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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

No better way to avoid blame than abdicating responsibility entirely.

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


Fake news :smugdon:

(literally what 40% of the country will believe)

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

suboptimal posted:

Got a link to this?

Also I look forward to people sleeping outdoors on cold nights in an effort to counter consumption.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/first-lady-visits-childrens-national-300416419.html

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Slim Pickens posted:

I dunno, it reads more like Melania said "Kids should play outside more, fresh air is good for them", not "medicine just makes you sicker, drink this plant slurpee and focus your chi"

Context. She's saying "kids should play outside more, fresh air is good for them" which is well and all, but her husband is pushing policies that will result in kids losing access to actual healthcare.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


This article is really sparse on the backstory. Are they specifically banning Turkish officials from political speech in Germany, or is it a broad measure against foreign officials?

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Mar 5, 2017

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

A Handed Missus posted:

I'm not sure what the specific case is in Germany, but it I assume it is similar to the case in Austria. They have banned Turkish officials from campaigning in support of the referendum among Turks living there.

That seems even weirder, why ban foreign officials from discussing foreign politics among foreign nationals on your soil? Like what is the risk to Germany/Austria they're trying to get in front of.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Gobbeldygook posted:

Here was my progression through news stories on this, starting with that one.

1. This is bullshit! He deserves to be an American citizen!

2. He got busted giving an undercover cop a bag of cocaine? That's trafficking, he's hosed.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-veteran-deportation-hearing-met-20170206-story.html

3. They pinned distribution of two pounds of coke on him? Welp I hope his Spanish is good.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161201/pilsen/miguel-perez-army-veteran-deportation-obama-trump-drug-case.amp

Still don't think he should be deported, but we can't blame Trump for this one because he definitely would've been deported under Clinton or Obama too.

Yup, let's keep fighting that drug war. Surely success is right around the corner.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Bernard McFacknutah posted:

Have you guys thought about just giving Donald J Trump a chance at being president? Maybe things will all work out fine.

This position is too important for on the job training! Oh wait, it's not 2009 any more? Never mind, surely Trump will figure things out as he goes.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Bernard McFacknutah posted:

Fillon is Turbofucked, by the way.

His party are literally about to announce his replacement candidate while he refuses to step down over allegations that he paid his Wife and (at the time) Teenage daughters for state funded work in the form of Legal advice and Political Secretarial work.

Macron will win the 2nd round unless something mental happens.

It's always the petty corruption that gets people in trouble. Appointing an energy executive to run foreign policy? Accepting political donations from financial executives and letting them slide for widespread fraud? Sure, that seems fine. Accepting a payment for your daughter's wedding (or in this case giving paying her for pretend work)? Whoa there, we can't let this slide.

Not that petty corruption is acceptable (not to mention it's far easier to prove), but still amusing what people get worked up over.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Mar 6, 2017

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Svartvit posted:

Understanding the nature of the crime is essential in order for crime prevention and law enforcement to work properly, or sometimes at all. There are many horror stories. Just saying it's conspiracy to commit murder and then taking the day off is improper on so many levels.

Brown-shirts have a tendency to propagandize honour killings but that doesn't make it OK to throw victims under the bus.

How many of these actually happen a year in the US? Is it even double digits?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Handsome Ralph posted:

Did the leaks even show any evidence that the CIA was spying on Americans domestically? Because that would be an even bigger story than the existence of the hacking tools.

The CIA has a long history of illegally spying on Americans domestically. You can take their assurances that they've cut it out at face value, but I don't think it's unreasonable to be concerned about them expanding their capabilities.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Kuroyama posted:

Isn't there a point where we have to just trust that the three-letter agencies aren't spying on Americans illegally? I'm not saying they would or wouldn't, but is there a way to prove if it is or isn't happening without putting everyone's private info out there?

That's the issue though, there's not a good way to establish that illegal spying (or illegal information sharing where it's not outright spying) is not still going on and from the information that has gotten out there's good evidence that these agencies have regularly flouted the law. If there was legitimate oversight it would be a different conversation, but recent leaks have been very clear that intelligence agencies are outright lying to the people that are supposed to have the authority to reign them in - and this has not resulted in any consequences.

If you ignore everything else, then sure, the CIA should be developing these tools and we should not be hearing about it. But in the context of what we've learned about intelligence agencies in recent history :nsa:.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Looks like the President is once again up early and lying on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/839433678275153921

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

The one with the sample tests. The one without follows. When the one with the sample gets TB, the one who is following picks up the sample and tests.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Handsome Ralph posted:

lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/5y6vc0/lpt_place_tape_over_your_laptops_mic_and_camera/

The CIA doesn't give a poo poo about you, neckbeards. And pretty much anyone doing anything involving intelligence work knew to do this years ago.

