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Ratoslov posted:As noted above, 52% of Trump voters were women or POC, so I would not be so sure about that. Apparently, ftfy
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 08:28 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 17:22 |
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I wonder if Time's Man of the Year will be the Angry White Male.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:07 |
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A Winner is Jew posted:
It'll be Obama's fault, just like the early 2000s downturn was Clinton's fault and how the 2008 recession was Obama's fault too.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:10 |
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Crowsbeak posted:If it happens say two months before 2018, or after it will be blamed on the GOP. Its not so much about facts its perception, if they're in the drivers seat they will get blamed. Oh, I see you haven't heard of the "8-year-delay" theory of economics, which basically states that economic cycles are determined by political choices made 8 years ago. If that choice of time seems odd given the maximum duration of a presidential term, consider that I first heard the term used to justify President Clinton's economic successes as actually due to Reagan, and similarly, blaming the early 2000s economic downturn on Clinton. The theory will absolutely make a comeback if a downturn happens under Trump.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:19 |
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Schizotek posted:Berniebros tank election, smugly gloat about how its everybody but their fault. Glad ya'll could crucify my future as part of your tantrum. The best part about this is that Hillary is still going to lose that EV from a faithless elector in Washington. Just in case you forgot. Did I say best, because I meant worst. Ugh.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:49 |
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P.S. I think it's time we adopt something from the UK Megathread:
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 09:55 |
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The stock market is fine. Up a little even. I guess the markets are okay with Trump after all. democrats hoping Wall Street won't go all in for Trump in 2020
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 15:56 |
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Deadulus posted:Since Republicans have been running on Repeal Obamacare for the last 6 years. They pretty much have to do it now, right? Their supporters would go nuts if they get the whole federal govt and they leave it. They have the votes. They have a plan. It's going to happen. Mark my words: next year is the last under your ACA plan. Starting in 2018 every single insurance plan will be from South Dakota. Enjoy!
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 16:03 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Trump lost the popular vote and he'll have two percent less supporters next time. I'd say that this will be the kick in the pants the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact needs to get to the magic 270 figure but I don't think there are enough Democratic state houses left to make it happen.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 16:13 |
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sean10mm posted:Fewer Republicans voted for Trump than Romney. It's like 59.1 vs 60.9m. The best part about this is that Democrats are almost certainly going to learn the wrong lesson "that superior GOTV doesn't matter" (The actual lesson is that GOTV only matters if you're Dem, and Republicans don't need it)
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 16:23 |
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spacetoaster posted:What about the non-white people who voted for Trump? Reminder that Trump really did do better with "the Hispanics" and "the blacks" (than Romney)
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 16:27 |
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Lightning Knight posted:You're such a prick. You're excused. Just be nicer to the people who bring them up next time!
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 16:53 |
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Lightning Knight posted:Yeah the one good thing about this election is now I know donating and volunteering are total wastes. Yay for saving time and money. The best part about this "lesson" is that it's wrong (improved motivation and GOTV of minorities would have helped), but Democrats are still going to learn it and lose even more elections in the future as a result.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 18:49 |
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In honor of today's anniversary, let me be the first to say: It begins.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 21:59 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:maybe we'll get to hang out more in the future now that our countries will carve up the Pacific and SE Asia between us as cordial imperial powers deserve. That's the real takeaway here that I don't think people have realized. The election of Trump and the consequent promotion of his xenophobic, isolationist, anti-globalist policies in the world's only hyperpower pretty much cements the final destruction of the post-Cold-War order. Since the fall of the communist bloc, the general thesis has still been a variant of the original post-war order: some regional power politicking, but at least some shared faith and legitimacy in some form of global governance through the United Nations, ICC, COP, and other international coalitions/organizations, to the point that even in his worst days, Dubya had to make a case to the UNSC to invade Iraq. And while that order has frayed a bit, over the past decade, starting with Dubya's abandoning the UNSC to invade Iraq anyway, and the more recent abandonment of multilateral talks/international governing bodies as we've seen in Syria, Brexit, and in the South China Sea, it has still held. For example, the Iranian nuclear deal, Cuban rapprochement and Paris agreements (rip) still fundamentally built on top of a framework of international coalition building and multilateral action. That principle of international cooperation that has formed the backbone of the world order since the Atlantic Charter is now completely dead. Take Trump's words from his victory speech to heart: quote:I want to tell the world community that while we will always put America’s interests first, we will always deal fairly with everyone – all people and all other nations. Outright stating that America will openly take a "gently caress you got mine" approach to foreign affairs means that America can no longer be trusted to uphold the international system. If an international agreement is not to America's advantage, consider it gone. Trump has consistently campaigned on this point, so I fully expect it to bear out in practice. The world is looking down the barrel at a rebirth of regional factionalism, multi polarity, and the final breakdown of international cooperation, not unlike the conditions at the end of the 19th century. With other future events looking to move in the same direction (Merkel's weakening grip on the German polity, France probably electing Marine Le Pen, and of course regional powers China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Russia willingly playing the same game they always have) the world is about to become a very ugly, very dangerous place. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 9, 2016 |
# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 22:51 |
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Ornamented Death posted:Lindsay Graham, for example, has already stated that he'll work with Trump, but that mass deportations are a non-starter for him. He better, as he's already on Trump's enemies list. I'm not joking.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 23:43 |
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Hollismason posted:Well his statements regarding libel are indicative that he'll pull a sedition act out of his hat. If he does, I bet his deplorables will be all on it because "it's a sure fire way to stop all this needless divisiveness! even if you don't respect the man, you should respect the office (which means respecting the man)!"
