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Trabisnikof posted:Obama can pardon Clinton to prevent the post-election prosecution by Guilani or Christie or whoever. But in doing so that will of course be used as proof positive for every single conspiracy. It will be proof she personally killed Vence etc. What if he simultaneously pardons Trump for mail fraud with Trump U and tax poo poo with the Trump Foundation
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Shadokin posted:I voted for Hillary. 9 million less democrat votes then 2008. 5 million less then 2012. Trump got less votes then John god drat McCain and people are trying to blame a whole race of people for his winning instead of the real problem that Democrat voters did not show up too the pole. The only people to blame are Trump voters If they didn't vote for Trump, he wouldn't be president-elect
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greatn posted:Simple. Move the embassy to Jerusalem, but also make a new embassy in Ramallah. Everybody wins, everybody's happy. OIC wants Jerusalem to be Palestine's capital
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Liquid Communism posted:That is one thing I desperately hope the upcoming purge of the Democratic Party allows. Driving out the ancient corpses lurking in the DNP who feel it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE to endlessly tilt at the gun control windmill no matter the costs. Ancient corpses such as black lives matter
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So manufacturing jobs aren't coming back, but if Congress gives Trump he infrastructure bill they wouldn't give Obama, that's a ton of construction jobs And of course they could have done that at any time over the past six years but that would have made a Democrat look good gently caress unity These fuckers deserve poo poo
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:I am honestly curious if the Republicans can do anything. Not legally. I mean can a congress that did nothing even when Republicans controlled the senate and house actually accomplish anything? It is easy to be against Obama and just be a sour piss baby about everything, but actually planning and doing poo poo is a lot harder. I don't think Republicans can create a big infrastructure project or build a giant wall. That poo poo is not easy. Strong sense of "what's the point if Obama's just gonna veto it"
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Nov 11, 2016 05:02
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Sharkopath posted:Don't worry, Ryan is already planning on destroying medicare entirely and replacing it with private carriers lmao. They're gonna make Obamacare into Medicare for all by making Medicare Obamacare checkmate, libs
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mcmagic posted:Terrific messaging on the court from Jeff Merkley today. twitter video if you don't want to deal with msnbc player https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/796889257344282625
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Nov 11, 2016 06:25
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mcmagic posted:Yeah Trump only got 63% of the vote in Kentucky. obama's biggest failures were: a) not prosecuting bush's torture program, opening door for trump to bring it back b) fbi director comey as bipartisan gesture that went nowhere, who apparently if reporting from both trump and clinton camps can be believed, singlehandedly delivered election to trump with that bullshit last-second stunt
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Guy Goodbody posted:I also don't think the last minute EMAILS letter was reason Trump won. Trump's data team thinks it was
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Nov 11, 2016 07:02
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Nov 11, 2016 07:29
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negromancer posted:Especially since black people have to deal with long term unemployment, have to deal with it for longer periods, and at higher rates. yeah, really weird how black people, who were hurt worse from the recession and gained less from the recovery, managed not to vote for trump go figure
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crazy cloud posted:there are leftist fascists all over the place for one,
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Mister Macys posted:The problem is that they'd rather laugh at the one guy that called both the GOP Primary and the General in advance- than take what he had to say seriously. quote:https://web.archive.org/web/20060507011645/http:/donaldtrump.trumpuniversity.com/default.asp?item=98255
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Xequecal posted:Hillary's hard core interventionism in the Middle East is not loving left wing. Even Bush would not have been that aggressive. She destroyed two countries. She also wanted to impose a no fly zone on loving Russia, even Bush would know to stay the gently caress away from that. Next, NAFTA and similar agreements are very much right wing. Illegal immigrant amnesty is also not a goddamn Leftist principle. The only reason she was for it was because of the racism implications since most of them are Hispanic. Obama was immune to having the race card played on him and as such he deported far more illegals than any other President in history. Bush destroyed at least two countries, and probably one more that I imagine you're assigning to Hillary for some reason
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Mister Macys posted:Maybe instead of blaming the six million people that stayed home, the DLC should instead try asking them what it was about their chosen candidate's positions and/or history and/or reputation that made them stay home instead. Hearing leftists complain about the DLC in 2016 is like hearing rightists complain about ACORN It doesn't loving exist any more
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Panzeh posted:Hillary ran on an economic platform that was very acceptable to Goldman Sachs and was very very careful not to expound on any position other than that because she believes finance is and should continue to be the supreme force in american politics. While wrong, that you, and probably a bunch of others, believe this goes a big way to explaining why she lost Like the flip side of why she beat Sanders in the primary: she had a long-established relationship with both the minority base of the Democratic Party and also the 90s' (rightly or wrongly) concept of the start of the decline of rural America
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readingatwork posted:The short version is that after the great depression in the 20's FDR came on the scene and did a bunch of awesome socialist poo poo called the New Deal. This breed of "New Deal" democrat was popular for decades and was characterized by an outlook very similar to Bernie Sanders. Now fast forward to the 90's where Bill Clinton learned that you can often win by abandoning your base and appealing to the center-right (which actually existed at the time) professional STEM major/management class. He did this with stuff like forcing welfare recipients to work or not receive pay, signing trade agreements that allowed for outsourcing, and doubling down on the drug war. This new corporate democrat became known as the "neoliberal" wing of the party and has acted as the leadership ever since. Neoliberal has become something of a bad word in the last 5 years or so as people start to realize that this compromise resulted in a party that stands for little outside of getting their donors more money and doesn't do well in elections since people generally would rather vote for a real Republican over a Republican-lite. Socialists derided the New Deal in largely the same terms that the internet left uses to describe neoliberalism today
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PerniciousKnid posted:And doing what? making every major american city explode in rioting, probably
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It's one thing to say that Hillary should have walked back the deplorables line because it was hurting her (and it's kinda funny coming from the "Hillary is too poll-tested" crowd), but it's another thing to say that Hillary should have walked it back because it was wrong
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Clip-On Fedora posted:https://medium.com/soapbox-dc/democrats-are-about-to-plunge-into-a-civil-war-e2ac6f65eb48#.o9809irrm republicans just did a civil war and won the presidency and both houses of congress this is excellent news!!! for democrats!!!
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HorseRenoir posted:pence side-eyeing him pretty fierce right about now yeah I don't believe him at all, but I'm hoping that other Republicans do
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mcmagic posted:I still can't believe that Trump got over 45% of the union vote in Wisconsin, PA and MI. That is a loving travesty. They're in a union; they already organized on the basis of labor. Yikes
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Media, two months ago: Trump is a racist and an autocrat Media today: why are people so angry he won???
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Hollismason posted:I disagree that he is not painfully ignorant and stupid. look, we're in a situation where Trump passing a trillion dollar infrastructure bill which he then proceeds to just grift the entirety of into Trump-run enterprises would count as a not-worst outcome Pence is just merely terrible in comparison
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Hollismason posted:I'd rather a thief than a zealot How'd is like a least-bad outcome tho
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