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What if Frasier Crane joined the Fantastic Four?
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2017 21:36 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 05:01 |
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Kelsey Grammar had raging problems with alcoholism while recording several seasons of this show.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 16:54 |
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Cosmik Slop posted:Anytime Frasier "went to a conference" Kelsey was in rehab/detox What? Was that a thing? I don't really remember any episodes of Frasier Minus Frasier. Calaveron posted:Supposedly Grammer would just be sitting down unresponsive and zonked out of his mind but as soon as they called action he'd immediately react and start acting only to shut down again after the scene ended This is what I heard too. Like the guy was basically completely blitzed to the point where he couldn't move, but when a scene was rolling he went hard like a goddamn madman until "cut" was called and then basically drop wherever he was.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 18:44 |
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At what point does the Fras' get a haircut and stop looking like a homeless former symphony conductor? I want to throw on the show while I'm working on some stuff but I don't want to have nightmares about how bad that hair was later
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 22:38 |
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Yeah I think he's well spoken but venomously right wing, and a little psycho. To be fair I think like half his family was murdered, in one case I think a shark may have been involved
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2017 01:25 |
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numberoneposter posted:kelsey grammar is just a fun actor to watch even if you dont like frasier this x forever
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2017 01:36 |
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I started rewatching at s3 because he didn't have clown hair in the thumbnails and it's been really good so far, lots of classic episodes
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2017 03:35 |
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Frasier is great because he and Niles are such extraordinarily awful people most of the time. It's like Always Sunny with rich socialites and sherry instead of undereducated poor people and beer.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2017 15:56 |
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The most hosed up episode is the one where a series of awkward misunderstandings leads Niles and Frasier to kill and eat Eddie. Then they replace him with a new dog but Martin doesn't even notice. I know. They serve him with mint jelly when everyone knows that disrupts the delicate balance of flavors in terriers. I couldn't sleep the night I saw that episode I was so upset.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 20:23 |
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is it okay to really like frasier but think cheers is kinda trash ? asking for a friend
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# ¿ May 17, 2017 16:40 |
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Timby posted:Cheers is really, really, really good for its first, like, six years. Those last five seasons, though ... oof. The finale was great, though. i've only seen some of the early stuff, the only episode i remember at all really is the one where the sports fan lady waitress assaults some dude for talking poo poo about the bar owner to the show's credit it wasn't just a one-off gag, it was like the impetus for the episode: "you flew off the handle and ASSAULTED A CUSTOMER and now he is SUING YOU" but it still felt really lame and bad
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# ¿ May 17, 2017 16:47 |
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artsy fartsy posted:My least favorite episode has got to be the one where Roz's baby daddy's parents show up and have these enormous noses. That's the joke. And, okay, maybe funny when you see it for the first time, but then you have to watch every other character walk in and laugh hysterically at this dumb joke over and over and the noses look really fake and it's just bad. I'm trying to remember what else happened in that episode but all I can recall is that stupid scene. That really WAS the whole joke. The cherry on the poo poo sundae was that Roz's baby daddy's nose had work done after an accident - her kid's destined to have a huge honker too. Still, as weak as the premise was, I appreciate the times in the show when they're all busting a gut laughing together instead of sniping at each other over aged brandy.
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# ¿ May 18, 2017 23:10 |
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SCROTO TURBOSPERG posted:does anybody ever talk about how much of an absentee father frasier is i wanna say it was theorized in this thread that a lot of his insecurities and eccentricities could probably be traced back to losing custody of his kid so hard that he literally moved to the other side of the country i never watched cheers long enough for him to show up but apparently his personality is different enough for that to be a valid opinion?
