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unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

DoctorWhat posted:

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/826869092619522048

I'm going to this. Anyone else?

I am as well as the three or four other people who already posted in the thread saying they're going.

It's definitely going to be one of those things where I show up just to stand outside, cold, for two hours.

Edit: lol sorry, thought this was LAN

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# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 15:01

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 13:16

unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

and how the hell do I get on my community board

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 20:05

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This is a good article about the Peralta thing: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/a-movement-grows-to-unseat-a-turncoat-queens-democrat-9636815

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 20:29

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CaptainPsyko posted:

Also, DSA and NKD are wholly unlike the WFP. Maybe in a year or two they'd rate being part of a rundown of "This Is Who Matters in NYS Politics" but they are far from there yet, whereas the WFP is a legitimate (albeit somewhat bloodied of late) powerbroker.

Yeah, this is an accurate assessment currently. I'm hopeful we'll mean something soon. De Blasio wanting to come speak at the first Queens meeting was a very good sign. Democratic politicians know that there's some radicalization happening to their left -- it's our job to be the cohesive face of it, I think.

If anyone wants to hear more about DSA, we have our own thread now: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3808020

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 14:51

unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

get that OUT of my face posted:

nerd bullshit lol

Can you, or anyone really, describe the differences between the state senate and the state assembly? Like, differences in function/responsibility, cultural differences, relative power and prestige, etc.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 21:49

unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

get that OUT of my face posted:

it sorta feels like we're at the cusp of a turning point, but we're not there yet. arguably, we were closer before this spat of defections to the IDC. fwiw i heard Stewart-Cousins is a terrible leader and she probably needs to face some sort of backlash for this happening on her watch while she says things decrying it while doing nothing to prevent it. Gianaris probably needs to go too

Gianaris is my state senator, but I don't know a ton about him policy-wise. What's your take on him?

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 14:45

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The next Queens DSA is less than a week away:

https://twitter.com/fotemp/status/834445154836738048

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 19:41

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Matt Zerella posted:

I live in Queens, dummy.

Speaking of which, Queens DSA meeting is this Tuesday in LIC. You in?

edit: https://twitter.com/fotemp/status/836216174652313601

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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 05:36

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Yeah, we actually had some hiccups, and I'm pretty happy with how it turned out after all.

https://twitter.com/fotemp/status/836732961726808064

We did an introduction to the working groups so people can start to get involved on issue campaigns, that was a our big thing. Next meeting is March 22nd, a Wednesday. Location TBD.

Thanks to all the goons who showed up! I think it was about half a dozen or so

# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 16:57

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gobbagool posted:

I'm stoked about this. I'm a NYS conceal carry permit holder, and go to the gulf coast for spring break. Even though I could probably buy a pistol on a whim in Alabama, i can't carry mine there, dumb as hell. It's a civil right no matter how much it makes libs wet themselves

lol

# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 23:04

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What exactly is the issue that is hoped to be brought up at the convention?

That's what I feel like I'm missing here.

# ¿ May 4, 2017 21:18

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goose willis posted:

To this day I refuse to believe there is actually a human being named Zephyr Teachout

From someone else with a stupid name like that: cut it out, buddy

# ¿ May 5, 2017 14:05

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get that OUT of my face posted:

he still wants that, apparently, seeing as he blatantly announced yesterday he's setting his sights nationally by focusing on congressional seats with pelosi (puke). the thought of strengthening his credentials here by helping his ostensibly own party from getting the senate back has never occurred to him

Can you expand on this? I hadn't heard about it and don't see any articles clearly referring to it

# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 20:51

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CaptainPsyko posted:

Meanwhile, the republicans really are going to let Mayoral control of NYC public schools fall apart...

Wait what?

# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 14:15

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GalacticAcid posted:

Jabari got over 1,000 votes on the "Socialist" line. Was that SPUSA's line, or just like, a non-party thing along the lines of "Dump the Mayor"?

The latter

# ¿ Nov 8, 2017 19:05

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I think we mentioned it in the LAN thread already, but I thought this thread might want this too: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-system-failure-delays.html?referer=

# ¿ Nov 20, 2017 14:38

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From the NYC LAN thread:

grah posted:

incoming.

I don't think that the SUBWAY ACTION PLAN is going to adequately address the problems the system is facing. I mostly only know the Signal side of it, but it is dumb and bad and I'll try to explain why.

