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CratSock posted:Based on the 2016 number posted, Liberty would basically have to double revenue from $965M to $1.92B, that is IF we are trying to split the revenue evenly among the teams, and match Ferrari's current amount of $192M. Realistically, there are a lot of problems with that idea. It would take probably a decade or more to achieve that growth I'd guess, which would mean Ferrari's $192M by then would actually be worth a lot less. It's in Ferrari's interest not only to retain their special money, but to retain a huge advantage over what the other teams receive to stay ahead of them on track. Their financial advantage is also a shortcut competitive advantage that's probably just as important. Imagine watching the pretty red cars trundling around behind Force Indias, Saubers, and Renaults on a regular basis. The tears would be epic. It wouldn't be difficult to create a tranche system that lets Ferrari (and others) keep their current funding up to a set dollar figure, and then balances the percentages more in favour of smaller teams. Ferrari wouldn't see their revenue decrease, but if Liberty was able to grow F1 revenue, then Ferrari would start seeing lower and lower percentages above specified dollar tiers. It lets them be special and creates room for smaller teams to get better as F1 grows. It's a widely used financial instrument, so I can't see it causing any legal issues with all the different countries F1 deals with either.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QptGg-uE8LU Some early shots of the pit lane setup. Force India is a less bold pink than I thought, much more pastel.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:24
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wicka posted:what the gently caress I'm going to say that all F1 engines do something like that on a downshift, where they cut fuel to some cylinders to conserve when it's not needed. McLaren is rougher than others, but it's not something that's unusual. The Williams in Barcelona was farting around the track really badly the first week, but they tuned it to be a bit smoother by week 2.
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Mar 25, 2017 03:17
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Mar 25, 2017 05:01
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Norns posted:Kimi just fell asleep lmao Max vs Kimi part II I think Max will make it past.
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Mar 26, 2017 07:07
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learnincurve posted:Nearly 10 second gap for seb and Lewis bitching about power. Excuses for Bottas passing him.
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Mar 26, 2017 07:14
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Kimi was cruising a bit, I thought Max had the pace, but nope. Shows the tires can take it, expect drivers and teams to push them harder in future races.
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Mar 26, 2017 07:35
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Whats the total on constructors with a 1 + 4 vs a 2 + 3? Ferrari might have hedged Kimi a bit to keep the risk down.
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Mar 26, 2017 07:38
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Parc Ferme of awkwardness. (Thanks for adding that up, Ferrari was absolutely covering the odds on that then)
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Mar 26, 2017 07:39
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Carth Dookie posted:I tell you what, Red Bull must be collectively making GBS threads themselves after this race. I think they knew it wasn't going to be anything for them. Really sad about Are Dan, but they came in knowing 5+6 was the best they could have done.
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Mar 26, 2017 07:44
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Jamsque posted:Bring back cryogenic fuels, that's what I say. It's Germany 1982 right now (10:30pm Eastern), which has the first showing of the high speed pit stop. Target is 11 seconds, which is stated with some disbelief by Murray. Typical pit stops are 35+ seconds up to this point. 
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Mar 29, 2017 03:33
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wuffles posted:This may be the dumbest idea ever, but I'm legitimately curious: would it make any sense to one day look at a system opposite of DRS to allow the cars to better follow in dirty air by increasing drag/downforce on demand? The driver could choose to sacrifice some pace for more stability at key points and/or for a limited time to set up the pass? Double post here, but it's not the aero kit which is the direct problem, you can slipstream and get a decent tow, the issue is that the hot air from the car in front degrades your tires very quickly, overheats your brakes, and reduces engine power because it has less oxygen and gives less expansion when combusted. This was present in older races, but tires were much longer lasting and engines were just less sensitive to hot, low oxygen air. I do wonder if an aero design could be made to push hot air up off the track. Maybe terminating the exhaust above the rear spoiler, to mix it with fresh air and push it up a bit?
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Mar 29, 2017 03:38
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1500quidporsche posted:To be honest alot of the issues in recent years was down to the way the Pirelli tyres degraded, how sensitive they were to heat and how unforgiving they were once you overcooked them. That Seb was able follow close enough to push Hamilton into an error is a fairly positive sign given in previous years he would've just backed off to four seconds back to save his own tires. And to be fair to Pirelli, that's because of the way F1 mandates the tires behave. They want to force pit stops without making a rule for them, so the tires degrade much more quickly than is needed at any given 'hardness' level. It makes for some odd results, like the soft being much stickier in cooler conditions than the ultra soft, and the super soft seemingly being obsolete this year. There probably are tire compound setups that could reduce the 'following' problem, but I'm betting they'd also last an entire race, leading to no pit stops for most teams.
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Mar 29, 2017 07:15
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BMW needs to come back. http://i.imgur.com/YW9RInw.gifv
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Mar 31, 2017 01:36
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poty posted:Has anyone done a helmet with pictures of people they admire? My helmet would have Lewis on the front, Theresa May and Margareth Thatcher on the sides, Winston Churchill on the back and the queen on the top. Lewis has had Muhammad Ali and Ayrton Senna pictures on his helmet.
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Apr 2, 2017 23:23
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Alain Post posted:Pascal isn't bad but I love me some Our Gio. This type of skip doesn't bode well for his long term career, though. He'll have to come back and perform noticeably better than Giovinazzi, or he'll turn himself into an also ran and never get another ride. Given Giovinazzi's performance after so few hours in the car, he really has a chance to make a mark in China and Bahrain.
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Apr 4, 2017 04:01
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learnincurve posted:Aaand palmer under investigation for not slowing under yellows. And he should be. Zero tolerance for drivers who behave in unsafe ways.
