Mirificus posted:

The Titanic posted:

As a female who enjoys to play games, if you did this for me for Valentine's Day (or really any holiday), I'd not be happy at all. Like very much not happy. Even if it was a game I really liked or wanted.

I'm just putting that out there. Obviously do whatever makes you and your significant other happy.

Mirificus posted:

Sandweed posted:

Oh wow, this is great reading. The work of a sane mind.

https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/2017/01/27/the-refund-before-too-late-parody/

Protip for any citizens reading this thread, calling Derek a "master troll" is first of all not really an insult and also giving him way to much credit.

AH poo poo CATTE TAX

Xaerael posted:

What was the image?

Klyith posted:

A good and funny thing has been drowned out by a bad and unfunny thing.

Klyith posted:

I would encourage you, when you're about to hammer on the screenshot button, to ask yourself "Is this shitizen's post really crazy in an interesting or humorous way? Or is it just the best example I've seen today and I need to post something to keep the thread going?" If it's the latter, don't. The thread will still be here a week from now, the next time you find something good.

I'm not trying to make that a reason to mock or not, but there are people with a crusader mentality here that think "we need to show the shitizens they're wrong" and it's not gonna happen

Mirificus posted:

D_Smart posted:

So that happened.

CIG - prove your claim of "open development"

Daztek posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5x7jm4/after_this_atv_none_of_you_get_to_say_cig_shows/deg988w/

Mirificus posted:

Mirificus posted:

peter gabriel posted:

I love it when a scam comes together

Samizdata posted:

You would like all that jazz.

Lazrin posted:

witness the depth of the desperation of a stunted goon for whom star citizen just *can't* work out... his life is validated only upon it's failure.

pathetic

you've seen the gdc page, right?

https://aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/gdc2017/


you've seen the oversized area star citizen had at the lumberyard booth at gdc, right?

Lazrin posted:

cig has and is substantially demonstrating continual progress on the project. no lawyer let alone prosecutor in their right mind would even lift a finger to pursue a case against them.

it's also very easily demonstrable the economics and logistics of similar projects - plenty of precedent. the budget and timeline are well within any regular industry tolerances

i.e. nothing to see here from a legal perspective (except maybe the hello kitty thing o.o)

so don't speak of things which you don't understand. i.e. the law.

Lladre posted:

I meant what reward did people get in the Shroud of Avatar game for being donators from Star Citizen. They had a co give money thing going.

The Titanic posted:

AVATAR!

Know that Britannia is in need of your support!

Only you can donate to save the virtues, Avatar. The more you donate, the more virtues you can have.

Valor: $100
Spirituality: $200
Humility: $500
Honesty: n/a
Justice: 2 weeks

Sandweed posted:

Who is the guy who has a list of every Derek Smart alt on his blog and it's just a list of Disqus user who have made fun of SC.

mr-hasgaha posted:

I wrote the second half of it almost a year ago and keep copying and pasting it... tweaking it as I go. It's a nice canned response.

his nibs posted:

yeah, and two pages worth of tax

thatguy posted:

What is gish gallop and why do they keep saying it?

quote:

The Gish Gallop (also known as proof by verbosity[1]) is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it.
Although it takes a trivial amount of effort on the Galloper's part to make each individual point before skipping on to the next (especially if they cite from a pre-concocted list of Gallop arguments), a refutation of the same Gallop may likely take much longer and require significantly more effort (per the basic principle that it's always easier to make a mess than to clean it back up again).
The tedium inherent in untangling a Gish Gallop typically allows for very little "creative license" or vivid rhetoric (in deliberate contrast to the exciting point-dashing central to the Galloping), which in turn risks boring the audience or readers, further loosening the refuter's grip on the crowd.
This is especially true in that the Galloper need only win a single one out of all his component arguments in order to be able to cast doubt on the entire refutation attempt. For this reason, the refuter must achieve a 100% success ratio (with all the yawn-inducing elaboration that goes with such precision). Thus, Gish Galloping is frequently employed (with particularly devastating results) in timed debates. The same is true for any time- or character-limited debate medium, including Twitter and newspaper editorials.
Examples of Gish Gallops are commonly found online, in crank "list" articles that claim to show "X hundred reasons for (or against) Y". At the highest levels of verbosity, with dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of minor arguments interlocking, each individual "reason" is — upon closer inspection — likely to consist of a few sentences at best.
Gish Gallops are almost always performed with numerous other logical fallacies baked in. The myriad component arguments constituting the Gallop may typically intersperse a few perfectly uncontroversial claims — the basic validity of which are intended to lend undue credence to the Gallop at large — with a devious hodgepodge of half-truths, outright lies, red herrings and straw men — which, if not rebutted as the fallacies they are, pile up into egregious problems for the refuter.
There may also be escape hatches or "gotcha" arguments present in the Gallop, which are — like the Gish Gallop itself — specifically designed to be brief to pose, yet take a long time to unravel and refute.
However, Gish Gallops aren't impossible to defeat — just tricky (not to say near-impossible for the unprepared). Upon closer inspection, many of the allegedly stand-alone component arguments may turn out to be nothing but thinly-veiled repetitions or simple rephrasings of the same basic points — which only makes the list taller, not more correct (hence; "proof by verbosity"). This essential flaw in the Gallop means that a skilled rebuttal of one component argument may in fact be a rebuttal to many.