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# ¿ May 24, 2017 16:41 |
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Cosmik Slop posted:It should have been Niles and Mel. She was never the raging bitch-goddess the show had to turn her into so the Niles/Daphne "magic" would look better in comparison. i've heard this parroted a lot in this thread and elsewhere and its' like lol, did you actually watch the show u motherfuckre, because the literal first episode with mel had her being an insane shrill harpy woman who immediately negged niles into getting plastic surgery haha i mean niles isn't a great person or anything but come ON lol
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# ¿ May 28, 2017 17:50 |
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she literally made a point of trying to engender enmity between the crane brothers vis a vis the wine club and stuff, i mean i've seen you post insanely stupid poo poo SK, I get that it's your gimmick, but you're wrong and she's bad, sorry
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# ¿ May 28, 2017 18:29 |
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ElGroucho posted:Remember when Pam was the sweetest lady during the Jim and Pam romance, and as soon as they got married she turned in to a real sarcastic rear end in a top hat? Sitcom writers know the real deal i don't remember her being the sweetest lady just an enabling bully who cheated on her fiance tbh i also remember her fiance being dumb and insensitive but generally a decent enough dude, and then suddenly when it was time for pam and jim to hook up it was like WHOA BY THE WAY HE'S A HUUUUUUUUUGE VIOLENT PSYCHO, HAHA, DON'T HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THIS GUY CUZ HE'S A JERK in a tonal shift so jarring that loving dwight was regarded as a hero for the whole episode
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# ¿ May 28, 2017 19:11 |
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Mega64 posted:Don't feel bad for Roy. He would've been stuck in a depressing rut married to Pam, and even though he hit rock bottom, in the final season he ended up owning a successful business and marrying someone hotter and generally seeming much happier than Jim and Pam were. that was genuinely uplifting it's kinda like the new gilmore girls miniseries which kind of retroactively justifies the entire original show by showing rory's life falling apart more and more over the course of a year because being a snobby pretentious wit-dispenser is not actually a marketable skill
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# ¿ May 28, 2017 19:20 |
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sassassin posted:Rory spends the entire original series loving up her life though. seriously the new miniseries is i n c r e d i b l e for making this explicit. like emily's arc is all about her leaving behind her elitism and social circles and becoming more grounded, lorelai basically realizes that if she keeps being the rebellious manic pixie girl she's going to push people away forever and settles down, and rory just spends every single movie loving up her life worse and worse by her own precocious do-no-wrong hands until it culminates in those Last Four Words. ....which honestly kinda lost their impact so long after the show first aired, since rory's now as old as lorelai was when the show started and she was 16 naem posted:Alexis Bledel is super hot though this is why i started watching that show but i still dig it tbh hmmm i think i've posted about gilmore girls in this, the frasier thread. roz is really hot. also when daphne was pregnant I thought the show actually capitalized on it well and gave it some meaning beyond "lol fat people"
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# ¿ May 28, 2017 20:22 |
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sassassin posted:You are. The idea that Emily and Richard are bad people is just where the show begins, as its jumping off point. Lorelai's view of them is frequently proved to be wrong, and her method of parenting leads to Rory becoming a selfish idiot who breaks up marriages and runs off with the similarly selfish rich playboy idiot. Emily in particular has her rough moments but viewed from the lens of having to deal with Lorelai her whole life that's pretty understandable. Richard, however, is a drat saint the whole show through. It really is amazing to watch again, knowing how it ends now (after A Year in the Life) - all the criticisms of the characters and how offputting they would be in real life was entirely intentional on the part of Amy Sherman-Palladino and resolved wonderfully. Even Luke seemed to go through significant growth. Plus, the scene at the end of YitL where Emily is working at the whaling museum, scaring kids with stories of blood gushing everywhere is both one of the funniest things I've ever seen and the best resolution to a character arc ever, and it would have had zero impact without the full run of the show leading up to it.
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# ¿ May 30, 2017 17:37 |
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revolther posted:That show where two annoying women ruin lives and annoy a whole town by misquoting groucho marx bullshit. c'mon, it's not just the two women ruining lives, melissa mccarthy's husband on the show lied to her about getting a vasectomy and it's played for laughs as she finds out she's pregnant again
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# ¿ May 30, 2017 19:27 |
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FuhrerHat posted:how are yall talkin gilmore girls and nobody said paris rules paris rules super hard so does jess once he stops being a dick just for the sake of it all the time dean is scum
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# ¿ May 30, 2017 19:39 |
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Didn't the series end with Rory getting on Barack Obama's plane? yes, after she met her personal idol just by chance, and the entire town came out to throw her a last-minute going away party the new miniseries set in 2016 showed that she utterly failed to capitalize on that before waffling about between increasingly worse jobs. she ends up back in the small town after failing all the way back home and can't even find a job there - despite how much everyone always loved rory, stars hollow got along just fine without her, probably better in fact. she finally ends up editing her small town newspaper for literally no money and getting pregnant with the kid of her rich ex-bf who is engaged to some french aristocrat, forced to watch as the people around her lead fulfilling lives with each other and not squandering ivy-league educations on nothing
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# ¿ May 30, 2017 21:09 |
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Strudel Man posted:I thought Gilmore Girls was the comedy about the four old ladies? that's The View
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# ¿ May 30, 2017 21:47 |
