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Confounding Factor posted:Listening to MSNBC right now on the Secretary of Education pick, holy poo poo she is going to be a nightmare. Charter schools are evil, you could have made a mint in that business. One of the nice side-effects of this Trump pick for Secretary of Education is that it will make Democrats hate charter schools of the first time in decades.
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Pretty funny that we went from "Donald Trump is threatening democracy itself by refusing to say he'd accept the results of the election" to "the Russians hacked the scantron machines in Wisconsin that aren't network connected".
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Nov 24, 2016 07:06
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greatn posted:They'd just have to hack the network connected sos computer where they're entering the results.(I don't think this happened, but it is possible) This assumes that no county level officials in three separate states looked at the Secretary of State's report and said, "Hey, that wasn't what I reported."
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Nov 24, 2016 07:12
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Harton posted:The Russians definitely hacked one specific party and flooded the media with embarrassing emails. How this is not alarming to everyone blows my mind. Someone phished Podesta and sold that information on. It's not alarming at all.
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Nov 24, 2016 07:28
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Trabisnikof posted:Podesta was not the only hack and even the IC publicity stated it was Russia. I agree the jump to "they also hacked the voting machines" is a huge leap. But we shouldn't underplay the scale of hacks. Weeks after the DIA swore it was a state level attack it was revealed that no, John Podesta clicked on a phishing email. I'm going to say that accusing the Russians of hacking scantron machines in Wisconsin and Michigan that simply scan paper ballots and aren't network connected is a bit more than a "huge leap".
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Nov 24, 2016 07:40
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Bullfrog posted:Those election machines aren't secure, even if they never connect to the web themselves. So is your theory that there was a conspiracy between hundreds of precinct-level elections officials or that the firmware for machines made by multiple companies across three states was corrupted? I just want to know how deep this goes, man.
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Nov 24, 2016 15:19
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Confounding Factor posted:Not that I disagree at all with you, but what's with the cynicism during this election cycle? This question isn't so much towards you but to a lot of other leftists that didn't vote. That's exactly what the Republicans want, cynicism is a tool of the Right. I don't think making up conspiracy theories is productive, in fact, it's quite cynical, especially from people who are complaining about fake news and were upset that Trump said he might not accept the results of the election. (Also, I voted.)
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Nov 24, 2016 16:33
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Condiv posted:it doesn't have to be precinct-level elections officials, researchers have shown that anyone with the knowhow (including voters) can hack these machines. they're very insecure That's an electronic voting machine, which is used in parts of Pennsylvania and not used at all in Wisconsin or Michigan which both use scantron machines with paper ballots. This would also require a conspiracy of hundreds of voters in multiple states with unobserved access to the machines, just to be clear about what you're alleging here.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:02
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FactsAreUseless posted:The only way society will survive is if we rethink the work=eat equation, and I don't know how to do that. Trade deal with China that gives us all free soylent in exchange for letting them dump as much lead in it as they want.
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Nov 24, 2016 21:40
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spotlessd posted:Ahahaha, http://www.propornot.com/ has BAR listed as a "fake news" site spreading Russian propaganda. It's almost--almost--like liberals are perfectly cool with diversity just as long as it doesn't veer into actual leftism. Yeah, it's a hilarious list. They've got Drudge Report, Naked Capitalism, Info Wars, Counter Punch, the Daily Stormer, and the Ron Paul Institute all lumped in with Pravda and RT. The Post is going to get burned on this one.
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Nov 25, 2016 18:02
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Samurai Sanders posted:I still don't understand how Stein, a private citizen, can request the state do a recount and they would do it. Because she was a candidate for President on the ballot in that state and the state law allows candidates to request a recount, provided they pay a fee to cover the costs.
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Nov 25, 2016 23:30
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jBrereton posted:Roughly how many speeches to her corporate backers would Hillary have to give to earn a year of Trump tower secret service rent? Somewhere between five and ten.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:13
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Main Paineframe posted:judges typically rule that it's none of the federal government's business Only because Congress has chosen not to make it their business. They can pass any law they like regulating election of federal officers, except deciding the location of election of Senators.
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Nov 26, 2016 05:46
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HorseRenoir posted:RIP Fidel This is an obvious Putin fake news psyop.
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Nov 26, 2016 06:44
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I, for one, think it's pretty bad that there's a huge prison and torture camp in Cuba.
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Nov 26, 2016 16:15
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Well, well, well. Look where Trump's "three million illegal votes" claim came from.....
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Nov 27, 2016 22:39
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Article 1 Section 4 of the Constitution makes clear that the Congress can pass any law it wants to regulate federal elections. It could pass a law that requires all ballots for Congressional elections in Kansas to be made of tree bark, if it wanted. The VRA, which Congress passed, repeatedly, was much more reasonable and the court had no right to intervene.
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Nov 28, 2016 00:57
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Bip Roberts posted:Wouldn't that be balanced with the 14th and 19th amendments WRT most jurisprudences? It's true that Congress cannot make a law to restrict the vote to peoples granted it under the 14th and 19th, but that's obviously also not what the VRA did. Also, Congress is not allowed to pick the place where voting for Senators occurs, a legacy of when they were chosen by state legislatures that's technically still operative.
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Nov 28, 2016 01:01
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Stealing policy ideas from Hillary again, I see. Clever outreach strategy to bring Americans together.
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Nov 29, 2016 13:59
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Rygar201 posted:Yeah this garbage take is really popular on too cool for you left twitter today The take where Senator Clinton introduced a bill that punished flag burning with up to two years in prison?
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Nov 29, 2016 14:29
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Rygar201 posted:That a proposed bill from 05 is comparable to the President Elect saying we should strip citizenship from flag burners. It's just stupid. He also said a year in jail.
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Nov 29, 2016 14:49
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blue squares posted:look, America had just been ATTACKED, it was a different time Specifically, 2005.
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Nov 29, 2016 16:34
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FlamingLiberal posted:Steven Mnuchin is the new Treasury Secretary nominee. He's a Goldman Sachs guy who also worked with hedge funds and has never held a government job. He also funded Entourage and Suicide Squad, so we're talking about a real monster here.
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Nov 30, 2016 01:12
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We're going to need more bards and clerics to run if we're relying on high CHA.
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JeffersonClay posted:The point isn't that he lost, the point is that he lost by more than Hillary despite being generally viewed as more progressive. Similarly, blue dogs like Joe Manchin outperformed hillary by a significant margin. These data points do not suggest the answer for Democrats is as simple as "be more progressive". https://twitter.com/carl_diggler/status/804086439151542272
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