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Darth Walrus posted:Answer the question. What question do you think you're answering?
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I sense somebody is going to attempt to join me.
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Feb 27, 2017 13:56
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Jose posted:its a shame they all are as well. what a miserable state the PLP is in Do you think Labour would be better off without MPs?
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Feb 27, 2017 14:38
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Regarde Aduck posted:Answer this question Pissflaps. Sure. I don't want to pick the winning side without regard for policy. I want a Labour government protecting and growing our public services, not a Tory government destroying them. (...you realise Darth Walrus didn't direct that question at me, right?)
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Feb 27, 2017 14:47
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Jose posted:No i think labour would be better off with good, capable MP's In what way do you find labour MPs bad and incapable?
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Feb 27, 2017 14:49
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Jose posted:the main one being their inability to run a candidate capable of beating some no hoper like corbyn Anything that doesn't centre on the Labour Party leadership?
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Feb 27, 2017 14:53
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Lord of the Llamas posted:That he wouldn't campaign on a left wing platform even if it was the only way to win. What's wrong with him saying that? He's a centre left politician.
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Feb 27, 2017 14:56
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Kokoro Wish posted:Two failed general elections? But each mp won their seat?
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Feb 27, 2017 14:59
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I don't understand this.
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Feb 27, 2017 15:34
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mfcrocker posted:The centrists in the party lost both the 2010 and 2015 elections; that doesn't mean they should've suddenly become UKIP to try and win support. Likewise, the Corbynite Labour party shouldn't become centrists despite being obliterated in the polls right now. I don't think anybody expects 'Corbynite labour' to become centrists, just to recognise that they're an existential threat to the Labour Party as a parliamentary force.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:07
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mfcrocker posted:Bollocks, the major existential threat is the massive swing to the right of pretty much all political discourse in the Western world. A centrist candidate would be absolutely hosed. Why would a party closer to the right be more hosed than one further removed from it?
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Feb 27, 2017 16:17
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Regarde Aduck posted:Then why should anyone on the same position on the political spectrum as Corbyn bother? In fact why should anyone left of centre bother with British politics at all? You seem to think a working party exists to do either of two things: 1) Become centrist 2) Just do whatever's popular right now gently caress everything?? I believe there already exists political parties that are further left than Labour traditionally is. They're fringe parties that don't perform very well at elections. The problem is that labour is being turned into one of them. quote:Here's a question. If Corbyn went hard right, said throw all the immigrants out, cut taxes, cut welfare, said England was the best country ever and everyone else are big bellends and not good, just basically became a giant not-quite-fascist populist and then won the 2020 GE. Would you say this was an effective Corbyn? Would you like to see the Labour party do this in order to win? This is bizarre. I'm not waiting on some breathless hyperbolic scenario. I want labour to return to being a completely run, left of centre alternative to the Tories. Corbyn is unable to deliver this.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:21
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mfcrocker posted:Centrist Labour would be hosed, Corbynite Labour is hosed. Neither is going to win an election in 2020. I think a centrist labour would be in a better position to capture disillusioned Tory voters. There's no guarantee of victory, but right now labour are guaranteed defeat.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:24
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mfcrocker posted:We pretty solidly disagree on this - disillusioned Tory voters tend to vote Lib Dem. Well, right now they would. That's the problem.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:30
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Guavanaut posted:But I thought Corbyn only got elected leader by people who voted Lib-Dem in 2010? They didn't vote for the lib dems: they voted for Clegg.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:37
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TheRat posted:Those neolib cunts keep singing "things can only get better". If that was actually true, maybe things would get better? Things did get better. A lot better.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:38
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, when someone's been hovering above your bed with cheeks spread going URGGGHGHGHG I'm not sure the prudent response is to say "well they haven't poo poo it yet, let's see where this goes..." Do you say URGGGHGHGHG when you're about to have a poo?
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Feb 27, 2017 16:50
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This is cool.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:55
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Didnt McDonnell commit to that cross Party fiscal policy agreement thing?
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Feb 27, 2017 18:03
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Come back Big Tone. Time to put some stick about.
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Feb 27, 2017 18:42
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Emotions are running high in the Centre Left Megathread.
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Feb 27, 2017 20:32
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namesake posted:Ant and Dec. 'Who?' -Jeremy Corbyn
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Feb 27, 2017 20:45
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Looks like the Corbyn movie is already out ?
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Feb 27, 2017 20:52
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Speaking of Tory former prime minister's, John Major is better at challenging the Tories than Labour https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/836275766715367424
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Feb 27, 2017 21:14
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Pochoclo posted:Always funny to see coddled first-worlders deal with babby's first crisis. You're in for some fun times, oh boy you are. I don't think it's cool of you to boast about how much you're earning thanks to being in this country, then laugh at our misfortune for having made an economically harmful democratic decision. Frankly, it's rude.
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Feb 27, 2017 23:26
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Mister Adequate posted:I thought you were the anime capital? How'd you claim my video game capital title off me? Sounds like he's seized all the means of preventing reproduction.
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Feb 27, 2017 23:27
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Mister Adequate posted:And nothing is as awful, in the eyes of the middle class, as rudeness! I'm working class.
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Feb 27, 2017 23:28
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cargohills posted:important question here lads: does average household income mean total for the whole household or income per person? I feel that the answer is within your question.
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Feb 27, 2017 23:33
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I don't feel jealous of people that earn more than me.
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Feb 28, 2017 00:55
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TomViolence posted:In what way is giving up all your money on an individual basis actually going to tangibly help, though? At best it'll maybe feed a few more people for a week. Depends what you do with the money. Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Give that man a fishing rod? He can catch fish forever. It's what I've always thought anyway.
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Feb 28, 2017 01:08
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His Divine Shadow posted:That's not a con, though. What do you mean?
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Feb 28, 2017 07:44
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Our living ex prime ministers are a lot better than the current one or her potential replacements.
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Feb 28, 2017 12:11
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Paxman posted:Lady Hayter being a shadow minister for exiting the European Union, a Labour official spokesperson on this topic. Hayters gonna Hayt.
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Feb 28, 2017 12:11
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Dead Goon posted:Louise Mensch is Pissplaps? I always admit when I'm wrong.
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Feb 28, 2017 17:11
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mehall posted:Would you care to provide an example of this? Here you go bud Pissflaps posted:Yes you're right sorry I meant renting out a room rather than subletting.
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Feb 28, 2017 18:31
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mehall posted:Thats a clarification, not an admission of being out and out wrong. I used the wrong term. It was pointed out to me, I apologised and corrected myself.
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Also wow did I call Copeland wrong Pissflaps posted:Agreed. It's unthinkable that Labour could lose either of them. If they did it would be a disaster. Pissflaps posted:It's inconceivable that the opposition could lose a by election to the government. It hasn't happened for something like forty years. Pissflaps posted:I think Stoke is in the bag for Labour. Copeland is the more interesting contest. Just call me Mystic Meg on this though: Pissflaps posted:Yeah if Labour does lose either seat there's no way Team Corbyn will take responsibility, and people like you won't expect him to.
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