Tetrabor posted:

That's what a normal person would expect, buy why would they go a step further and ban their one source of exploitive slave work from ever being able to come into the country?

*Looks at thread title.*

Oh....

Epic High Five posted:

we're probably just a few months away from NPR officially switching over to being 80% uncritical interviews with economically anxious white rural or exurban voters about why they still support Trump

these people live in a fantasy world where politics is just team sports and maintenance of the narrative is all that matters. the rust belt must be overwhelmingly white for rhetorical convenience, and thus the coverage ignores all non-white people

Tip Shades posted:

Logan's Run remake where everyone over thirty knows the truth but wants to die anyway, and one man is forced to live because they need someone to do all the killing.

1redflag posted:

even worse, imagine Kurt Cobain, Janis joplin, and Jimi Hendrix all hocking cadillacs and women’s underwear. *gives Bob Dylan the stinkeye*

AkumaHokoru posted:

we call them coons in the community. there are usually 2 reasons someone coons like this. fear or ignorance. some people get republicanthink in their head and believe if they try to be one of the good ones they wont encounter racism. some are so scared of encountering racism they try to play like they are above it but in reality are trying to avoid it.

EverettLO posted:

My Trump voting father died of a brain cancer about a month ago. Thinking about his life, it occurs to me that he led the archetypal life of a boomer.

He was born into a family supported by a union electrician who later went on to become a union president. The decent wages and conditions allowed my grandfather to live in a nice house and send my father to college for engineering, the first in our family. My father's relationship with his own father became more strained as he headed into management later in life and as the Republican party stopped pretending to play nice with union workers.

My father appears to have always been right wing, but began to transform into a boomer chud in the age of Reagan. He never seems to have bought fully into the more esoteric Republican beliefs on voodoo economics or cutting all regulations. He was mostly a single issue voter, and that single issue was guns. Culture war issues were a useful cudgel to aggravate the libs but held no real animus for him.

During the early 1990s the company he spend 20 years working for was bought out by another company and he was laid off as redundant. It was the obvious conclusion to everything Reagan's economy embodied. He was able to find another job in local government that he held until a few years before he died. The working conditions were better and the benefits were light years ahead. None of this had any effect on his shallowly considered belief that governments needed to be cut down and that the free market could handle it better.

I watched him transform further during the 1990s as a result of the Contract with America and the explosion Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. No longer would he consider political views outside of the pre-scripted talking points. For someone going through their own teenage political formation, it made earnest conversation all but impossible.

The Bush years were banner years, sort of. All of the ideals he should have loved were politically ascendant but he never seemed satisfied with it. He was not terribly pleased with the invasion of Iraq even if he was fine with Afghanistan. In the 2008 primary he bafflingly chose to vote for Fred Thompson. The election of Obama broke his political will and from then on he just seemed sullen and bitter on the subject of politics. He never seemed to like Trump and thought he was an idiot. He voted for him, though. Anything to see Clinton eat poo poo on a national stage.

In some ways it was not as dire as it sounds. All the Limbaugh in the world couldn't break his love for his family and he supported my brother and me through mistakes that flew against the conservative mindset. He also loved babies and had a great relationship with his grandchildren.

I will miss him despite the fact that our conversations needed to be carefully cultivated to avoid politics. I think this is true of many boomers and their children.

Mr Interweb posted:

i think y'all are a being a bit too harsh here

i mean, yeah that poster's dad WAS objectively awful, but we could show the guy a bit of tact

Mr Interweb posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1157004825491623937

FMguru posted:

Not quite "Trump voters realizing", but a fun result of running policies that chase all the young people and immigrants out of your lovely rural state:

https://twitter.com/chryllaird/status/1162541272302796800

ElGroucho posted:

You'll have to excuse me if there are no tears streaking down my brown face for the white american farmer or west virginia coal miners, who I'm sure are very pro-immigrant

Avirosb posted:

Did this become the new "LOL at democrats" thread over night or something?

https://twitter.com/WordswithSteph/status/1170911679128985601

Doubt they'll live to realize much of anything.

quote:

“Democrats are becoming way too extreme,” Shaun Majors, a 42-year-old high school graduate who has worked at the nearby Beaver Valley Power Station for almost his entire adult life, said before last week’s event began. “I voted for Trump last time, and I would again.”

