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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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corn in the bible posted:

haha remember when dems owned both houses and the presidency and couldnt even pass a health care bill without gutting it

Dems never really had both houses, they had 51 (Lieberman counting) with Ted Kennedy dying while the vote was being taken. His replacement voted yes on the Senate bill, got removed in the special election by a Republican. So they basically had to run with the already voted Senate version in the House as there was zero chance in getting it through otherwise.

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Cythereal posted:

Oh gently caress. :( I literally had nightmares about this last night. Please tell me I'm still dreaming.



Seriously though, shook nate was right

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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WampaLord posted:

Reminder that our President elect has a trial coming up on the 28th.

Trial is in civil court, not criminal.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Spiffster posted:

My LGBT friends and families will get their marriages overturned by new legislation passed by the GOP

This one I don't see happening unless we get a Constitutional Amendment, which really would drive Democratic voting through the roof.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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corn in the bible posted:

you're an idiot then

They've had to get a case that fits the category through the courts in order to overturn it. Going against precedent like that is pretty rare and it would also completely gently caress up marriage licenses as a whole cause you'd then have to deal with grandfathered in marriages from 2015->whenever it gets overturned. SCOTUS really isn't going to want to deal with that.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Ratoslov posted:

Nothing. You can totally hold office from a prison cell in the U.S., and can in fact run for office from there too. So I'd imagine his first act of office would be pardoning himself.

The President cannot pardon himself.

(Otherwise Nixon would have done it)

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/797853799402639360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Twofer right there.

derek smart's subforum commander

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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:wow:

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Fojar38 posted:

lol there will be riots when ACA is repealed

the million hoveround march

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/798256277281443841

https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/798284733830623237

Keep telling everyone that we're overreacting by thinking the GOP will set American equality back 50 years, America :allears:

It's amazing the LBJ came out of this state.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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But yeah, denying Obama a Scalia replacement is horseshit but good thing nothing will ever come of it.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Zero chance of it happening but it would be funnier than hell if it was just a continuous cacophony of Trump transition anecdotes until it ends up the electors didn't actually vote him in on Dec. 19.

I mean good god, where do you find these chucklefucks. Even the epitome of the Rise of the Common Man, good ol' Jackson had less of a clusterfuck thus far.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Harrow posted:

Jesus god :cripes:

Wasn't there some stink about Schumer cutting off the Murphy campaign in FL to basically funnel money to his own or something?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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DaveWoo posted:

So just out of curiosity, what's there to stop a Trump-backed infrastructure bill from being corrupt as all hell, and serving to funnel hundreds of millions of dollars into Trump's own companies?

Trump doesn't actually own construction or engineering, so unless each construction worker is being solely in Trump Brand Steak Rations effectively nil.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Cigar Aficionado posted:

So just to get this straight, your new President is going to constantly, brazenly lie to the American people about what he's said, what he's done, etc, and that's just going to be mostly considered "whatevs", for the next 4-8 years?

Lol.

Do you not remember the Bush years, like, at all?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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It would take just losing power to flood the NY subway system, it already has to be pumped to function.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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crazy cloud posted:

Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people.

Are you, in fact, Mike Dukakis?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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ACLU posted:

Attorney general nominee Jeff Sessions called for constitutional amendment to stop granting automatic citizenship to people born in the U.S.

:stare:

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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http://i.imgur.com/bZve1d5.mp4

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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botany posted:

:chanpop: where the gently caress is that from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q__bSi5rBlw

quote:

M.A.M.O.N. (Monitor Against Mexicans Over Nationwide) is a satirical fantasy sci-fi shortfilm that explores with black humor and lots of VFX the outrageous consequences of Donald Trump´s plan of banning immigration and building an enormous wall on the Mexico - US border.

The dark comedy showcases a spectacular fight involving bizarre weapons, and numerous dark jokes about the cliches and stereotypical antics of the Mexican and Latino community, as the quinceañera, the quetzalcoatl, the lucha libre, the mariachi, the chapulín colorado, etc.

Came out before the election, apparently.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Business Gorillas posted:

Let's look at how that appointment process is going *opens door to a room completely engulfed in flame*

"Beelzebub, Mr. Trump will see you now. "

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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SeANMcBAY posted:

Not as much as her being born in Thailand.

Eh, if Ted Cruz could probably get into the presidency then she could.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Hollismason posted:

It seems that Trump may pick Tom Price for HHS. I have no idea other than he's a actual Doctor ,but also he wants to get rid of ACA so it does not make sense.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/11/tom-price-health-human-services-secretary-donald-trump-231632



Wow



:stare:

Didn't the high risk pool run out of money like 3 years before it was supposed to as it is?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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cult member at airport posted:

Actually, there might actually be some merit to that. Instead of making equivalent fake news for liberals, people on the left should start making their own conservative fake news. Inundate the market with claims ranging from believable to outright nonsense. Create so much noise that it's impossible to tell whether ChristianFreedomNews.org or CrookedDNCLeaks.biz are legitimate fake news sites or not. Get them arguing with eachother over which fake news is real and which isn't. While you're at it, donate some of the money you make from their pageviews to progressive causes.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Kobayashi posted:

Holy poo poo, no. Trump is not moderating or walking back poo poo. In 12 goddamn days he's named an actual goddamn white supremacist as his chief advisor, named an actual goddamn racist as AG, named a lunatic as national security advisor, publicly threatened the NY Times, publicly threatened SNL, publicly threatened the cast of a musical, settled a massive fraud suit, then bragged about it on Twitter, held shady meetings with foreign officials in Trump hotels, violated norms for press access, refused to categorically rule out a registry for Muslims, and a bunch of other poo poo I'm probably forgetting about. And this is when he's in his most magnanimous. Trump is going to bulldoze this goddamn country.