So on June 29 Andrew Cuomo signed Executive Order # 168 declaring a state of emergency in response to a glut of MTA delays, not only on the NYCT Subway but also the Penn Station debacle, and Metro North and LIRR problems.

The order came with a sizeable amount of money to address those problems, and suspended a number of regulatory laws, primarily dealing with the hiring of contractors. There were also some suspensions to State Finance Law, and a suspension of the law requiring environmental impact statements for major projects. Notable highlights include removing Comptroller oversight of contracts, removing the non-collusion provision between the MTA and Contractors authoring bids, weakening/removal of MTA board oversight of the chairman's contract awards, suspension of some of the rules governing the bid process, and suspension of the legal obligation for prompt payment of contracts by the MTA. It is a really bad executive order that has gone largely under the radar. It's been extended every 30 days since its inception and is still in effect now.

Besides giving Joe Lhota basically free reign to hire whatever contractors and execute whatever projects he likes, the MTA has also claimed that the presence of an emergency gives them broad authority to force overtime, cancel days off, and reassign personnel. Which they sort of have, the collective bargaining agreement does make a lot of allowances for emergencies. But these are largely powers meant to be used in response to a disaster--when Sandy hit and the MTA ordered most of its workforce to stay on the job for days at a time, that was the sort of thing the emergency powers in the contract are meant for. The MTA exercising those powers on a continuous basis over several months is really lovely to the workforce, and is ultimately what drove me to resign.

New York City Transit is, and since at least 2008 has been understaffed by about 150 - 200 Signal Maintainers. There are a lot of reasons for this but probably the biggest is that Signal is seen as a very undesirable department to work in. Signal Maintainers frequently take civil service exams to go elsewhere, and Transit Electrical Helpers assigned to Signal frequently seek reassignment to other, better departments. In terms of hourly compensation, Signal Maintainers are about middle of the road for similar maintenance titles. But they respond to trouble the most frequently (often requiring unplanned overtime at the end of a tour), have among the highest number of undesirable tours, and have notoriously bad management, and aside from Track Department, they spend far and away the most time on the trackway. New employees in Signal are routinely told to get out if they can, and many do--to Car Equipment or Lighting or Telephones or anywhere else.

At the same time, there were some high profile incidents on the Subway, in particular a power loss on the D/F line over the summer that created massive delays on multiple lines, and had passengers stuck in un-air conditioned cars in the tunnels with no power for way too long. The MTA blamed ConEd (because their feeds died on us!) and ConEd blamed the MTA (cause we plug their feeds into a bunch of 80 year old transformers that are maybe not the best). So Cuomo ordered ConEdison to hire contractors to inspect every piece of electrical equipment we have, including Signal equipment. He had ConEd hire them instead of the MTA as a little end-around of our Collective Bargaining Agreement, which requires bids like this to go through a farming out committee that includes union people, to determine if the work could be better done in-house.

Typically outside contractors work under General Orders. That is, we shut down the track for them--only MTA people are qualified to work on in-service track. General Orders have to be secured by Signal Maintainers, because only we are qualified to verify that all switches leading to the work area are secured in such a way that no train can physically enter it. But since we're already understaffed, ~quadrupling the number of general orders we have to secure exacerbates that problem. In addition, when contractors do need flagging it is typically provided by Rapid Transit Operations personnel (conductors by title who chose a flagging job, basically). But they also don't have sufficient personnel to support the sudden massive increase in contractors on the property, so for the Signal work, Signal department is providing flagging personnel. Additionally, we have to provide them personnel to access our rooms, and to make sure they don't break our equipment or damage service (which they keep doing, a lot, but we'll get to that). So you have an understaffed department that was sort of limping along making its maintenance goals by using a lot of overtime, and now their workload is massively increased.

The response to this has been to bring in still more contractors in order to keep up the maintenance--even though the contractors are not qualified signalmen, their performance of maintenance is in violation of the collective bargaining agreement, and they aren't actually able to legally certify that the equipment tests sufficiently. But they can do the work to, theoretically, minimize breakdowns due to lack of maintenance. This pulls even more Signal people away from their normal work and into supporting contractors.

In addition, the current class of Maintainer Trainees who are supposed to be in Signal School right now had their training suspended, so they could all be sent to go and flag for contractors. So the manpower problem is only getting worse.

