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Honestly I never really thought much of G'Kar's character until after the shift to political leader - which was, of course, the entire point - but when I first watched B5 seriously I distinctly remember wondering when this painfully bad pastiche of a character would vacate the series forever. Luckily he did, they just didn't change the actor, or the name of the character.
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EX-GAIJIN AT LAST posted:Well of course, the characters have arcs that really mean something and change them; I didn't mean to say anything other than that JMS had everybody exactly where they were supposed to be at the time. And Andreas Katsulas is always a joy to watch even before G'Kar breaks out of himself. I just don't think anyone could have played G'Kar at the start well, though obviously Katsulas was the right choice given later material. G'Kar was such a bad Saturday morning cartoon villain, stomping off at the end of the episode, impotently shaking his fist at
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Aug 9, 2016 07:14
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Maybe he's better at VA but Boxlietner did some really good voice acting recently-ish in Spec Ops: The Line which was really, really far away from an action hero role. Spoiler I guess but the fact that his final scene still works with replacing the game's models with Team Fortress 2 models speaks to the strength of the performance (and the rigging of the TF2 models) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjdDyvGE8gE He also voiced Tron again in the Tron: Legacy animation and while that is definitely more of an action role it managed to fit in a fair bit of character work for him to do in a single season of 30 minute episodes where Tron wasn't even the main character. He probably got better since B5 of course.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:42
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Bieeardo posted:I grew up watching him in things like TRON and Scarecrow and Mrs. King, and B5 when it aired in my early twenties. I'm hopelessly biased in favour of the man, regardless of what his actual acting chops may be. He's a pretty good voice actor, though I don't think he's ever been in much in that regard. I only know of 2 credits but they were both pretty good. Check out Tron Uprising (animated prequel to Legacy, its actually pretty good though) and Spec Ops: The Line.
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Apr 27, 2017 01:37
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:Honestly I'm disappointed this man hasn't been in more. He has such an excellent voice, like a rough-hewn knife - sharp yet earthy and rough. He got to voice Tron in the Tron Uprising animated series, which is actually pretty good in contrast to Legacy's blandness. He's a supporting character but he still shows up a lot and gets a few episodes in front.
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Jun 29, 2017 16:51
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I know A Call To Arms isn't great but I consider it at least something to see alongside something like Thirdspace.
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Sep 19, 2017 21:42
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Bareil and Byron. Bareil is silent because Byron is too boring to talk to and Byron won't read Bareil's mind because it's just too boring.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:15
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Besides some of the actors these days the only things I remember about Seaquest is that there was a dolphin and two of the later episodes, one which had terrorists or whatever blowing up gigantic global carbon dioxide scrubbers (because we killed all the plants???) and another where some guys were doing the decidedly non-sea-related activity of being commandos in a jungle. That may have been the same episode or neither being an episode of Seaquest at all.
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fist4jesus posted:I'm having such a nice time doing a rewatch and then BAM King loving Arthur. Which made it an even better time is what you left unsaid of course.
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Feb 23, 2018 06:50
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Not having Winn show up more to get under literally everyone else's skin with pitch perfect disdainful niceness was the one major loss to pushing Bajor to the side in the later seasons.
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Jun 29, 2018 16:07
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It's a political, philosophical, and religious drama that takes place on a space station and only occasionally involves dumb space monsters and archaic references to old literature. Edit: Drink Zima.
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Boxlietner did some really good voice acting in the Tron Uprising TV series and Spec Ops The Line. The big moment at the end of The Line especially.
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Aug 6, 2018 05:22
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Jerry Doyle was a pretty right conservative (I’m sure he would call himself a libertarian) and he brought a lot of that into the character so it makes sense he would ignore the poor until he needs to shoot them.
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Aug 20, 2018 16:17
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:I gave up at the beginning of season five. Is there any point they beat the shadow spiders and won the civil war whats next? The stuff you have to do after you win two wars.
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Jan 8, 2019 07:51
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May 14, 2019 16:39
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Jedit posted:I just started my first rewatch in years, two episodes down and 108 to go. Would anyone be interested in joining in, or hearing my thoughts as I go? What do you think this is, some kind of thread to talk about Babylon 5?
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Jul 3, 2019 00:50
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It's like I don't even have to use a  because its already there.Wait I just did gently caress
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Jul 5, 2019 21:28
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CainFortea posted:No one listens to Zathras I bet even Zathras doesn’t listen to Zathras
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Sep 20, 2019 16:31
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TraderStav posted:This sounds like something Zathras would say. Zathras would never say that! Zathras might though.
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Oct 11, 2019 23:48
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TraderStav posted:I suspect this will mean a lot more and/or be much funnier as I march through the seasons. In The Beginning is a prequel to all of the TV show, though it does use a framing device from the future of the show. It also makes heavy references to the episodes that had been aired. Thirdspace and River of Souls are mostly self contained side stories that don’t have much to do with the TV plots but I think are mostly enjoyable.
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Oct 12, 2019 00:18
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Oh yes you should still watch Thirdspace and River where they are intended but they don’t have anything “vital”
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Oct 12, 2019 01:50
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View From the Gallery is one of those low-key best episodes types. You don’t think about it much until someone mentions it but when it’s brought up you can’t think of anything bad about it.
