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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

MrWilderheap posted:

I feel like I missed all this making GBS threads on the white working class when it was happening. Or does calling out Trump's rhetoric as racist count as demonizing all white people?

i'm still not convinced the white working class, rather than the landed white middle class, the elderly, and a lack of dem/progressive/leftist/minority enthusiasm for clinton, were responsible for the results

everybody on the right and on the far left keeps saying it but none of them provide me with anything other than anecdotes and spite when i ask them to prove it

it smells a lot like everybody just buying into a narrative the right has been using forever

Baku fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Nov 12, 2016

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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Serf posted:

it's like people forget all the loving times where armed resistance has been necessary. the battle of blair mountin, the black panthers, the weathermen, etc

i'm sure you're at least partly aware of this but it's not a matter of forgetting, most schools don't talk about that poo poo and the popular narrative of the civil rights movement is that pacifist hero mlk jr got blacks equal treatment by standing around and letting people punch him in the face until their arms got tired

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Admiral Ray posted:

You can check the exit polls but small towns/rural folks overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Suburbs went to Trump as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html



I don't doubt that, what I'm curious about is

1) if it's actually different than how they turned out predictably for the gop in almost every other modern election

2) whether "suburbs went to trump" should be taken as an indicator of how the "working class" or white poor think, because the city mouse/country mouse narrative of rich and poor is some real hokey bullshit (as a person who lives in a rural area with a low cost of living and a bunch of millionaires who voted for donald trump)

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

he's talking about poo poo like this


and is right?

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Oiled and Ready posted:

-say "radical islam"

im the guy who posted that this was the one thing trump was right about, not only believing a stupid thing, but also feeling the need to point out that at least he was right about this one thing

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
i'm torn between legitimate terror about my future, which along with mones is an extreme boner killer, and the intense arousal of knowing how owned the half dozen really self-important and prolific clinton shills must feel right now

is this the beginning of my being a grotesque internet nihilist? am I becoming the very thing I hate?

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
so like if two weeks from now somebody blew open massive ballot rigging in several battleground states what would they even loving do

is there any circumstance under which they just flat out have a do-over and vote again?

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

well. because maybe im sitting on the evidence

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Fix posted:

"Radical Sislam...gently caress!"

Horn Blows

"They're everywhere!"

the reason obama wont say it is that prior presidents have said it twice, and the third time will open the seal

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

false flag

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

radical meme posted:

At this point, it seems like a truism that U.S. capitalism's rush towards global trade has scarred the American working class; all of it, not just white working class. It's also true that part of the offshoring is definitely due to U.S. regulations and wage requirements. I guess Trump could remove all regulations and get rid of the hourly wage all together. Do we really want Cleveland to have the air quality of Beijing and everyone working two jobs just to make the house payment? There's trade offs that are going to have to be made, I'm just not sure how ready the U.S. workforce is to make them.

They don't want to pay any trade-offs and they want something that's never, ever going to happen and all the while as we fight about it robotics and artificial intelligence are improving to make it so there's literally no use for unskilled labor in the marketplace sooner rather than later

Submit to death already dude

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
jesus gently caress if the slime man ends up on the scotus

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Actually I believe that it's entirely probable that Trump puts Ted Cruz on the Supreme Court.

Cruz at least believes it's possible; him making campaign calls for Trump is one of the saddest, most owned things that happened during the entire election

He might be the biggest weasel in DC and it owns how far he's come despite the fact that everybody from both parties seems to think he's some mixture of awful and pathetic

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Venom Snake posted:

What.....we have to......govern?

*ques up more Clinton hearings*

this is the best of all possible ends. let them spend the next 2 years trying to put clinton in jail.

gently caress, put her in jail for all I care.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

euphronius posted:

Jailing republican opponesnts is not good mates

what does that have to do with jailing clinton :smug:

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
honestly I unironically believe that we should be calling every single act of violence against a trump supporter a false flag

everybodys' faith in gatekeepers and institutions is gone so pretty much any narrative anybody makes up is going to be taken seriously by somebody (this is part of how the election happened, and one of the lessons the left should learn)

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

RandomBlue posted:

You're a false flag!

gently caress

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Marie Furie posted:

but I 100% believe that Trump is considering Romney because he likes the way Romney looks

do u think he realizes that the public don't get to vote on secstate

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

The Saurus posted:

anti-russkie

Haha that guy doesn't like Russia what a loving dip poo poo

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

I'm one of the people who deeply mistrusted and disliked Trump during the primaries but now that he's promised to appoint a bunch of stooges and refuses to attend security/intelligence briefings bc they're boring I think he's doing great

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Nichael posted:

I don't know who this "Chris-chan" is so alright, I'm in his company?

He's the autistic man in question and the only way The Saurus could possibly have met his wife "reading Sonichu comics" (the weird comics he draws) is if they were both obsessively following a forum or thread dedicated to watching an autist melt down in real time

In other words he thinks some tepid burn that amounts to "you're bad because you're like the autistic person I find 'fascinating and funny'" is a good way to own you, which should tell you everything you need to know

The Saurus posted:

when I said I didn't like Mexico because they shot their own attempted illegal immigrants while saying America should have open borders in a clear display of hypocritical, cynical self-interest I was attacked as a racist. What's changed and why is it okay to do that for Russia?