Start putting pressure on the republican electors for decehahahahhahhahahahaha they're going to be sucking on the Golden Hair'd One's teat until Revelations happens.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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https://twitter.com/tbonier/status/800683256601575424

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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In Michigan News:

quote:

Detroit school children have no fundamental right to literacy, according to Gov. Rick Snyder’s attorneys, in the midst of a suit claiming the poor reading skills of Detroit students at five schools, deplorable building conditions, and lack of basic classroom necessities are the fault of the state.

Rick Synder's Michigan is an ever increasing horrorscape of Republican governance.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Trabisnikof posted:

But it was Rick Snyder arguing they don't have a right to learn to read....

This. Michigan has been hosed up for quite a while (Detroit especially) but Snyder has turned the old headline 'Ford to New York: Drop Dead' into reality.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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https://twitter.com/lannadelgrey/status/800817349427347456

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Bullfrog posted:

I'm skeptical of the vote audit thing, but the idea of an election hack sends a chill down my spine. It would be a different world.


The move to go to electronic voting is really just the dumbest considering the only country to really use it on a massive scale is India (a paragon of anticorruption, to be sure). Everybody else rolled it out in limited amounts, found they couldn't secure it, and then got rid of it.

Mind you, the reason W. got the presidency was mainly because Sandra Day O'Connor made had no qualms about ruling in a case involving a family she had a long and substantial friendship with.

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Nov 23, 2016

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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We're through the looking glass here folks.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Shitbird McCrory is formally filing for recounts to keep his tenuous grasp on the NC Gov.

quote:

North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory has formally requested a statewide recount of votes in his close race with Democratic challenger Roy Cooper, as pressure mounts on the incumbent Republican to concede two weeks after the election.

McCrory finished fewer than 10,000 votes behind Cooper, the state's attorney general, allowing McCrory the opportunity to ask for a recount under North Carolina law. Yet Cooper's lead has only grown since Election Day, jumping from fewer than 5,000 votes to 6,222 as of Tuesday afternoon, according to the State Board of Elections website. (Cooper's campaign says their lead is actually larger, coming in at 8,569 votes as of Tuesday afternoon.)

McCrory has repeatedly raised concerns of voter fraud, filing complaints in about half of the state's 100 counties. Yet no evidence of widespread fraud has surfaced so far. Furthermore, many of McCrory's own Republican appointees serving on local county election boards have rejected his complaints.

In a statement Tuesday, McCrory's campaign manager doubled down on their concerns about the legitimacy of the state's elections results.

"With many outstanding votes yet to be counted for the first time, legal challenges, ballot protests and voter fraud allegations, we must keep open the ability to allow the established recount process to ensure every legal vote is counted properly," said Russell Peck, McCrory's campaign manager. The press release added that the formal recount will not occur until county boards of election finish tallying the results — a process that has been slowed due to factors including Republican-led challenges.

(rest of the article):
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/north-carolina-gov-pat-mccrory-files-recount-challenger-s-lead-n687291

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

list of people who have ran successful national democratic party:

James Farley.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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themrguy posted:

How safe is Ellison's district? It's turbo-blue, right?

At this point would you trust any so called blue district that didn't have a statue of Karl Marx in the town square?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Hollismason posted:

It also solidifies his legitimacy because they could have just talked about and hinted at this for years and built up a good fervor over it but that all goes away when the recount comes back and "Whoops, looks like he's legit". It's just a politically stupid move and it doesn't surpise me Jill Stein is involved.

Donald Trump is 100% the legitimate President - Elect and soon to be president. People are going to really need to start accepting this.

Tbh it seems more like rear end covering should faithless electors actually influence the election (they won't)

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Lead out in cuffs posted:

I've actually been reading a book about the rise and fall of Detroit, and looking around a bit at stats, and those towns all peaked in the 1940s during WWII. Both manufacturing jobs and population have been in steady decline ever since.

So more like 60-70 years ago.

Half the reason why Oregon has so few minorities is because the town that housed them during shipbuilding in WW2 literally got flooded by the state after the war, leaving thousands homeless. People promptly bugged the gently caress out after that.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Trabisnikof posted:

If we economically embargoed any other Caribbean like we did Cuba, then created special immigration law for refugees who float to America from there I bet people would try. Ideology aside.

We essentially did the same thing for Haiti but over a longer time period of the West just pissing on them for having the only successful slave rebellion (and slaughtering any remaining French civillians on the island after they won). The French sitting a fleet off the coast and demanding slave reparations to be paid to them took literally over a century for Haiti to pay off. Then we invaded and ran Haiti for a couple decades.

Small wonder Haiti is basically the disaster zone of the Western Hemisphere. Papa Doc and Baby Doc didn't do them any favors but still.

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Nov 26, 2016

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
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Guy Goodbody posted:

Who the gently caress gives a kids piano recital a poor review?



also trump.jpg?

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