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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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breaklaw posted:

"Democrats took Trump literally but not seriously. Republicans took Trump seriously but not literally."

-Whoever said that

Peter Thiel

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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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That DICK! posted:

Post Trump Voters: just #draintheswamp don't kill me

if only they had realized that they were the swamp

Hodgepodge
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:

My dude I highly doubt growing up in he 90s will be anything like growing up today. These kids are using iPhones practically in the cradle, like, not even hand-me-down Razr flip phones.

But it's nice that you're hopeful.

My son loves his tablet, but also wants to be a dinosaur like the ones he watches on YouTube.

Some things never change :shrug:

Hodgepodge
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TheDon01 posted:

The Jains seem p.cool

Making non-violence 100% explicitly the purpose of your religion seems to be the threshold for the message to reliably sink in.

Hodgepodge
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fits my needs posted:

Your friend sounds really dumb lol. It's funny how many internalize that they're "one of the good ones." It's like that article about some Trumper poo poo hole Midwest town having heir local Mexican restaurant owner/community volunteer deported and being upset about it.

"I'm the exception" is the cry of every Trump voter as they attempt to externalize their self-loathing.

Hodgepodge
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Mr. Belding posted:

Boomers are unquestionably the worst generation of people the United States had ever produced and likely in the top 5 for the world. They are stupid, they are uncaring. They are self-centered and narcissistic, and they project all of their horrible qualities onto millennials.

They have had the most given to them, yet are the stingiest with it. They hate seeing their neighbors succeed. The world will be so much better without them that it is nearly criminal that they have not been overthrown and executed and history would look more kindly on Gen X'ers and millennials were they to do so.

It wouldn't be so bad if there weren't so drat many of them that their voting power outweighs every other voting block.

I do try to point out to them that they're going to be hated by every generation to come in a way what will make the Nazis look like sainted martyrs. A generation of spoiled, petty children.

Hodgepodge
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Mr. Belding posted:

They don't give a gently caress. They never imagined a world after themselves and are doing their damndest to make sure that there isn't one.

part of the fun is reminding them that they must one day die

Hodgepodge
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Elder Postsman posted:

most definitions of millennial start it at around 80-82, so the oldest of them would be mid-30s.

I was born in '82, and it's been weird being right on the edge of most of what defines being a millenial culturally.

Hodgepodge
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every day, i thank god i wasn't born in a terrible third world country like america

up here we even had some good boomers. they couldn't fight the tide, but they held it back from flooding us with total poo poo



rip you died too soon

Hodgepodge
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Crocoswine posted:

Sure, but I've heard far too many people, in my actual day to day life, talk about how they didn't vote/voted third party/wrote in a "real liberal", so I don't think that 8% is entirely because of disenfranchisement. Lotta apathy and a lot of idealistic dumbasses, sadly.

Lest we forget the many, many posters on our beloved forums who constantly shittalked Hillary and still treat Trump's win as a victory.

Hodgepodge
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Slamhound posted:

If progress were generational, we couldn't conceive, much less have, this conversation.

iirc, there's some good evidence that generational shifts play a big role in shifts in opinion on various subjects (medicine, etc)

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Actually disliking Bernie is probably a good quick sign of sociopathy.

Hodgepodge
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Thinking about it, the whole idea that "racism is over" is just another case of the worst boomers assuming that their parents took care of everything for them and that they don't have to think about it.

Or at least I'm making a mental note to put it that way at some point in the future.

Epic High Five posted:

Like for real tho, post-millenials are coming up looking even more lovely than Boomers so we need to lock in some communism and make it permanent before they become a bloc, or maybe just overwhelm them entirely like the Boomers did with GenX

Maybe the coming economic holocaust will soften them a bit but I don't trust people to learn anymore

The 4chan generation.

Hodgepodge
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HorseRenoir posted:

the left doesn't have a hidden supermajority but they don't turn out at the rates that conservatives do. increasing dem turnout in elections would flip a lot of seats really fast

lacking: evidence that there is a set of "leftist policies" which will produce this turnout.

as much as it was a failure of her campaign to actually talk about them as well, actual lefties didn't seem to give a crap that Clinton's policies were in fact in line with what the left claims to want in many respects

i honestly think that a large portion of the "left" just likes affirmation of the idea that they are better than the right, and the awfulness of the right, democratic polticians, and human suffering all facilitate this and are therefore nothing but the desired result

this is certainly the conclusion one reaches if one applies the analysis of right-wing policy prevent here to the behaviour of the left as well

Hodgepodge
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Crocoswine posted:

just gotta wait for the healthcare change to kill all the olds

historical inevitability is just a reskin of the rapture

your faith will not save you

Hodgepodge
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Crocoswine posted:

I mean, at this point I'm just vindictive and want to seem them die regardless of the outcome

rapture theology is all about vindication, yes

Hodgepodge
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KaptainKrunk posted:

The entire party has to be restructured from the ground up and turned into something even halfway resembling a real party.

yes

god will not save us, nor has he damned us

i honestly do think that the present situation is both a failure of the democratic party and of its constituents, however. lots of people right here are happier with trump than they would ever be with hillary and made this perfectly clear for all to see.

Hodgepodge
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Business Gorillas posted:

Can't imagine why the left didn't trip over themselves to vote for a candidate chasing suburban republican moderates. Turns out surrogates and supporters repeatedly saying "we don't need you" makes people not want to vote for your candidate :eyepop:

a revealing critique of her policy to be sure

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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i know it's a chore, but if you read the conversation from the start then you have a clue what its about and don't have to ask me to repeat myself

Hodgepodge
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

lol, more dipshits

It works for 56-year-old Linda Preast, who signed up for the program two years ago after a stroke left her in a wheelchair. Meals on Wheels delivers to her every weekday. Like most residents in Jones County, she voted for Donald Trump.