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Apr 8, 2017 08:31
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DoctorGonzo posted:
That's basically it for his F1 career, too. It was such an amateur mistake in such a very high profile and very watched appearance that nobody is going to forget he shat the bed. He might appear in an F1 car again, but I'd put long odds against him ever getting prime drive. I really did hope he would show well, he had a great chance, but turning the wheel and pushing the throttle down on a wet surface with slick tires is something nobody should do after their first year of karting, let alone driving any other race vehicle ever. This is not some unique F1 thing, this is race driving you should have down pat before the start of your first ever race. So disappointed. I did think China was a good race. Max made a really good show for himself, and took advantage of every bit of luck that came his way. The whining at the end was really rude though, grosjean was seconds ahead, you don't get to complain about bad airflow when your own teammate was climbing up your rear end at the exact same time without any problems. Ferrari made a strategy gamble that was a good bet at the time, but with the VSC switching to a full safety car right after, they lost out. I don't think anything was wrong with that call. Not pulling Kimi in 10 laps earlier was a mistake, though. Secret anger statement: Bottas being unable to keep up with Lewis for the one-two, including spinning the car under safety, really shows that Nico was a much better driver than people like to give him credit for, because even if wasn't as good as Lewis, he could keep up when driving an identical car. Suck it Nico haters. 
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Apr 9, 2017 23:54
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wuffles posted:That's a sweet helmet though. Over the weekend someone (the reverend?) posted about how the FI should be bright pink and I was going to suggest it needed glossy hot pink accents on a flat matte pink field with just a touch of black and white highlights but that was far too many words for phone-posting. I like the pastel pink, it shows up on camera much better than a hot pink would, I think. It's very noticeable without screaming 'notice me'.
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Apr 11, 2017 19:26
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Indy Alonso mini-presser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOjb68CjRgs
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Apr 12, 2017 18:30
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gret posted:"Bottas isn't quite as quick as a driver who will go down as an all time great, therefore he is terrible" -- this thread. Bottas exists to show us how good Nico was vs Lewis in the same car.
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Tsaedje posted:There are non JJoc* rumours that Merc are offering to help Honda out on the down low like they did for Renault a couple of years back Something tells me Merc is much closer to the limit financially than one would think. They are succeeding, but they are also spending a tremendous amount on their power unit, and have just had to take a paycut from the williams customer team. It wouldn't surprise me at all for them to sell a package of 2016 engine performance data and future engineering assist to Honda, knowing that it will take time for Honda to absorb the information and that Mercedes will have moved on. Turning any of their F1 R&D into hard cash is probably a real goal for everybody in management. They are betting a closer Mclaren will be better for them and the sport in the long term than letting the team wither and another engine maker leave. Which is probably true.
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Apr 15, 2017 22:35
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Khablam posted:On-par power units or not, a team that's been on full triage since December won't be competitive. There's really no short-term risk at all. Yeah, Honda has money and Mercedes sees a chance to get a cut with very low risk for themselves. I know I put more detail in my last post, but it comes down to money from a business deal, and any fringe benefits are just that, on the fringe.
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Apr 15, 2017 23:34
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Nico staring down at the room of awkwardness.
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Apr 16, 2017 17:44
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Alonso in talks with Renault. We can hope Palmer gets the bump if that happens.
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Apr 16, 2017 19:05
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Renault pictures an F1 future they can also lose at: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/04/renault-imagines-the-grand-prix-car-of-2027/
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Apr 20, 2017 05:36
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Can someone gif that ToTo expression? I have a feeling we will be needing it a lot this season.
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Apr 30, 2017 16:14
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Vettel crying over his radio at the end of 2010 is one of the funniest moments in recent F1 history. Too bad this was the start of the Vettelreich.
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May 8, 2017 03:26
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Gigi Galli posted:Don't know how much this will change things, but interesting move Didn't these cause the dangerous 'body surf' issue if a car tried to cross them last time we saw them?
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May 11, 2017 03:48
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learnincurve posted:Red bull seem a hell of a lot closer with this new chassis, imagine how competitive they would be with a not-shite engine. Spain isn't an engine power circuit, so they probably still need some extra aero. I have hope for them, though, they clearly know where they are going and what they need to get there.
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I'd love to see Haas ask Ferrari for a brake consult, they really seem stuck on this and I wonder if a fresh perspective might help them.
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May 13, 2017 13:45
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Hamilton desperately keeping his hair hidden.
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May 13, 2017 14:05
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Basticle posted:Nando should cheer up, could be worse... I told you never to come back here, Mike!
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Theophany posted:Sky just showed how on it Nando's lap was relative to Hamilton and Vettel. Holy poo poo that guy would be dominating in either a Merc or Ferrari. Both Hamilton and Vettel made mistakes based on the car pushing into a corner too hard (under steer), something I doubt Alonso suffers from in the McLaren.
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May 14, 2017 12:29
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Thanks Ants posted:Sainz is p. good He's getting a bit over-eager, but showing good performance.
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May 14, 2017 13:19
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Hacking made us slow! Eat a bag of dicks, morons.
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May 14, 2017 13:32
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Still cannot unsee the messed up left rear tire and winglet placement. They are about two feet further 'forward' on the car than they should be. :/
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May 25, 2017 01:29
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If it's not going to make things too tall, I'd love a centered gp2 tag.
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iospace posted:Alright, everyone who asked for a tag got it. Anyone else? I asked, but didn't get one. Did it make everything too tall?
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iospace posted:Yeah, it was too tall It's okay, I was right up against the limits when I got this avatar. I was asking in case the rules had changed since then. 
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