...

Daniel Keener, a 72-year-old Democrat who retired after more than two decades at the nearby power plant, said his party has moved “way too far left.”

“Every one of them wants to take my gun,” said Keener, motioning to the handgun clipped to his left pocket. He said he’s committed to Trump in 2020, but he’ll likely maintain his Democratic registration because he’s “a union man” and his family has a long history with the party.

...

At the union protest just down the street, 60-year-old power plant electrician Terrence Ankrom, a registered Democrat, isn’t so optimistic about the future of his party.

He shared his concerns with two friends while waiting for the rally to begin. All three voted for Trump.

They laughed when asked whether they had Twitter accounts. One pointed to his flip phone.

jesus WEP posted:

reading those vape tweets gave me the happy cool rush that i imagine nicotine coincidentally feels like

Huragok posted:

its really funny because I was watching this with my wife and she looked visibly disturbed because she voted for trump too and I loving laughed in her face


caveat: I’m a foreigner lmao

FMguru posted:

"I'm sure when white people talk about cracking down on and banning and deporting all muslims, they'll make a careful distinction and exception for minority sub groups like us." - something those dumb fuckers actually believed.

How can you live as an ethnic minority in the US for more than five minutes without understanding that to white people "muslim" means "anyone vaguely middle eastern looking or sounding"?

Eat This Glob posted:

maine has a lot (relatively) of Somali and Iraqi refugees.

https://www.mainepublic.org/post/how-refugees-get-settled-maine

Sure is a dearth of US-born POC though. LePage accused black and brown people of coming to maine to deflower the proud yankee stock

Ghost Leviathan posted:

the cruelty is the point

Axeface posted:

this argument is a year old but i just lurk through threads whenever and i wanted to get a spotcheck on how this argument worked out re: not killing everybody

Epic High Five posted:

Ya it's not a coincidence that every single rural voter that gets media attention is either a local Republican party official or affluent retiree hanging out at a diner at 2pm on a Tuesday. Actual working class people would say stuff like "ever since Berkshire Hathaway bought my trailer park services have been cut and rents increased 50%" and that's intolerable to The Narrative

There was a deep dive into the life and material conditions of Dylan Roof awhile back by the Atlantic I think that is really good for horrifying libs. Just ask them to read it and say "more Americans have to live like that than don't"

InsertPotPun posted:

But "i will improve your life" never works on these people. obama took a personal interest in one town, promised them aide, repeatedly visited, got them that aide, in fact his programs he personally went, delivered, and explained to them revitalized the town so much they were going to homeless shelters to fill job positions.
Keep in mind that before obama, personally, came to town to help them they were dying in huge numbers from meth, there were no businesses left, the entire town was dying.

they voted for trump 64%

now the town is dying again. very very specifically even the town mayor points directly to trump's tariffs...while sitting at the desk with a framed picture of him and trump smiling as he explains that trump is going to do right by them finally.

they don't care.

elkhart indiana, like much of americans, will vote for whatever rear end in a top hat comes in and praises them last. and trump excels at heaping praises on people while they're in his sight line.

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i'm trying to find the report right after the election of a black woman in the deep south. the white woman she worked for straight up told her she might as well come live on her property now bc soon she'd own her as a slave

Cup Runneth Over posted:

The Lone Badger posted:

Spray these gatherings with that indelible ink they use to mark who's voted in some countries. Anyone with dyed skin is clearly marked for other people to stay the gently caress away from, and will be given last priority on medical resources.

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

germophobia sure didn’t stop him from loving bareback on multiple occasions 🤔