uspol november: as it turns out they could not stump the trump

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Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

corn in the bible posted:

it was so bizarre watching the hillary people talk about how OF COURSE all the unaffiliated latinos were voting clinton, she must have an impossible lead. in reality she got about 60% which is obviously more than half but not some kind of magic bullet

So he won about 30% of Latinos and 9-10% of African Americans, both better than 2012 and 2008.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 08:27

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 21:07

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Magical Zero posted:

Great job american retards, great job democrats that strategy of attacking a loving green cartoon frog really worked out. Thanks shitters!!!!

Where will you be when the Pepe commemorative stamp comes out?

# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 08:34

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Clinton should have introduced a meme to counter Pepe.

The whole Pepe/Basket of Deplorables/Alt-Right thing was such a loving stupid needless thing to get caught up in.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 08:36

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/08/omarosa-donald-trump-enemies-placed-list-lindsey-graham/93523010/

quote:

Omarosa Manigault, a former contestant on The Apprentice, and Donald Trump advocate, says those who vote against Trump will be placed on a special �list.�

�It�s so great our enemies are making themselves clear so that when we get into the White House, we know where we stand,� Omarosa told the Independent Journal Review at Trump�s election night party in New York City.

Omarosa specifically mentioned Sen. Lindsey Graham, who announced on Twitter that he voted for another candidate.

�If [Graham] felt his interests was with that candidate, God bless him. I would never judge anybody for exercising their right to and the freedom to choose who they want, but let me just tell you, Mr. Trump has a long memory and we�re keeping a list,� Omarosa told the Journal Review.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:15

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:

It's easy to understand: FYGM.

It's literally what the country was founded on!

# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:15

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Gyges posted:

gently caress it. At this point I might as well root for Donny and his crew to settle their vendetta with the establishment. Burn it all down, Donny. Let's give the people what they voted for.

His presidency will be the most exciting 18 months in American history.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:22

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

iospace posted:

This election broke Frum. He's still probably a republican hack but he loathes Trump.

That video of him from just before the election where he looked like he hadn't shaved in a week and was practically screaming about Trump and the Russians was kind of amazing.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 04:31

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

And yeah I already put this in the election thread but everyone needs to read this because good lord

quote:

In politics, much like anything else, victory has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan. A senior official from Clinton�s campaign noted that they did have a large staff presence in Michigan and Wisconsin (200 and 180 people respectively) while also stressing that one of the reasons they didn�t do more was, in part, because of psychological games they were playing with the Trump campaign. They recognized that Michigan, for example, was a vulnerable state and felt that if they could keep Trump away ― by acting overly confident about their chances ― they would win it by a small margin and with a marginal resource allocation.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 04:32

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Cup Runneth Over posted:

NTH DIMENSIONAL CHESS

We need a new dimension for this, because 11th isn't high enough.

This was 12th-dimensional chess

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 04:40

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Cup Runneth Over posted:

45th-dimensional backgammon

Astral Plane Baccarat

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 04:44

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Unormal posted:

Turns out every single liberal moving to San Francisco didn't work out too well for electoral-college based democracy.

It's going to end up that the entirety of Hillary's Popular Vote win and them some comes down to her margin in California.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 04:47

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Main Paineframe posted:

You know what else would be a good thing? Trump losing in 2020. And that's not gonna happen if he gets to pass the kinds of jobs and infrastructure programs that Democrats couldn't.

Alternatively, the Dems work with him to pass the infrastructure bills and Trump brazenly steers a bunch of the money to companies he's connected to because why wouldn't he

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:03

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Hollismason posted:

His infrastructure program is just tax breaks for corporations and toll roads with some extra pipelines being built etc.. He's not gonna be like " Guess what we're gonna be building all these new bridges etc..."

What I think will happen is

Republicans won't get rid of filibuster

Trump wants to pass some ungodly spending program

Republicans wont commit to spending money or some of them do but some don't

Dems help get a infrastructure bill through

Dems filibuster and play obstructionist all through out forever and ever

Also apparently there are enough House reps (FREEDOM CAUCUS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) who would refuse to vote for a trillion bucks in infrastructure spending unless Trump cuts a trillion dollars elsewhere that this is a thing that likely won't even happen.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:11

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Kobayashi posted:

Republicans get rid of filibuster.

Orrin Hatch and at least two other R-level Senators came out today and said that the Filibuster is staying. This is because they know that if they did the thing Harry Reid would come back the very day Democrats take back the majority in the Senate, take a piece of paper with "NO MORE FILIBUSTERS EVER" written on it, and shove said paper up Mitch McConnell's rear end.

Shifty Pony posted:

And living in an area where such plans have been heavily pushed and have gone in holy poo poo do people goddamn loathe public private partnership toll roads.

Toll roads are a bunch of poo poo.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:19

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

gently caress it though it's hard to blame them

Would you live in Michigan if you had a choice?

Yes because a two-bedroom house doesn't cost $750K

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:30

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

They also know they need Democrat s as a scapegoat to keep Trump in line.