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Nov 10, 2019 07:41
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Jedit posted:It is amusing that the myth lasted long enough to perpetuate, but Earthgov still managed to get hold of Centauri DNA before they did an X-ray. Their ambassadors just leave it lying around everywhere.
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Nov 20, 2019 22:20
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Pick posted:no one had to know this, but the most "kudos"'d babylon 5 fanfiction on the big fanfic archive is Marcus / Neroon? what the gently caress is THAT about It’s pretty consistent across all fiction that when there are two men who fight and then come to respect each other after the fight that a significant number of people also want them to gently caress.
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Dec 10, 2019 05:15
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Ok who died. Oh whew.
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Garibaldi’s a 90’s TV cop and it is a bad time to be a 90’s TV cop.
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That's a pretty good smilie.
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It’s a symptom of fan projects and the time it takes to do them and not at all about the talents of the person creating them but so many of these videos look way too much like a video game cutscene for me to like them too much. I’ve seen a few DS9 videos that evoke the same feeling. I know this is a weird thing to say about the CGI on Babylon 5!
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Apr 23, 2021 05:47
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CainFortea posted:Okay, first of all, all of you suck not getting the monty python reference. No we got it. We’re just ignoring it 
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Apr 24, 2021 21:27
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Two observations. 1) Londo would definitely be the one to double it up. 2) Marcus would definitely be too big of a dork to flip anything at all.
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CainFortea posted:-In The Pale Moonlight That’s a pretty big exaggeration based on a single episode that arguably makes the case that what happened was a bad thing. Edit: Like, look at Duet. If you wanted to really over simplify that episode you could reduce it down to “DS9 likes Nazi concentration camp guards and wants to rehabilitate them in the eyes of society” but that is very much not what the episode is about.
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Aug 8, 2021 18:48
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CainFortea posted:My post had more than one example in it. And there were others I just didn't bring up. I don’t quite understand what you mean with the Maquis though. Just because a character in a piece of fiction is allowed to present their case doesn’t mean that the fiction endorses them. Even assuming the Maquis are fundamentally wrong at their core and are always wrong about everything should the Federation just gone in and attacked them? If not what other options were there? They weren’t going to leave willingly and stop (what they consider) defending themselves. In the very early episodes of the Maquis they were presented as much as much closer analogue to the Bajoran resistance. They were only interested in fighting the Cardassians to defend their homes. Could they have just packed up and left? Of course they could have, the Federation alone is a seemingly endless expanse of planets people can live on happily, but if you’re going to take Star Trek at face value only then you are going to quickly lose sight of the forest for the trees. The entire setting is simply too self contradictory episode over episode. The Maquis don’t want to leave and why should they be forced to? That’s as far as the show ever wanted to take the idea. Would it be fair to guess that one of your other examples would be Sisko gassing an entire planet with an anti-human-only magic chemical? Because that kind of retaliation would have been the only way to permanently dislodge the Maquis (see the Jem’Hadar a year or two later). But since that attack was against the Maquis and Maquis are wrong then that attack must have been a good thing? I would also point out that the Maquis and their cause came up in TNG, which is what I’m assuming you’re comparing DS9 too, as well. There was a whole episode in TNG dedicated to a Starfleet officer sympathizing with and then defecting to the Maquis. There’s another related episode where the Enterprise is forcibly relocating colonists out of the area the Maquis started in and which ends with the Federation people renouncing their citizenship. Is that TNG endorsing the Maquis cause? Star Trek has always been messy and full of bad things happenings and compromises being made.
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Pale Moonlight is an episode about how small compromises in the name of a “greater good” will inevitably lead to larger and larger compromises until you’ve forgotten what that greater good even was. It ends with a man desperately trying to convince himself that the ends justify the means and failing. It’s also a Star Trek episode so everything’s back to normal next time.
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They should leave Kosh’s shop as low rez as the original.
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The United States posted:The movies are on iTunes, sold as a complete "season" pack for $30, which is absolutely more than they are worth. I will always ever so slightly boost Thirdspace as the most okay B5 TV movie. It's barely connected to anything in the franchise at all besides knowing who the characters are so you can just watch it whenever. A Call to Arms is... adequate, it at least serves to give some closure on the hanging Drakh thread from the seasons. I don't like them enough to even attempt to argue with a theoretical someone who thinks they are actually the worst things ever but I think they're worth trying if you liked Babylon 5.
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Chevy Slyme posted:Never an opening credits cast member though, even if he and Ed Wasser were far and away the most prominent recurring guests. Much like Andrew Robinson/Garak in DS9 the presence they lent to the show far outweighed the contribution they made strictly in terms of time.
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jng2058 posted:What I've always wondered is to what degree the population of Minbar is split between the castes. Is it really a 33%/33%/33% split? Because if so, then the Workers are doing miracles to support the other 2/3rds of the population who aren't producing anything but need everything built for them! I think it was only mentioned a few times, if not only once, but the worker caste is something like at least 80% of the population.
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Data Graham posted:I just saw them in an ad for some online casino. It was the saddest loving thing They’ve been a Vegas exclusive show for like two decades now. I don’t think they care about what kind of casino is paying them as long as it’s paying.
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Oberndorf posted:Dunno his religious persuasion, but a lot of righties have a strong Christian streak. No a lot of right wingers proclaim a strong religious belief - usually very loudly, extremely often, and uninvited. A thing normal people definitely do about deeply held beliefs.
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