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Lol at people totally fine with 30fps. Good future example for companies- no more need to optimize games because people will be fine with poo poo locks! That and you probably didn't put some money into a good enough computer to expect good performance. Same stuff with preorder exclusives, in game microtransactions - same group of people who don't really care if their game is filled with crap and make fun of others for wanting a quality product.
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CJacobs posted:I would rather they shoot for a stable 30 that they know they can hit than a variable 60 that fluctuates like a rollercoaster. That's my logic, take it or leave it. This isn't the console market though... people have different setups that range from not being able to run the game to being to run it 60+. Why lock out a good portion of consumers? Like literally every other game on the PC doesn't have this lock and leaves it up to you to set the settings or upgrade your computer to the power you prefer. The point that I made is that if people are fine with stuff like this, it will continue to perpetuate. Why spend development budget on PC optimization when people will be fine with 30FPS? Why spend money on developing extra content when you can create microtransaction to make the $$?
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Oct 6, 2016 22:13
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CJacobs posted:Nobody is locked out of playing a videogame by it being targeted at 30 fps. You're only locked out if you choose to have a moral standing against it. It's a self-imposed barrier. I agree that it is better to leave it in the hands of the end-user to tweak their own settings but the only people it's locking out are snooty dudes who turn up their nose at "console plebs". I don't know, PC Game developers have managed to have unlocked FPS games for 20+ years without the market crashing and just now we need to start adding restrictions? Lack of logic bro.
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Oct 6, 2016 22:21
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CJacobs posted:What I mean is that if they lifted all the restrictions they put, then sure, people could play it at 60 fps and it'd wiggle back and forth between 60 and 30 and they'd complain about that instead. No matter what they do, they cannot win with how their game is or isn't poorly optimized, so what's the point of condemning them for making the safe and obvious choice?? I don't understand this reasoning considering like all PC games are like that. Your PC sucks? It will oscillate between 20-40. Turn down the settings. Your PC is great? 60+ FPS (if optimized well.) The only time they get poo poo is if it's badly optimized and you have a beastmode computer and it runs at 30, but capping it at 30 doesn't really fix that but makes it glaringly obvious there isn't optimization to let it run 30+ on configs. Point being is they will get poo poo if they badly optimize it whether or not they lock the FPS, so they should just unlock it because that's what everyone else does. (if I was them I'd let it run unlocked and hope that theres enough bizarro configs out there that run it great and peeps can be like "Hey dudes my setup runs great")
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Oct 6, 2016 22:32
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LIKEINEEDTHIS posted:Is the game good?  Imagine the 30FPS line stamping on a human face forever, that's how good it is.
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Oct 6, 2016 22:36
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:So, Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Diablo and Tomb Raider (all '96 PC releases) were, at the time, held to a 60fps standard? I have never before seen people fight so hard for regression in technology and development. It is true, Idiocracy has arrived.
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Oct 6, 2016 22:45
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tap my mountain posted:From the dev's reaction, it sounds like the fps lock was unintended so I don't see the point in arguing about how it's leading to the downfall of gaming as a whoke PR evasion while they figure out how to fix the shitstorm.
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Oct 6, 2016 22:48
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Nuts and Gum posted:A game engine internally developed at 2k is not the same as DOOM. It's likely they hit a time crunch and, like CJacobs said, had to choose between shipping something that dropped frames excessively, or ran stable at 30fps locked in. The dev's have ack'd the public response to this and said a fix is on the way. There is nothing to complain about jesus christ. Lol. Anyways, I can't really remember the last time I played a game under 60FPS. PC privilege I guess 
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Oct 6, 2016 23:02
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wjs5 posted:Ahh the slippery slope argument awesome. It would be funny if it wasn't true: see the influx of microtransactions and DLC's the past few years. Not hard to prove. Oh and preorders. Oh and early access. Why is it hard to extend that to: "hey gamers don't really care about FPS, so why spend resources to have 60+"?
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Oct 6, 2016 23:03
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wjs5 posted:Huh I could have sworn DOOM came out not to long ago and didnt have any real issue and is amazing. Of course it did well, and then you have the disasters of preorders and early access that did not do well. Your point?
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Oct 6, 2016 23:15
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:That's a very interesting take on my comment. Not really based on reality, unfortunately, but interesting nonetheless. Oh man we got an old-timer - sorry for misunderstanding you sensei.
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Great Joe posted:GIFs don't go faster than 50 FPS, dingus. I'm sorry your browser sucks.(Chrome master race)
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Oct 7, 2016 00:01
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Great Joe posted:The least frame delay supported by Chrome is 0.02 seconds. 50FPS. I'm switching back to Netscape.
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Oct 7, 2016 00:09
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Roobanguy posted:man what the heck happened to this thread... 30FPS happened. 
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Oct 7, 2016 00:40
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Bought it against my better judgement and hard crashed 3 times before I could even get through the tutorial opening, one so bad I had to restart my comp. Welp this is why Steam has refunds I guess Hey man, crashes are just part of PC gaming - why do you expect the devs to have a game that runs without crashes on every spec? It's impossible. 2K tried their best
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Oct 7, 2016 00:55
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incorporeal posted:Ah yes. Adults crying about a game they don't have to buy are the rational people. Sure. Lol I don't get it, they hosed up the launch of a PC game and we're criticizing them. People like you come in and defend the company, like what? Are you working for 2K? Are you a game dev offended people are criticizing them? I don't really care if this game flops or not, but I have a right to criticize the poo poo out of it left and right as I see fit. (and you have a right to cry because of me)
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Oct 7, 2016 02:37
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incorporeal posted:When did I defend 2k? "Adults crying about a game they don't have to buy are the rational people. Sure." You're implying people who are criticizing the game are adults who are just crying about it. Not because the game has flaws, but just because we're crybabies. Instead, we should just not buy the game. I get that, I support that - but I'm not crying, I'm just pointing out how dumb this release is.