Alternatively, stare into your camera when you masturbate.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

VikingSkull posted:

Perhaps, and this is crazy, he has no plans to actually allow his name to be used for an escort service and did this simply so that some shady Chinese businessman was prevented from doing so instead.

The escort trademark is just a humorous aside. The main issue presented by the article is that the process appears to have gone unusually smoothly, suggesting that Trump's status as President is effectively enriching him. This is the essence of why the ethically appropriate thing for him to do was divest all of his holdings in the Trump Organization after being elected.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

e: Not gun chat.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Getting death threats from the military is very :stare:

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

BigDave posted:

Some good news, the economy added 235k jobs last month.

Some (maybe) bad news, the Fed is gonna raise interest rates next week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/...e=Homepage&_r=0

Thanks, Obama.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


So entirely without specifics?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Dead Reckoning posted:

I imagine it's because good Samaritan protections don't cover people you just shot. Better to wait for the actual paramedics to get there, from a strictly medico-legal perspective.

Doesn't hurt that dead people make for terrible witnesses.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

That's not really interesting without the schedules though, is it?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Godholio posted:

From the very last page, and there are plenty of public officials that like using DOD as the "perfect target" for budget cuts. We've seen it since 1992, and at some point we go too far, but the defense budget is still the big target because it's a huge amount of money and barring a major war when it's too late, there's almost no way to prove that we've gone too far.

It's like the Laffer Curve. Yes, theoretically there is a tax rate at which raising taxes will decrease revenue, but every developed country in the world and especially the US are so far from that point that it's barely worth discussing. And yes, theoretically there is a level of defense spending cuts that could leave the United States unable to meet its defense needs and foreign policy commitments. But that point is far below the current standard of "spending as much of the rest of the world combined", so maybe let's shelve that argument for now?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


Why not do this for all federal assistance, starting with those who get the most? I bet a lot of people who take the mortgage interest deduction will get hit before we get to unemployment benefits or welfare. Surely there's nothing underhanded about only applying these conditions to recipients who are likely to be poor.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

LingcodKilla posted:

...

pure evil

That's a funny way of pronouncing liberty.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Hot Karl Marx posted:

expensive oil is good for canadian oil fields (expensive to process tar sands) but not consumers

Why every energy rich devoloped state does not run its energy industry like Norway mystifies me.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Missionary Positron posted:

(apologies for the moonspeak, y'all :v: )

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

psydude posted:

Baltimore has a pretty low COL, so a $15 minimum wage is probably a bit overkill compared to Seattle or DC, where $15/hr barely gets you a cardboard box.

Overkill based on what exactly? To date, I have not seen any solid empirical data showing employment significantly impacted by a minimum wage that's "too high". There's probably a level where that is the case (that is, the effect of decreased employment overwhelms the wage increase), but the pearl clutching from business owners keeps the debate far, far away from any such hypothetical minimum.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

psydude posted:

Living wage for the cost of living? Which is exactly what I said in my post? The arbitrary $15 amount that a lot of people have latched on to doesn't account for the high variance in COL between localities. In NYC, $15 isn't nearly enough to live off of. In Eastern Kentucky it's​ probably far more than many places can realistically afford to pay their lowest level employees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...920d_story.html

Seattle and Baltimore have nearly identical costs of living*. But that's not even the point. Severely economically depressed areas like Appalachia are the exception, and $15 an hour is more than reasonable for most metropolitan areas in the country - including many parts of the country where a state-level minimum wage is not even a remote possibility and the only hope is a federal increase. And even the $15/hr level still leaves plenty of room for an economically viable higher local minimum wage in some of the higher cost of living metros.

That said, yes, $15/hr across the board is semi-arbitrary. But messaging is important, and what fits better in a political sign/slogan/commercial - "Fight for $15" or "We would kindly request that you set the minimum wage to an empirically determined level that meets a definition of living wage, to be determined, that is regionally adjusted for cost of living and indexed to inflation, with further reevaluation in the future as economic conditions change"?

*
http://livingwage.mit.edu/metros/42660
http://livingwage.mit.edu/metros/12580

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


The best part was where he was claiming he was 'hiking the Appalachian Trail' for most of the week.

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