.0 days that had trumpkrew avatars, and oddly enough some of them came out of the woodwork to shitpost in QCS in defense of FYAD's transphobia. how very strange.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:16 |
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Ruffini posted:They sucked but not what I was going for. The leaders that get permabanned are usually different, but the supporting cast is the same tried and true individuals that show up and shitpost/concern troll or purposefully derail.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:22 |
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Fucker posted:im all for having that dumb lowtax post in every page of this thread, because it's completely insane and a very good argument as to why this whole thing has gotten way out of hand. after all, wasn't Taylor Swift's defense of their white nationalism "I thought this was a comedy website?" not that you haven't fallen into that hole and used that justification before, no? Fucker posted:*crazily, while being dragged to the gallows* IRONY IS A RELATIVELY NORMAL AND WELL UNDERSTOOD CONCEPT!!! IT EXISTS, IT WASN'T MADE UP BY THE DEVIL!
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:26 |
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Ruffini posted:What the gently caress are you talking about? obvious poo poo like Ein Cooler Typ's post gets them nuked from orbit, but I know of at least two trump krew holdovers that were posting in the QCS thread about FYAD's closure. im a big baby bitch that decided to put them all on ignore like three years ago or so.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:29 |
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you have already been involved in this to a degree where you've eaten bans in this thread for it also i don't think im going to take you seriously regarding this issue Slanderer posted:i'm here to say that i would never--never--use the f-word.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:31 |
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oldpainless posted:There’s only one real solution to all this: Lowtax, shut down the forums and free me from my 1000 year torment "fine, you can take away our ability to say slurs, but also take away the spaces that allowed for that criticism of our space"
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:35 |
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Ruffini posted:That's NuFYAD, the forum that was created to be unbiggoted. I'm actually an Imp Zone poster. who here remembers YCS, the fabled 186 forum on the somethingawful forums? Once upon a time, this fyad-lite was popular enough to be included as an easter egg in Fallout: New Vegas as a unique gauss rifle. 'cause I do. YCS was practically overrun with bigotry, slurs were practically a punchline to every single thread and the posting quality dropped like a loving rock. Posters in that subforum were a little elitist clique regarding who posted there, and eventually it was shuttered entirely, existing only as a meme within a videogame. Teh Imp Zone was effectively a rebooting of YCS but without all that unfortunate bigotry that plagued it the first time around. im glad you're contributing to the storied history of the SomethingAwful forums by posting in the video games fyad-lite whose zombified remains comes from one of the most unashamedly racist places on this entire forum.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:42 |
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Slanderer posted:Please discuss this in QCS, thanks QCS itself had issues in the past with brigading, cheerleading, shitposting and general bad posting from FYAD members and FYAD rejects that would take honest criticisms of issues on the forums and shitpost until eventually most issues posted there were relatively unresolved. By simply being themselves in a less moderated subforum, FYAD posters got away with being able to smother criticism and derail any attempts at actually improving the SA forums. QCS's closure was Smythe's doing, but with Smythe stepping down as an administrator in the wake of his somewhat lackluster statement regarding what was to happen to FYAD, it remains closed now as a testament to how coddled your average FYAD poster is, and the state of chaos and confusion that is plaguing our administrative team at this time. I have a feeling QCS will be reopened, with new, stricter rules regarding brigading/shitposting, but finding someone willing to full-time moderate that part of the forums seems to be a relatively difficult thing to do.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:47 |
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scary ghost dog posted:If this sounds familiar, it’s because it’s happening again. The filth can never be washed off except with the cleansing flames of a total memory-holing. Simply recreating a bigoted forum with a new name will just allow the same bigots to post under new accounts with coded language. simply ignoring the issues after a soft reboot simply solves no issues, the core issues remain unless the culture changes. If FYAD exists simply as a place to be an internet sociopath, why are we keeping that particular appendix?