In response, Transit lifted the overtime cap (previously if you made more than $149,000 in the previous rolling 12 month period, you'd be banned from working non-emergency overtime until that was no longer true), and lifted the ban on back to back doubles. That is, the ban on working 16 hour shifts on consecutive days. That ban was in place as a safety issue, because accident rates skyrocket when you work 32 out of 40 hours of your life. When that proved insufficient they also began a program of mandatory overtime. I had been working ~10 hour days doing work extremely unrelated to my actual job on a daily basis. A great number of other maintainers were having one of their 2 days off per week cancelled, being made to work 12 hours on their regular day off. Transit also put out a voluntary job bid for people to switch to a standard 10 hour day, working 10pm - 8am. They had 51 maintainer jobs of this nature (well some were 7am - 5pm), and got very few bids. Therefore they assigned those jobs. They assigned me, and at that point I resigned.

Strain on the workers aside, there are 2 serious problems with what's happening here.

Firstly, the signal work is fairly specialized. There are only but so many signal contractors in the city who do this sort of work, and they only have so many qualified personnel. To meet this sudden demand, they're bringing in anyone they can, and they don't have Transit's training requirements or standards. Even though a lot of their workforce is Local 3, the work an electrician does and the work a signalman does are pretty different. And even basic electrical work-wise, their personnel seem to be lacking. At least once that we've documented they simply failed to properly crimp a wire into a connector. That's like, super basic stuff--you crimp a wire on and then you tug real good on that wire to make sure it's solid. So a track lead fell out of its connector near Vernon Jackson Avenue and delayed, officially, 127 trains during the AM rush hour last week. I've heard from other maintainers that this has happened other times but was caught and rectified with less dramatic delays, but the one at Vernon Jackson is the only one I have actual photographic evidence for. On a different day, I actually responded to a trouble where, to test a generator hook-up they'd installed, the contractors turned off all the power in the middle of the day, delaying several 4 trains around 3 in the afternoon and requiring us to respond to an apparent signal trouble. Basically a lot of these guys don't know what they're doing, they actively avoid oversight by Signal personnel, and they're installing equipment that either doesn't work as well as some of our older equipment or is irrelevant to the causes of delays. Certainly some of the work they're doing is useful and they have some talented signalmen, but by and large this isn't the case.

And that's my second problem--the work they're doing is mostly irrelevant to the causes of signal delays. Within Signal at least, their work falls into 3 major categories. They're installing generator quick-connects, they're changing our bootleg pins to a new style, and they're doing the maintenance that we're supposed to be doing.

Generator quick connects are nice. Currently, if we need to hook up a generator in most locations, we have to figure out a way to run between 2 and 5 2/0 wires (2/0 is about a third of an inch in diameter, excluding the insulation, so fairly heavy) anywhere between 50 and ~300 feet, sometimes down hatchways or stairwells, or up structure columns to elevated rooms, sometimes along the trackway, and then into the rooms to connect them to the panels. So the idea is that at each location where we ever might need a generator, to install a panel in an accessible place on the street that is permanently connected through a switch to our reserve power supply. Then we can just drive a generator up to that box, hook it up in like a minute, and turn everything on. This is cool and good! But it's not going to have a huge impact on train delays, because losing power only very rarely causes train delays. And when it does, most of the response time is towing a generator to location through traffic. This is because we always operate with 2 sources of power, a Normal and a Reserve. And it's actually quite rare that we lose both at the same time. So if we lose the Normal, say, a switch automatically puts on the Reserve and the riding public will never even notice. There is absolutely zero impact to service. We just get an indication of a power failure, and we go and hook up a generator so that we have a backup in case we lose the Reserve, and we investigate the power loss and fix it. It's a good system. Yes, it failed when ConEd lost multiple feeders over the summer, and when that happens it is pretty bad. But that is a rarity--it's a big delay but it's not a common one. So most of this work (and we're talking about 100s of signal power panels, if not thousands), will almost never affect anything. Even with the hookups, that delay still would have happened, and been only marginally shorter. The majority of that delay was confusion about which feeds were out and where the generator(s) were most needed, and then actually getting them to the location.