Are you suddenly allowed to dislike entire countries and their peoples for the decisions of their government again now its convenient?

Please link the post where I called you a racist for saying you don't like the Mexican government, I'll wait as long as it takes

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

The Saurus posted:

And Trump is better than Hillary if only because he is turning back a few of the tenets of neoliberalism, like global free trade, the drug war (at least on weed) and open border[illegal if necessary] mass immigration (which under capitalism is just a ploy to increase the reserve army of labour and drive down wages and conditions, with accusations of racism as necessary for opponents).

My extremely socialist friend, I advise you at least wait and see if Trump actually "turns back a few of the tenets of neoliberalism" once he's in office before you declare that Donald Trump, the Republican President-Elect of the United States, is your ally.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
It's almost like acceleration does nothing but throw suffering people under the bus now in exchange for the promise that in some potential future their descendants will be freer and happier than they could possibly imagine

Funny thing about dead people and descendants...

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Kurtofan posted:

hell, he's not wrong

Three out of five, what an interesting number

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Thump! posted:

Only if you're not white.

Us white guys got it made in the shade :smugdon:

as long as you don't do drugs or have gay/weird sex, and at that point, why even bother?

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

cumshitter posted:

im 99.9% convinced that all of you are g-men meant to trick me into loving our overstepping government. But you're doing a good job of it, i enjoy you're posting even if you're trying to convince me to come out of my bunker

haha yeeeeah but in all seriousness which CSPAM poster is the guy the government is using to keep tabs on us because of LF

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

I literally have a Sandernista on FB right now telling me the DNC wanted the media to cover Trump for free because they wanted Trump to win the election, therefore stealing it from Bernie Sanders.

I got in a argument with a Dem volunteer last night who believes Bernie Sanders was the main reason that Clinton lost the election, and that he is a misogynist who should be ashamed of himself for getting Trump elected. It is his sincere belief that every "self-entitled millennial" who voted for Stein or Johnson because they love weed and hate "the establishment" only did so because Bernie Sanders rabble-roused them, and that they would've voted for Clinton otherwise.

He does not believe the Clinton campaign committed any strategic or logistical errors, and that Clinton was actually a perfect candidate.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Regular Nintendo posted:

Just quoting a random baloogan post to say gently caress you, melt your pancreas already

Will his body fail him before the end of Trump's second term

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

brugroffil posted:

yes, and Trump poo poo on them while taking a question from them

we're at the point where you're going to need to clarify if this is literal or figurative

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

gently caress the intel community

I'm sure whatever trump replaces the cia with is going to be way more upright and do less torture and stuff lmao

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Admiral Ray posted:

the man in the pleather mask

that's trump, actually.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Fidel Castronaut posted:

Even with all the quid pro quo I have every faith that his sons will find some way to gently caress the family business up. It is a family tradition to be given a bunch of money and then somehow still lose it all.

they're gonna piss it all away

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
tbh climate change denial feels like one of the few top-down messages in the trump camp, bc deregulation is one of (maybe the only) thing he actually cares about

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

get that OUT of my face posted:

and even if trump gets impeached (debatable), what makes you think he'd take it gracefully?

who gives a poo poo if he "takes it gracefully"; everybody knows he'd be mad or upset or whatever and they wouldn't let him nuke the whole world as a last-minute gently caress you

and wrt pence being worse... I would agree if there were any indication that the trump white house was gonna be anything other than a puppet regime for the gop anyway, in which trump stamps whatever the republicans want him to from the comfort of trump tower in between googlin piss teen movies and attending self-congratulatory rallies and press conferences with carefully cultivated press pools

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
the whole "but pence would be worse" thing makes no sense because trump is pretty much exactly like reagan and gwb, an empty suit who likes feeling like an important man and thinks/does whatever the last person who talked to him tells him

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Serf posted:

boosted quaking in his boots at the thought of a wrongly imprisoned dude gettin outta jail lol

it takes courage to admit that you're absolutely terrified of a transwoman computer nerd murdering you

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
so taking the theory that assange is dead seriously, who did it?

wouldn't clinton or the dnc have done it sometime between knowing how hosed and compromised their poo poo was and election day?

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Tiler Kiwi posted:

how dare u attempt to predict what the joker would do

yeah im pretty sure the joker would be vehemently anti-nazism just because it's the wackiest and least predictable choice

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

I mean I guess this is kind of good news but I'm not sure what difference it makes when the authorities enforcing the bans have already demonstrated that they don't give a flying gently caress what the courts think

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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

unnoticed posted:

This is the problem with approval of punching Nazis. We have a tendency to call everyone we disagree with a Nazi.

it's actually acceptable to do this when the person you're disagreeing with is a nazi, and our failure to accept that (instead rationalizing that the only thing worse than being a fascist was falsely labeling somebody one) is part of why we're in this wacky predicament

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