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:50 |
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pog boyfriend posted:modding QCS is immensely difficult because trying to stamp down on brigading is extremely hard to do unevenly. trying to strike a balance between giving everyone a voice and preventing a group of posters from drowning out the conversation was something i struggled with myself, and therefore i can not say there is an easy answer to the problem a bigot's voice is not worth the same amount as a victim's voice.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:52 |
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scary ghost dog posted:I’m agreeing with you. Restarting the subforum with “new rules” solves nothing; all traces of it need to be erased. The only way anyone should be able to learn about FYAD is by reading a carefully curated SApedia article about its bigotry. I know most of what you're saying is meant to be taken as hyperbolic, but in all honesty, yes, FYAD shouldn't be here, the reasons why it isn't here anymore should be summarized in the SAclopedia, and we shouldn't make the same mistake again. you can keep trying to drown people out by shitposting about neopets and hannibal for several pages, but it won't work. this forum pioneered the very tactics you use for trolling.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 07:56 |
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Ariong posted:Are you talking about sestze’s post? They aren’t saying Imp Zone is bad. They’re saying Imp Zone is a revival of YCS, which loving sucked. Same concept (Games FYAD-lite) but without the bad poo poo. so when we look at the situation with FYAD, why is that different, why are they immune from the same process, other than being seen as special? pog boyfriend posted:no, that is not the intent of my post at all. i never even implied that at any point. all opinions are not equal in value. to give a classic example of what i was referring to, every time a thread about cspam would originate(with many users asking for more mods), the thread would devolve into people either discussing cspam as a forum, or discussing the politics of posters. this caused the thread to be filled with debates until it was locked.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:01 |
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Burt Sexual posted:This probably isn’t the thread to restart this. I wish to point out that I was right.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:03 |
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Ruffini posted:Can you please not be so toxic? that being said holy poo poo, FYAD is really having a mass closure of threads
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:06 |
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pog boyfriend posted:this is in theory a good idea, but suppose someone wanted to criticize the mod of the motorcycle forum. as a subforum mod or ik for qcs, are we to close the forum down and wait for the cool motorbike mod to ride in and post their take before reopening it? in that case, discussion of systemic issues would have all of their power given to the mods to decide which discussion is and is not permitted. I said it'd be nice if the moderators of that subforum stopped by to post about the thread or subforum in question regarding what's happening (or if there's any issue present). if it's a single issue, a report would be fine, but QCS seems like it would be for improvements and systemic problems.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:10 |
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Sharkopath posted:It seems really unjust and that this whole issue with the forums is becoming more about a small clique of posters crushing minor dissent, even among posters who agree with them ideologically, in a bit of an ironic mirror to what fyad used to do. It's getting to me and it feels like nothing will be resolved anytime soon. second: you're making one of the worst false equivalencies I've ever seen that relies on bigotry from fyad and trying to stop bigotry from transposters as the same drat thing. this false equivalency was used to claim, from various FYAD posters, that TGRS and CSPAM should be shut down. so no, sharkopath, i think you're wrong.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:15 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:disagreed with them Spanish Manlove posted:when you think every windmill is a dragon, all you're going to find are dragons.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:17 |
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Ruffini posted:This is absolutely not the case. Any kind of person is accepted on these forums. seems that we were a place that was tacitly accepting these people up until we pointed out they existed, then they were quietly (or loudly) pushed out and forgotten about as we all joined hands together in harmony.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:19 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:it's a loving don quixote reference because the whole spanish gimmick. jesus you're loving stupid except there were, there might still be for all I know, and there certainly were a lot of them in GBS 2.0, YCS, LF and other fyad-lites in the past. Whether or not they got immediately chased off the forums instead of accepted with open arms is the issue here.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:21 |
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ArfJason posted:i know ive said you made poo poo up but a) i was one of the people saying that poster sucked donkey balls and b) i said they should all go to their lovely offsite so that they'd leave these forums. but you've got literal pages of concern trolling probations, everyone's aware of your shtick. Spanish Manlove posted:There loving were, but you still keep accusing literally every loving person now because you saw a wolf. Want to know why? FYAD posters keep showing up in various threads and posting transphobic garbage (except they're lone wolves, not actual fyadposters, obv). Ironic posting about trans rights and otherwise post nufyad opening, plenty of whinging about CascadeBeta, too. There was a way to walk away from this with FYAD intact, but it seemed that the last twenty or so posters from that subforum could not handle a slight change to their rules. Sestze has a new favorite as of 08:27 on Jan 4, 2020 |
# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:23 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:good i don't want to be if this is how people act when others try to help them. don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:28 |
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woozy pawsies posted:every single one of your posts is concern trolling i do, i think this forum is better without FYAD, and I have believed that for at least ten years now.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:29 |