Bootleg pins are what we call the metal pin bonds that we use to electrically connect signal energy onto the rails. We drill a hole in the web of the rail (the narrow part in the middle, between the base and the ball), and we insert a tapered metal pin made out of softer steel than the rail. Then we smack that pin with a hammer so that the soft metal pin is forced to deform slightly, making a very firm connection to the rail. These pins work very well. But if you read through trouble reports, you'll frequently see the phrase "changed bootleg pin, track circuit working as designed." And if you don't know very much about how Signal Maintainers in NYCT work or speak, you would think that there is a big problem with bootleg pins, and that we'd better get a different solution! And that's what they're doing. Except in better than 9 out of 10 troubles written up that way, the pin wasn't the problem. The problem is almost always the wire connection into the pin. People step on the wires, the wires corrode or break down over time, green mold gets on the wires and causes high resistance, track fires melt the wires, all kinds of stuff happens out there. So we cut off the old pin, cut back the damaged portion of the wire, attach a new pin, and the track circuit works again. And almost every maintainer in the system will put that in his report as "changed bootleg pin, working as designed" because that's what they did. So now we have this massive useless contract to change all our bootleg pins to a threaded connector held on by a nut, which at best will have no noticeable effect on service reliability at all. In fact, the new connectors seem to be less reliable, whether because of their design or because they're being installed incorrectly, and we have not been issued the tools to replace them, so trouble response now requires an additional layer of improvisation to get the drat thing working again.

Lastly we now have contractors doing a lot of maintenance. This means two things:

Firstly--they've basically never done maintenance before, so they're learning on the job, with all the problems you'd expect that to cause. In particular, since they're doing the maintenance and not us, and since the push is to get as many numbers through as possible, nothing is being winterized. That is, with outdoor equipment, usually in October or so, we take extra care to get any built up water of the equipment. We put fresh oil in things, and in some places put alcohol or antifreeze into machines to prevent them freezing. We also survey and repair any heaters meant to prevent cold related troubles. Winterizing equipment is always a challenge, because we're short staffed and it takes a lot of time, but typically when you have a crew that knows their section, they can prioritize the stuff that freezes most often and we can head off a lot of delays. But these are brand new people from outside, who don't even know they're supposed to be winterizing the equipment. Last I knew uptown, virtually nothing is being winterized. This could make for real trouble if they don't manage to catch up by the time we start getting a lot of freezing days and precipitation, should it be a harsh winter.

Secondly, these contracting companies (LK Comstock in particular, but they're not the only ones) want their people to get this experience because they want to bid on the maintenance on a regular basis. It's something that has real potential for union busting and a lot of people are fearing for their jobs over the next couple of years. Because there's a lot of money to be made in maintenance, and a lot of hay made in the media about how New York City has the highest per-mile maintenance costs of any subway in the world. Largely that's down to how drat much maintenance the antiquated system requires, the inclusion of trouble response standby in maintenance costs, the fact of a 24 hour railroad biting into productivity, and the high cost of living in New York City necessitating higher wages. But it's sort of a wedge that can be used to try to break the union's exclusive hold on maintenance. Especially since a lot of those factors don't apply to contractors--they're not paid for standby, the cost of having us assist them is still held against the unionized work force in labor cost calculations, and we shut down tracks for them so of course they can be more productive (not having to set up flagging, and not having to stop what you're doing every 4 - 15 minutes to let a train go by will obviously impact productivity). So it's easy to make an exaggerated case for the savings available by ditching TWU and contracting out this Signal Maintenance, even though those savings are largely illusory.

I see the classic republican/neo-liberal strategy of privatisation at work here. Understaff and underfund an agency until it fails, declare that the public agency is failing, and privatize as much of as you can. Even if this is a good faith effort by the MTA and the Governor to fix the subways and not just a political stunt with the added bonus of union busting (synergistically timed with the coming onslaught of Janus v AFSCME), it's being mismanaged because the people looking at the data don't know what that data really means, and because they have agendas of their own. In particular, they would very much like to go work for these contractors after they retire. And many, many senior supervisors and managers have unofficial guarantees of employment from the contractors while they're still on the job. Our Code of Ethics prohibits this, and in fact requires 2 years between leaving the MTA and working for anyone that the MTA pays for things, but I have never ever seen this enforced, and everyone knows it is not enforced.

So everything is hosed. I quit for a lot of reasons. I (and about 45 other maintainers) was told on Friday that beginning Sunday (so, Saturday night) I would be working 10pm - 8am (10 hour minimums! whoo!) instead of my picked tour, which was 8am - 4pm, and that additionally my new job would involve holiday coverage, whereas I was in a holidays off job. So less than a week before Thanksgiving I was being ordered to work overnight on Thanksgiving. And it's a dumb petty thing but I'd had enough.