The working theory is that the R's want to keep the filibuster around to let the Democrats keep the truly ridiculous stuff Trump tries to shove through Congress from going into law. Of course that depends on the Dems not going "Well he's your guy and you're all in with him so you must really want it! Let's have a vote!"

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:32

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Hollismason posted:

Schumer is in charge of the Senate Leadership and he is like a complete just loving idiot.

Schumer is a loathsome human being.

Lightning Knight posted:

The Midwest is rear end. It's the South with bad food.

Designing a system to overepresent the rural population will literally be the death of this country as most of the liberal population concentrates into cities.

The alternative poses the opposite problem: Win big in New York and California? Congrats Mister/Madam President!

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:38

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Lightning Knight posted:

I would rather that it actually represented the majority of people, frankly.

Sure that would be ideal, but given current political finance rules you could have a candidate and their allies carpet-bomb 4-5 states (CA, NY, FL, TX, IL) with ads and win that way while paying the other 45 states nothing more than marginal attention.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:45

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

KomradeX posted:

The senator that said that it didn't matter how many Blue Collar guys the Democrats lost in PA, because they would pick up two Republican women in the Suburbs of Philly is exactly the huge type of loving idiot you think. He's gonna fall all over himself to try and help the Republicans do everything they can to have Wall Street continue to gently caress us in the rear end

Never, ever trust the competency of a man of whom people have said "He's never seen a TV camera that he doesn't want to get in front of."

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 05:51

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Furnaceface posted:

If thats where the majority of the population is located how is that unfair?

You know how Hillary Clinton lost by basically ignoring the rural poor? Well with straight Popular Vote you could just skip the pretense and completely ignore the rural poor. There's also the chance that since at Presidential level you could just ignore the rural poor it could have a knock-on effect on legislation, with the chances being that large cities irreversibly become the focal point of everything that goes on the books.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:05

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Hollismason posted:

Ah I see the reasonable " Uproot Rural Poors to somewhere Else" has infected this thread as well. When has relocating a population other than because of a disaster ever worked.

What the hell.

And I like how these people assume these backward rural poors would be relocated to our cities. Like where the gently caress would they go that wouldn't just make rent even more expensive? They'd go to the suburbs, which these people also hate.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:27

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

They would literally just invade and gentrify whole neighborhoods and displace immigrant and minorities to outside of cities.

On the other hand, I'd kill to see a spate of F-150's and RV's try to traverse New York City.

When I went to London in November of '14 on the cab ride in from the airport there was a crazy motherfucker trying to navigate Monday Morning, Rush Hour traffic in London in a loving full-sized Winnebago :stare:

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:31

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Grouchio posted:

How do you know it's from March?

because he's going to march all those muslims onto planes and back out of the country

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:36

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Lightning Knight posted:

Honestly coming from the suburbs, the city is kind of scary. A lotta people and a lotta cars and I detest using public transportation. Rural areas are too inconvenient to actually buy anything you need though.

That said suburban white people are definitely The Worst, myself included.

Average Suburban White Person is fine.
Suburban White Person Who Pretends That They Are Not Suburban White Person is a scourge on humanity.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:42

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

PhazonLink posted:

Why the gently caress would you trust Regressive sentators that all voted Donnie to vote against Donnie now?

Considering what Trump said about him, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a hidden grudge just under the surface of the veins in McCain's forehead.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:48

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Oh yea i forgot Hillary giddily exclaimed they were gonna put the coal miners out in the street like a loving dog

On live television

And in response to the outcry, said she'd work hard to give these newly unemployed people Broadband Internet.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:49

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

boner confessor posted:

terrible plan, fat content is too high

Not in the midwest because the meth and heroin really thins you out.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 06:51

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

I don't think you're going to ever make city boys who don't own a car and think chicken comes from the grocery store 'care' about country folk except maybe in the same sense they could be convinced to care about Afghan women and Iraqis chafing under Saddam's yoke. They're never going to spend much time, like, talking to some Okie to see what they want and get to really appreciate them as a person, except as a self-serving political ploy because the electoral college obligates them to humor people from the empty states sometimes, and that's not a slam on liberals or city people specifically that's just human beings being innately kinda tribal and only really able to prioritize the interests of those they know personally. Acknowledging that affluent urban liberals are simply one more insular, self-interested tribe within the US; one whose advance has generally (and specifically, recently) come at the expense of their countrified counterparts, rather than the ubermensch who has objectively determined the greatest good of all mankind through listening to NPR and merely has to drag the rest of the world kicking and screaming into the light, would go a long way towards establishing a peacable coexistence, but I wouldn't count on the folks in flyover country to lay down their edge in the EC in anticipation of the coming Grinchesque change of heart.

Why it's almost as if people in urban areas and people in rural areas have distinctly different needs that need to be addressed, and that it's hard to take a country with more than 300 million people in it and lump all of them into a few groups.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 07:00

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Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

FAUXTON posted:

Eventually we're going to see people trotting around in denim overalls like Nazis in lederhosen because the myth of the noble and ideal rural life is the precursor to demonizing cities and later depopulating metropolitan communities for made-up treasonous sympathies.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 07:50

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