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Oct 7, 2016 02:47
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incorporeal posted:Well. Yeah. I can see that as defending 2k. But I'm not. I just don't think video games are worth being so upset about. Not worth any of this. I wouldn't consider shitposting on an entertainment forum as "being so upset." At least I'm not.
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Oct 7, 2016 02:58
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If anything this thread's convinced me to reinstall Mafia 1, that poo poo doesn't get old.
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Oct 7, 2016 03:01
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littleorv posted:Well Mafia III has been out for a while now so I guess I'll come check out the thread for some opinions on the game and decide whether I'll buy it in the morning Mafia 3 unlocks in like an hour for me, I thought this thing had a global release time? You guys all pirating or something? (Maybe that's why you guys don't give a poo poo about quality, who cares when it's free LOL)
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Oct 7, 2016 03:37
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Cojawfee posted:Out for a while? Did a bunch of people get early access to the game somehow? It shows as being unlocked in an hour for me. High five
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Oct 7, 2016 03:37
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Davoren posted:I paid $32 for this game, if you didn't shop around for the best deal that's on you.
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Oct 7, 2016 04:17
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Oct 7, 2016 04:30
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John Romero posted:get a grown up job Working at gamestop doesn't count as a real job homie.
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Oct 7, 2016 04:54
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:Oh, that's the game we're playing! OK, my turn: Nice meltdown. Anyways, game seems good to me other than the 30fps crapoli. I don't have any control issues, the combat and controls are pretty tight and functional for me. TheShrike fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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) But, maybe I missed the FPS Holy Wars of the early-to-mid-'90s, maybe I'd learn something new... or maybe not. Please keep defending your hill against the drat dirty low-FPS-havers, however, you're doing a fine job! 
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Oct 7, 2016 23:27
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Maybe I'm low brow as gently caress, but the story has got me captivated. And the music... the music! Fantastic (that scene with Rolling Stones "Paint it Black" was sublime)
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Oct 8, 2016 01:04
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After playing for a bit, I think the game would have been much better if all that filler missions between actual "story" missions were cut off. But then it might be ridiculously short...
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Oct 8, 2016 20:20
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Lol, you literally complete missions to let you have access to confront a dude, and the guy is literally in the same place you just came from but with enemies refreshed. Suuch a waste of time.
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Oct 8, 2016 22:07
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New PC patch: game runs flawlessly. Except now I get confused cuz they switched the enter car button from F to E.
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My biggest complaint about this game is that Clay won't stop wearing that drat ratty military jacket. It's hideous. Get some fashion sense Lincoln.
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Oct 9, 2016 02:19
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Davoren posted:Not sure why people are ragging on this for being repetitive, its no more repetitive than any other open world game. The gunplay and story are excellent, and I've been fortunate enough to avoid the technical problems some people are having. Extremely pleased with this game so far. I wouldn't have as big of an issue with it other than when you are taking over a district you have to literally repeat the same place at least two times for every district. GTA 5 wasn't like this, I don't remember Saints Row being like this, Just Cause series is pretty close but the whole point of that game is blowing poo poo up. I like this game, but I feel like it's become an MMO right now with brief pauses of cool story and then back to the grind.
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Ahh, of course I wanted to repeat the huge bathhouse. And of course I wanted to repeat the crane mission. And the distillery. And the boatyard. I swear this is the first single-player game with such a level of repetition. Still fun but daaaamn.
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Oct 9, 2016 04:28
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Oct 9, 2016 04:35
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The repetition may suck, but drat the big mission setpieces make up for it (big hotel mission... drat good)
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Oct 9, 2016 05:35
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Cojawfee posted:Do later rackets take longer? People complain about too much repetition but for these early racket missions I'm only having to do one side mission before it tells me I've done enough damage. I would say yes. I've ran into things where I've done all the racket missions but then have to troll around the district looking for 1 of 2 randomly generated scenarios (i.e dudes on street selling weed or dudes in cars I gotta follow) to make up the last few $
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Why is there a poltergeist following Lincoln around cutscenes constantly popping his collar? In the boxing fight the referee was blocking me from getting out of the corner.
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Deakul posted:lol if u think $30 or $60 is enough money to get upset about lmao get an adult job kid When you say poo poo like this there should be a rule to put your salary and job lol.
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Man either I suck at these types of games now or this game is harder than usual. Playing on medium and if I got a retaliation squad out on me it's hellish to fight them off, and enemy accuracy is better than I've seen in a game in a long time (i.e sprinting in other games means you don't really get hit much but you will get put down in this game if not in cover.) I like it this way though, the game hasn't really gotten easier as I've played and I'm still sticking to cover / running out of ammo / melee fighting and all that even in late game.
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:In your case it sounds like you should just stop playing? And hopefully posting. You clearly can't handle criticism of a game you play lol. Getting close to the end here, it seems like the latter quarter or so feels less repetitive - at least the cool story missions are closer together it feels like.
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