The past few months before this nonsense started, I loved my job. I did good work with a great crew, and I genuinely enjoyed coming into work most days and I enjoyed going home sore and tired at the end of the day, because it felt like the work mattered. After years of putting up with crappy schedules, weekdays off and working every holiday, I felt like I had a schedule where I could start to put my life back together outside of Transit, and still go and do good work. And I just wasn't willing to give up all the other parts of my life that I was starting to enjoy for a company that didn't give a poo poo about its people, that fought my father tooth and nail to avoid taking any responsibility at all for literally poisoning him to death, and that is being run into the drat ground. And I certainly wasn't willing to give up my life to go and not do actual Signal work, but to spend every night helping contractors putter around doing stupid crap and potentially undermining my (erstwhile) union. So gently caress em, I quit.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2017 19:16

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GalacticAcid posted:

Anybody familiar with this? It seems really awful, this is the first I�ve seen about it.

https://twitter.com/LeavittAlone/status/946461135318016001

Is there a reason this isn't something either the State Assembly or State Senate can do something about?

I would ask on twitter, but I deleted my account so I'm not tempted to cyberbully nazi apologists.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2017 21:54

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

Hey, quick question to settle an argument: do working-class New Yorkers drive into Manhattan? Is there information about the socio-economic profile of people who do this? I've always assumed anybody who possibly could, unless they're celebrities or in finance or whatever, use the subways, buses, LIRR, etc.

Aside from very specific circumstances (I've known a couple Bronx guys who drive into the city for night shift work and do street parking), no.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2018 14:44

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Matt Zerella posted:

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/972984267419594752

Just an FYI -- Queens DSA (and I assume Bronx/Upper Manhattan) are voting on recommending her endorsement to the city organization this month. If it passes, it looks like DSA will be one of, if not the, primary groups doing groundwork for her leading up to the primary in June.

I personally think she's great and am pushing in favor, and if you're at all interested you should come out and vote, and then if it passes please please please come out and help with canvassing. Having lots of people ready and willing to put in the effort when a candidate gets our endorsement makes our endorsement that much more valuable, and in turn, makes candidates more likely to push policies we'd agree with (and make policy concessions on things they would otherwise be luekwarm on). And also it can help them win lol

# ¿ Mar 12, 2018 14:59

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Matt Zerella posted:

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974401855768944640

I really REALLY hope she wins the primary.

wow some of the replies on there are really hosed up.

Might have to get back on twitter and get with the cyberbullying

# ¿ Mar 16, 2018 04:32

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get that OUT of my face posted:

it's cool that she got a profile even though it's from the same website that made the completely idiotic video about how you're a racist if you say the word "marijuana"

please don't. also are you going to the happy hour at Doyle's Corner? i'll be there for the first hour

I ended up getting there a little after you, I think. Someone told me there was a goon asking for me

# ¿ Mar 18, 2018 15:43

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Look up the Women's Equality Party if you want some Cuomo laughs

# ¿ Mar 21, 2018 04:59

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

Being one of the first states to just take up marriage equality and pass it isn't nothing.

Oh yeah, he's a real ally to LGBT folks...

https://twitter.com/barry/status/976857693431451649

# ¿ Mar 24, 2018 13:46

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

Is there any evidence he actually did this, though? Andrew wasn't the only person on Mario's staff in both campaigns?

lol in what world do you look at Cuomo and think, "There's no way this man could possibly have said this in the 80s?"

# ¿ Mar 24, 2018 19:18

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Matt Zerella posted:

I think I just got Ocasio-Cortez another vote in the primary while waiting on line at the Rite Aid near me. at the very least, he's going to look her up online and read more.

But have you canvassed yet!?

# ¿ May 29, 2018 22:42

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GalacticAcid posted:

nice

And what about you!?

# ¿ May 29, 2018 22:42

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For Brooklyn or Queens?

# ¿ May 30, 2018 18:24

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

How is BdB so loving bad at this?

The guy seemed so progressive when he was running, but he immediately revealed himself to be a buffoon who cartoonishly steps on rake after rake.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2018 03:38

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

gently caress Cuomo, right? But still... wtf, BdB? WTF?!

Oh, Cuomo is a loving grease trap elemental, don't get me wrong.

BdB is just stupid and completely politically incompetent.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2018 04:13

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If anyone here supports Ocasio-Cortez against Crowley, Queens DSA is trying to do a bunch of record-research type twitter threads in the lead up to the election. Here's one from today, and I think there should be more coming in the new few days about other topics:

https://twitter.com/QueensDSA/status/1006948578483425281

# ¿ Jun 13, 2018 19:53

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Matt Zerella posted:

https://twitter.com/gayhobbes/status/1011019710144663554

I like the "this neighborhood is so multicultural, you've got people from the subcontinent..."