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Sharkopath posted:I'm having trouble parsing that exact post and please understand I'm not trying to bully you, but if what the post is implying is that Arf and Cuntellectual are the same poster besides just me there are plenty of people who can vouch that they are very different people with different posting styles and in fact seem to be in different hemispheres. that's how I read it, at least. Arfjason kramering in when cuntellectual got probated was weird, and that he went to bat for a guy with a handful of fyad posts and a ton of games posts screams "this is someone's alt account", not "this is arfjason sockpuppeting to protect his alt account"
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:31 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:people are accusing anyone of being from fyad for thinking this is all getting insane, and people are being incredibly loving stupid and argumentative for no reason at this point other than just being overly dramatic at this point. there's plenty of solidarity from people that believe that FYAD has been a problem and needs to go. The only reason anyone would think otherwise is the almost instantaneous kneejerk reaction from a host of people looking to derail, concern troll or drown out criticism of FYAD within any thread we discussed this issue in. it's literally why QCS was shut down, it's why the FYAD refugee containment thread became so probation heavy for non-fyad posters that came in to protest aberrant behavior (like me, but others as well), and now you're trying the same trick with this thread. the only fly in the ointment was that the attempts to do so in TGRS ended up with a set of nasty probations and bans because there aren't a set of moderators there willing to simply set aside discussion for the sake of decorum.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:36 |
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woozy pawsies posted:what about when they lied about certain posters being from fyad??? then followed it up with a "Nonetheless,!" there were no lies, I simply pointed out someone that was supporting FYAD's crusade against transpeople on SA posted on KF. I don't feel i need to make the distinction between the various branches of pro-fyad cliques on the SA forums, but apparently there's people in it for the sweet ironic humor, and people in it for the sociopathic bigotry.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:39 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:it was a legitimate issue but presented in such a loving dorky, insane way that more people than me wanted to make fun of it. People with your same ideological values can disagree with you on things, it happens.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:41 |
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littleorv posted:Personally all I think you would need to do is show that they posted in FYAD regularly the top three posters in FYAD, from one of your own threads, was two variants of general anime (permabanned for saying transphobic poo poo in the wake of FYAD's closure) and spb (banned for saying transphobic poo poo and trying to stir up drama in the fyad refugee thread) those are people who regularly posted to a degree where the next most prolific poster was like, half of spb's posts. no attempts to self-correct with any of those people before or after old fyad's closure.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:44 |
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Ruffini posted:im confused, post from 2017, and banned in 2019?
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:47 |
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littleorv posted:Not trolling: I legit do not understand this post I'd find you said post but it seems that the closure and moving of all FYAD threads seems to be so that finding these pieces of information would be made more difficult, after all, the current IK of FYAD said it best: Crime on a Dime posted:the less threads there are the more grey forums lurkers. a hint of drama and they are frothing for it lol
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:53 |
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buddy i don't have platinum anymore due to being banned for effectively calling out OXBALLS DOT COM in a thread where he was flaming Prester Jane for being trans. im not gonna spend any more money on this website until the bigot problem is resolved.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:55 |
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Pick posted:I'm upset that people asked for Neopets expertise and then shat all over it, despite me having a good memory and being really familiar with that game during a critical point in its relevant timeframe and then acting like it's trolling to provide content about topics being discussed. these are the people that relentlessly made fun of you for your personal story threads, all of your personal baggage you left out in the open they mocked you for, and you're gladly playing along with them as if you're best pals forever. very smart.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 08:59 |
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professor metis posted:I'm pretty sure the only fyad poster who's trolling the thread right now is scary ghost dog, which is honestly pretty funny because they're doing the exact opposite of smothering the discussion. "where will it stop, they're never going to stop the circular firing squad against their own people" was an honest statement said by a FYAD poster today, and I have to admit, stooping to an absolutely absurd slippery slope is about normal for them.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 09:02 |
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Pick posted:It's not stupid to be willing to be honest about yourself even if you get ridiculed for it, and gently caress you for acting like I'm stupid for acknowledging that I'm a silly, weird person.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 09:04 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:uuuhhhh what. hell wouldnt that get you banned anyways for homegrown if you did it and posted? let alone run out of the forums in tears? (which would have been the point regardless) or that might be some other random self-fellation that was posted on somethingawful
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 09:06 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 20:11 |
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Pick posted:I'm not allying with anyone else, you're the ones who are claiming that, I've never been on anyone's side expect myself which is why I'm disliked as a poster.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 09:07 |