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Solice Kirsk posted:I liked Mel too. She wasn't like Maris. She cared about Niles and was no where near as snippy as everyone else in the show, but they all aced like she was this horrible garbage monster because she suggested that Niles could be cork master (a stupid thing to begin with). Even the episode the used to establish she was a bitch they just skipped over everything and just had the main cast tear into her after the time skip. you've said this a few times in this thread and it's just so boneheadedly stupidly wrong it's amazing mel is, literally from the first scene she's introduced in, a condescending control freak who browbeats niles into getting unnecessary cosmetic surgery. she didn't give two shits about niles, she cared about his status, hence the whole toastmaster thing. she has zero redeeming qualities and the fact that she's the victim of the rest of the cast being lovely to her doesn't magically make her a good person.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2017 22:09 |
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Sagacity posted:It...? you can't truly be this bad at reading
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 14:13 |
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WampaLord posted:They ruined his Thanksgiving, I believe. yeah, meanwhile Niles or Martin or someone is trying to make the kid less of a wuss and give him a black eye and allergic reaction
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2017 01:28 |
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wtf is mahoney dubbed over in that clip? RIP old ugly chair man legitimately sad about this one, he seemed like a cool old guy
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2018 01:02 |
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reminder that mel bullies niles into unnecessary cosmetic surgery in literally the scene she is introduced
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2018 18:13 |
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WampaLord posted:Am I wrong? Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:the smaller the grain size for a given substance, the larger the total surface area. if you've got 10g of salt, one in a monolithic chunk and the other in insanely fine powder, the latter has a bigger surface area put another way, if you had a big rock of salt and the same volume of salt pounded down into the finest grain imaginable, which do you think would dissolve in a cup of water first? your first point was basically exactly backwards
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2018 20:30 |
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I actually really like the parking garage episode, but it's not the kind of thing you want to rewatch that often.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2018 18:54 |
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Cosmik Slop posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you people the parking garage episode is frasier getting totally completely wrecked by a nonissue because of his ridiculous hubris, it's like the ur-frasier plus i think the payoff at the end is p funny like i said, though, it's long enough and awkward enough that you really don't want to watch it too often
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2018 21:23 |
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beast is about as frasier crane as you can possibly be in a mainstream comic book, and the fact that he already has s1 frasier hair probably helped grammar nail the role seriously though replace "dinner party" with "idiotic experiment that almost kills all of reality" and "radio show" with "blue fur" and they're identical
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2018 07:50 |
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Cosmik Slop posted:The joke would've worked a lot better without that long, climactic speech Martin did in the first season about how his chair was the one remnant of his old life, how it was tied up with the most precious memories a man could ever have, and how no god drat leather recliner could ever even come close. it makes the joke even better, because giving impassioned speeches and going back on them later is a mondo Crane move
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2018 02:24 |
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I feel like that's not a good thing to google. you and i are very different people
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2018 16:49 |
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it's astounding how even late season 'bad' frasier still shits all over most other sitcoms niles' Cam Winston accent in the L'Port Argent spa episode is hilarious and that's like late season 10 the overwrought 'oh no niles had a heart attack' episode is really bad when they're in the hospital, but even the episode leading to it is pretty great.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2018 07:45 |
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Marenghi posted:He was, even after he got Daphne he was. the whole point of that episode was calling that out and trying to acknowledge how weird their relationship really was, and i think it did an okay job (certainly far better than most shows that would just ignore it and roll) quote:Come to think of it they never had much meaningful interaction prior to her finding out his secret obsession. he saw her basically every day and hung out with her a bunch, like yeah he was making excuses to see her but he still did see her. poo poo, she is prepared to temporarily move in with him when she has a fight with martin's gf Sherry. quote:He was the gooniest character when you think of it. no argument there
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2019 17:49 |
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the episode where they reminisce about leon, the long lost third crane, got dark fast
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2019 22:54 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Yeah I started watching Cheers off and on and got really weirded out by Sam literally breaking in the door to Diane's apartment. lmao i just saw this episode for the very first time and was like "holy poo poo call the cops" and diane did not disappoint e: The Saucer Hovers posted:dont worry in the next to last episode he gets woke and shits all over himeslf and the show really? spoiler me cuz there's a million seasons of this
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2019 17:58 |
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i'm watching cheers and sam wants to watch tv at dianes house and he has to go and grab the TV from the closet and set it up on the table and it's this tiny lil 5" screen lmao
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2019 20:52 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 05:01 |
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i gotta say the first season of cheers is really rough and nothing special but there have been some season 2 episodes that are just slaying me cliff: 'ey, diane? i never took a karate lesson in my life, could ya get me to the hospital quick? had me actually laughing out loud despite how clearly telegraphed it was
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2019 22:47 |