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2016 23:46 |
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SoggyBobcat posted:Why not? Turnabout is fair play. Republicans weren't electorally punished for it, why would Democrats? Democrats are loving poo poo at messaging and their voters don't turn out for midterms, unlike Republicans, who are both and will be energized as gently caress to punish the Democrats for preventing the Republicans from MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 03:34 |
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Skanker posted:Eh, we saw an increase in hate crimes after Brexit. There's no reason to think lovely people won't feel emboldened now after this win. Happy reading!
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 06:41 |
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Oracle posted:Everytime I've seen this exchange on my facebook, said conservative parents counter with pictures of angry college kids in California torching poo poo and flipping the bird at cops or the video of the white guy who was beat up in Chicago during a traffic altercation during which some black folks accused him of being a Trump voter, or just outright call bullshit and that it didn't happen and were all 'false flag' or 'oh no someone wrote Trump on a door, I need my safe space' (they really need to change the first picture in that link for the tl;dr crowd, its way too easy to dismiss) Also, by the way, one of the neo-nazi attack claims was false, therefore all of them are false. So enjoy that argument, by the way.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 06:55 |
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Just a reminder that, thanks to grabbing both houses of the Minnesota, Iowa, and Kentucky state legislatures (and losing Nevada) Republicans are now just one state legislature shy of calling an Article V convention: https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/797480012446388225
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2016 20:02 |
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boner confessor posted:my fear at this point is that the coalition takes raqqa in mid-spring and yokels across america finally take notice and credit trump for his foreign policy brilliance It's basically a guarantee, to be honest. Whoever is in office gets the credit.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2016 09:22 |
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Have we talked about how Socialist Alternative darling Kshama Sawant is now receiving tons of racist and sexist hate mail for daring to protest Trump's inauguration? But you see, both sides are just as bad because she hates Trump!
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2016 23:15 |
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Bip Roberts posted:Is that dude from washington state still gonna vote for Trump because he's gonna be rewarded with a pipeline personally routed through his back yard. He and his friend are still not voting for Hillary, no. But at least they are trying to convince Trump electors to vote for someone else, to throw it into the House! (Because they are idiots who don't know how the House votes)
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 08:19 |
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Hollismason posted:There's no way Russia is not totally loving us over on the Polar bear limit. Our Nation could have afforded, and can afford now, the steps necessary to close the polar bear gap.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 08:23 |
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Fidel Castronaut posted:I have considered that this is quickly becoming a tired catchphrase in a world where some Muslim women are going without their hijab out of fear of being assaulted. Remember that after January 20, we will be one terror attack from white nationalists being able to claim emergency powers. Reichstag 2.0 is unquestionably a possibility in the next 4 years if they really want it to be. So yeah, it is critical to act if you can.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 09:07 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:re: that GMA tweet MILLERS!
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 03:52 |
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Grouchio posted:US Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has resigned. If I failed to discover that the Russians had directly caused the election our new president until after the election and knew that one of my successors was a literal Russian plant, I'd resign too.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2016 16:14 |
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Mustached Demon posted:Sessions is bound to have a few skeletons in his Yes. He was rejected from a federal judiciary seat in the 1980s because he is a blatant white supremacist. if you think that matters any more in 2016 though.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2016 16:51 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:Trump swore up and down that he was against pointless Middle Eastern wars and Clinton was a warmonger. People still haven't learned that Trump imputes his flaws to everyone, anyone else.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2016 18:09 |
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:How many leaks and whistleblowers will we be seeing in the next 4-8 years? I imagine a lot of people in the military (and the gov't at large) will be very upset seeing their lives' work being poo poo on. Hopefully. The number will not matter because people will ignore the leaks and treat them as traitors and liars. Just like they did with every other leaker and whistleblower, ever.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2016 21:14 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I didn't know Christianity was all about being spiteful and loving over other people so you can have more money. The more you learn! Let me tell you about a little something called the Prosperity Gospel...
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2016 23:44 |
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Business Gorillas posted:Hey guys in case you were getting comfortable: What transition of power?
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2016 18:04 |
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Fojar38 posted:Oh...no? Or you could read the article and understand that Hollismason is deliberately underselling it: quote:A former U.S. attorney for Alabama, the selection has been celebrated on the right and strongly criticized on the left because of Senator Sessions' record on issues such as immigration and race. Early in his career, alleged anti-black comments cost him a federal judgeship. More recently, he's taken a very hard line against proposed immigration reform. quote:The thing is there's something different about Sessions. So when Donald Trump made his infamous comment about how he likes to grab women in their private parts, Sessions said he didn't think that that was a crime. So either the man who would be the nation's chief law enforcement officer doesn't know what sexual assault is or, more likely, he's just an extreme partisan. quote:When we look at what he did when he was a U.S. attorney in Alabama, the chief federal law enforcement officer there, he brought criminal charges against people who were trying to register, African-American voters, in Alabama.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2016 06:52 |
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mcmagic posted:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/cashing-in-bigly-in-argentina Only if you're a Democrat.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2016 18:32 |
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Venuz Patrol posted:*trump voter voice* hillary's foundation received money from saudi arabia once. *trump voter voice* yeah but talking points memo is biased. i haven't seen it in the real media.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2016 20:19 |
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Grouchio posted:Can someone read that? Among other things, there's an implication DHS will get involved in voter suppression efforts.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 01:04 |
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More Democrats want the party to obstruct Trump than Republicans wanted to obstruct Obama on day 1.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 01:22 |
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:A civilian corps to fix our infrastructure, do humanitarian work here and abroad. Offer free college and healthcare to the folks who enlist in this new corps. More socialism for the average american. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but DEBT...
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 01:58 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 17:22 |
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iospace posted:They're still dying. The brand is toxic. The people who voted for him can't afford to stay there, and the people who have the money to are staying away. They won't stay away for long when they realize that staying in a Trump hotel is the best way to get Trump's ear. Diplomats are already doing it.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 07:02 |