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Paul Zuvella posted:a: Pitcher WAR is a bad stat for all pitchers, not just relievers. What makes you say this? Is this just fWAR or all types of pitcher WAR?
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:It also punishes guys who outperform their fip because of odd skills that allow for weak fly ball contact, like peak Matt Cain, Dickey or Marco Estrada the last couple years. Well, fWAR specifically does that, which is why I would personally agree that it's a stupid stat. But I think that RA9-WAR is a strong indicator of a pitcher's value over the course of a season, if not necessarily a predictor of his future performance.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:Bartolo Colon's physical will be performed by Dr Pepper Pepsi products are unwelcome in Atlanta.
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Nov 11, 2016 17:30
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bad boy in the boy band posted:Id rather still have him. I think we could have gotten another reliever and won the WS and still kept that guy. We're going to hate that move for the next 20 years. No one with any sense will ever think twice about that move ever again.
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Nov 21, 2016 22:29
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bad boy in the boy band posted:You guys are right, Torres would have been blocked and our IF is locked up for several years. I was in a pissy mood (work SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS this time of year). It just sucks that it was for a rental, the Yankees made out like goddamn bandits, and they're going to get all those guys essentially for free because Chapman is going back there anyway. The goal of a major league baseball team is to win the World Series not to "win" trades and its not like the Cubs aren't totally stacked with young talent on affordable contracts with years and years of team control.
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Nov 22, 2016 16:54
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Inspector_666 posted:Who is this unnamed other dominant reliever the Cubs could have gotten for a pittance? Mark Melancon 
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Nov 22, 2016 20:09
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Inspector_666 posted:Still a rental, cost Washington a guy already in the MLB bullpen and an A-ball prospect. Haha I know I was just being a jerk. If anything it's another argument for not putting too much stock in winning trades.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:36
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Paul Zuvella posted:Well good news, the only contending teams that need centerfielders are the Cubs and Cardinals so you're still gonna see a ton of him! The Nats need a centerfielder 
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Nov 30, 2016 20:29
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tadashi posted:I don't see why they wouldn't keep Espinosa and let the outfield be Cutch-Turner-Harper and fire Werth into the sun. They're paying him 20 million a year to rehab and suck at baseball. Just eat the last year and win games. Because Espinosa's offensive ceiling is like an ~80 wRC+ and Werth put up a 5 win season as recently as 2014.
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Dec 1, 2016 22:28
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tadashi posted:Yeah, but he'll be 38 years old next year and 3 seasons removed from that kind of production. Also, he produced 1.9 bWAR in his first 2 years with the Nats, so his good years have become the outliers. All very true. I would argue that he's been productive when healthy, but you can't assume health when talking about a 38 year-old outfielder. Even so, I'd still rather bet on Werth recapturing a little bit of OBP magic than count on Danny Espinosa to contribute offensively.
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Dec 1, 2016 22:45
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CubsWoo posted:At this point if the Nats are in on Davis I'd almost prefer they get fleeced in whatever panic buy mode they're in since they can't seem to land a single target this winter This happened last year as well and it resulted in the Nats signing Murphy instead of Zobrist and avoiding the Heyward albatross soooooo I'm remaining optimistic for now. I would be surprised if they started overpaying in a panic move since their inability to land trade targets so far seems to stem from them being unwilling to give up their top prospects.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:10
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will_colorado posted:not upset about Desmond as some appear to be. Rosenthal reporting that the intent is to put him at first and then in the outfield sometimes. If that really is the plan I don't get it at all. Part of the motivation of signing someone like Desmond is his defensive versatility. Why stick him at first?
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Carlosologist posted:They completely sold the farm and didn't recognize why they got rejected for Sale, Mike Rizzo needs to get shitcanned asap It's a bad trade but lol
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Dec 8, 2016 00:38
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Nats have an excellent rotation already and didn't have a legitimate center fielder.
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Dec 8, 2016 01:43
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Your Taint posted:But they were going to go in on Sale. Oh for sure it's an overpay. But to suggest that those same prospects would have been better spent on Quintana is misguided imo, since the team didn't neeeeeed pitching but probably just wanted to take a shot at the super rotation with Sale.
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re: Eaton Trade https://twitter.com/barrysvrluga/status/806635449737318400
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sportsgenius86 posted:They still don't Better than McCutchen defensively 
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Dec 8, 2016 04:17
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Niwrad posted:Nationals should have just paid Fowler that money and kept their prospects. Yeah but then they would have had an offensively talented but defensively challenged centerfielder instead of ... 
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Dec 9, 2016 14:01
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Goodbye Danny. You were super frustrating to watch but you did cool stuff sometimes and I will miss your rad facial hair.
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Dec 11, 2016 04:17
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ArtVandelay posted:Are these two pitchers we got anything special or did we just throw Danny into the sun for nothing? I mean, you're not gonna get anyone's top prospects for a utility infielder. From what I read poking around Fangraphs' scouting reports on them for <5 minutes they look like a couple lotto tickets.
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Dec 11, 2016 04:30
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Tanner Roark was millionth-round pick acquired in a trade for the last 10 games of Christian Guzman's career. Anything is possible.
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Dec 11, 2016 04:58
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Sydin posted:Either the Marlins were bluffing or Jansen really wanted to stay in California, since IIRC the rumor was the Marlins offered him $100m. Yes, the Nationals did not commit $16 mil/year to a relief pitcher. It is they who are owned.
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Dec 12, 2016 19:58
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Dec 14, 2016 16:54
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Cheers for the Nats. There aren't very many Nats fans here and Max Scherzer and Bryce Harper are cool. Well, bye.
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Nats apparently signed Adam Lind. This would seem to confirm that they intend to platoon Zimmerman at 1st unless he has a serious bounce back this year. I suppose Lind might also spell Werth in left from time to time too if his outfield defense is anything better than horrid.
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