“Are you surprised?” Miller asked.

“Yeah,” Preast said. “Because he was told- I was under the influence that he was going to help us.”

"under the influence" might be the best turn of phrase any Trump supporter has used to describe their vote

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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got any sevens posted:

Does Krang have an origin

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Somehow, this is Hillary's fault

Hodgepodge
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Relevant Tangent posted:

Trump, finally making that old saw about the scariest words in the English language true.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help you die!

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Hodgepodge
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Agean90 posted:

hahaha if i was a republican in NC id immediatly start demonizing trump for this to try and primary some fuckers to start my own career holy lolly

it's like surfing though, you gotta catch that wave at the right moment. try to start too soon and you just end up dead in the water

Hodgepodge
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uber_stoat posted:

they can't even admit that they hosed up. loyal as dogs. gonna be grim as hell when the checks stop coming and these rural whitey towns all simultaneously drop dead. they'll just pile all the dead Trumpies into a ditch and set them on fire. too many to bury.

First they will get very angry.

That's the place accelerationism was accelerating to. Pity the Democrats will gently caress it up.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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They'll never say it's for white people only. They'll just run on welfare and minority death.

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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

off topic, but it's fascinating to me that (in US politics) "liberal" has gone from mostly used by conservatives to mean too far left, to a perjorative used on the left to mean (near as I can tell) what used to be called neoliberal or limousine liberal? what's the current political hierarchy for these terms:

leftist, liberal, neoliberal, centrist, third way, progressive, blue dog, marxist, socialist, communist

It's partly a product of criticism of the classical liberal position, as opposed to communism/socialism on the left or protectionist conservatism on the right. Economically, there was a time when conservatism was associated with a position to the left of liberals, whose ideology was pro-capital and free trade and against economic nationalism. Classical liberalism hasn't really changed much, it was just conflated with socialism by both sides.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Even though the concern about fascism is real and valid, it does miss that economic nationalism which calls for protectionist trade policies, social safety nets, and exclusion of immigrants is just as real and as much a part of what we're seeing re-emerge with Trump.

Misidentifying this aspect of the current trend as unalloyed fascism risks normalizing fascism the way the right has normalized socialism, and also discards the huge array of leftist rhetoric which was developed in past struggles between socialism and economic nationalism to expose the way anti-immigration sentiment is used to divide workers and turn us against our own self-interest.

Hodgepodge
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I dunno, at this point the argument is kinda a creepy essentialist view which rejects the idea that working class white people can be non-racist. Like pragmatically the majority are at present, but this poo poo is just naked class hatred and as much a rejection of the working-class movement of the past as the poo poo spewed by Republicans.

Hodgepodge
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:

keep pretendin' the middle class did not vote trump too

so does the economic anxiety meme that my party created, and successfully spread, apply to them too?

*sips bourbon*

i kinda feel like most of the suburban middle class could die and the world would be better, but then i remember my friend who moved to texas to marry and having to patiently explain to his high-school aged kids that even if all of isis teleported inside the border of a small texas town they would be outnumbered and outgunned by the immediate residents back when local news there was flogging "isis is going to ally with cartels and sneak across the border"

like local news there is really poo poo, these kids are mostly alright and grew up in a left-wing household

Hodgepodge
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Best Korea posted:

I was at a family reunion this weekend and my non-voting and Trump voting relatives both wish they could have voted for Sanders, so yes you can win rural whites with UHC, a higher minimum wage, and free college for their children (so they're not doomed to the mines). Apparently they thought they were getting this with Trump, and felt Clinton talked down to them. The non-voting one said she wouldn't vote for Clinton after she said "she was going to close the mines." They like the idea of closing the mines IF there's work lined up for the miners.
Granted, if Sanders had run, his idea of re-training miners would have probably been spun as shutting down the mines too, since they get their news from tv and the local grapevine (they don't do internet). Also, these were Democrats until 2008 because they couldn't handle the idea of a black guy being in charge. This is common in the area.

my general impression is that there was some degree of interplay between racism and feeling betrayed by obama letting off the bankers with huge bonuses instead of actual punishment in the financial crisis, plus the ACA being a lukewarm mess

normally i'd say "what came first, the chicken or the egg," but what came first was of course right-wing spin; but the dems still don't understand that they make spinning their poo poo easy as hell and they certainly didn't in 2008

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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TheSaurus

TheSaurus

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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you'd think someone with the nickname thesaurus would be able to steer clear of slurs

or maybe that was the gimmick?

Hodgepodge
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i'm glad he's able to worry about something more immediate than hard ai or the sun expanding a billion years from now

too bad he still doesn't care if proles die

Hodgepodge
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ScrubLeague posted:

what job did he have that he was so bad at that a mexican with no papers could take it from him

he's very confused; he was once in love with Jeb but a Mexican stole him away

Hodgepodge
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Burt Sexual posted:

"The population was 727 at the 2010 census." Jeez people, just move.

Yeesh, that's less than a third of the population of the island I moved off of when I was a kid because the school didn't go past grade 8.

Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 05:09 on Jul 11, 2017

Hodgepodge
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curufinor posted:

i don't know why cannibalism is so associated with murder
i mean, if you cut a little bit off of someone's belly or do lipo, you'd be able to eat that, forex, no harm no foul, just gotta cook it

this escalated quickly :munch:

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Eela6 posted:

I feel like I'm having a stroke.

What?

welcome to c-spam! :grin:

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Kind of a meta post here, but:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-05-anger-health-older-adults-sadness.html

Right-wing media: the most protracted form of suicide cult.

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Hodgepodge
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Edibles are good.

Source: my roommates grow weed and make edibles.

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