I honestly expected him to go "and we're getting more and more orientals every day"

# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 14:35

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I'm drunk on aoc

# ¿ Jun 27, 2018 05:29

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Rated PG-34 posted:

Our Socialist Party local met with Howie Hawkins today. He�s seeking our endorsement for his run for NY governor on the Green Party ticket. He�s actually been a member of the Socialist Party since 1973; he�s running on the Green Party ticket as they actually have ballot access. He�s been trying to shift the Green Party further left, but so far there�s only some vague socialist stuff in their charter. If we could somehow manage enough signatures, he�d be happy to also run on a Socialist ticket.

Howie�s platform is a lot more progressive than Cynthia�s; she doesn�t even appear to be running as an open socialist according to her website. As one of the ultimate goals of the left should be to build an independent left party, I think the left should embrace Hawkins over Nixon, whose run is also very much a long shot. At this point, it seems like groups like DSA and Socialist Alternative are moving towards endorsing Nixon unfortunately.

http://www.howiehawkins.org/

Nixon has definitely not said she's a socialist, and honestly probably won't.

And there are people debating endorsing Nixon in NYC DSA, true, but knowing the people pushing for it, the endorsement process, and the timeline....I really, truly doubt it will happen. That said, chapters elsewhere in the state might. I think Buffalo is already tweeting about her actually.

edit: I didn't even know she submitted a questionnaire yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was since the AOC victory, and I haven't paid attention to anything else since

# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 02:58

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Rated PG-34 posted:

here�s the link to the questionnaire:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ZUgQQcy7HFZGdnTWctZy1YdndCV0JGSnBubGVWai1XelJr/view

It's actually not bad, but the tip-toeing around identifying as a socialist won't sit well with a lot of people. I still maintain that I don't think the endorsement will happen, but...after AOC, things have changed.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 03:47

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Gunshow Poophole posted:

vote for Nixon? hell yeah

endorse or campaign for Nixon? lmao no

# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 14:15

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waffles beyond waffles posted:

Oh, that's great! I clearly was confused. I thought her petition drive was to be on the general. Happy to be wrong. If nothing else, I hope this pushes our dumb state towards legal weed.

The biggest thing pushing NY toward legal weed would be NJ doing it and NY wanting make sure they got it before Jersey City and Hoboken built the infrastructure to capture all the tax money.

And it looked like NJ was going to soon, but I think Murphy is now dragging his feet or something.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2018 02:53

unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

i think we need to consider that these people might be being disingenuous

# ¿ Jul 26, 2018 21:05

unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

get that OUT of my face posted:

or any state with a non-retarded voting populace. christie's popularity plummeted in NJ for a fraction of the poo poo cuomo's been doing, and if he had the ability to run for a third term there he would have been stomped into powder and fat

if NYC DSA wants to piss away resources and time for this lost cause of a campaign then they're making a mistake. pick your battles wisely. salazar can win. nixon can't

Queens voted against the endorsements last night, so it has one final vote citywide to decide if NYC DSA endorses Nixon and/or Williams. If it passes, it'll be by a hair and honestly I don't see it using much resources in that case. People vote with their feet in a volunteer-member organization. Very few people are excited enough about it that they'll do it instead of the other work they're already doing. Salazar might get a *slight* boost in volunteer canvassers from it honestly, but not much, I don't think.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2018 22:30

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 13:16

unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

get that OUT of my face posted:

while i'm amazed that both Nixon and Williams got approved at the South Brooklyn vote, it's good to see different opinions at work in all the branches. a few months ago, Zellnor Myrie was narrowly rejected by the Brooklyn electoral group on account of a few things working against him

the citywide meeting should be a blast

Yeah, totally. Something to keep in mind about the Queens internal electorate is that it's very heavily made of the people who did the most work for the AOC campaign (and I'm personally only on the periphery of that group). There's people outside Queens DSA who did a lot of work on the campaign, but being the largest organized bloc of volunteers means that this was a lot of people who had some of the most meaningful insight into the nuts and bolts of how the Nixon/Williams campaign would necessarily have to run if we went forward with it. Even among those people, though, there wasn't a consensus about yes/no.

# ¿ Jul 28, 2018 05:47

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