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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Cowboys releasing Romo, Romo leaving football for TV. Per Schefter live on ESPN.

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Ehud posted:

Good for him.

Romo was an awesome QB and it bothers me that his legacy is "choker lol"

but I'm glad he's not going to get hurt anymore

:agreed:

His body just couldn't take even routine hits anyone, it's probably good he's quitting sooner rather than later.

Sorry Texans fans.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Apparently, if Romo retired the Cowboys could have tried to get some of his singing bonus back, but they were never going to do that anyway.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article141140903.html

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
If we're just looking at actual QB play, Romo is #2 behind Staubach for the Cowboys. The difference is Romo wasted his peak years playing for garbage coaches in the "Drunk Jerry GM" era instead of playing for Tom Landry or Jimmy Johnson. By the time Garrett improved to league average and Jerry had started cutting back making personnel decisions while wasted on Johnnie Walker Blue Label, Romo's bones were pretzel sticks.

sean10mm fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Apr 4, 2017

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

No Butt Stuff posted:

lol, NE doesn't beat KC in the regular season.

Unless KC needs to run a 2 minute drill in under 5 minutes to clinch it.

e: To contribute something other than a smartass remark, let's see what FO says about how injured teams were last year:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/2016-adjusted-games-lost

code:
Team	2016 	Rk	AGL	Rk
LARM	29.0	1	80.3	24
TEN	32.0	2	65.2	18
CIN	35.1	3	28.2	1
PHI	38.4	4	52.0	6
SEA	41.1	5	40.1	3
ATL	52.2	6	28.8	2
NYG	52.4	7	138.7	32
NE	54.5	8	93.3	29
CAR	56.5	9	50.9	4
DEN	60.2	10	56.7	10
BAL	60.3	11	96.1	30
PIT	61.8	12	67.1	19
OAK	65.0	13	57.6	11
DET	69.5	14	76.7	23
GB	70.5	15	56.2	9
DAL	70.6	16	51.7	5
JAC	72.5	17	68.9	20
TB	77.5	18	75.0	22
ARI	77.8	19	62.5	14
IND	78.4	20	65.1	17
NO	81.3	21	56.1	8
HOU	91.7	22	64.8	16
CLE	96.4	23	70.7	21
SF	97.5	24	83.9	27
BUF	97.8	25	80.5	25
MIA	99.1	26	63.4	15
KC	99.3	27	54.9	7
WAS	101.5	28	119.1	31
NYJ	110.5	29	61.8	13
MIN	120.6	30	59.0	12
SD	127.8	31	81.5	26
CHI	155.1	32	92.8	28
Da Bears :rip:

sean10mm fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Apr 11, 2017

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
:patssay: avalanche inbound! :haw:

Diva Cupcake posted:

That's not a surprising conclusion. They have a bottom 5 schedule like every year.

Not really.

code:
Year	SoS
2010	2.6
2009	2.3
2004	1.8
2002	1.8
2014	1.3
2006	1
2005	0.6
2007	0.4
2003	0.1
2013	-0.7
2012	-1.4
2011	-1.4
2001	-1.9
2015	-2.4
2008	-2.4
2016	-2.7
Average SOS is 0.0, negative is easier than average, positive is harder than average. 7 out of 16 seasons since 2001 they've had an easier than average schedule. :shrug:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/

Playing the AFC East makes no real difference in their W-L either.

Since 2003, win % (all games): 77.6%
Conference games: 77.2%
Division games: 77.9%
Non-conference games: 79.0%
Non-division games: 77.5%

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/trend/win_trends/non_conference?range=yearly_since_2003&sc=non_division

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Eli Wiggum posted:

Aaron Schatz doing all he can to pick the Pats winning it all without "giant loving homer" as his excuse

Hilariously, Football Outsiders was leading the charge on TOM BRADY IS DONE in 2013, with hot takes built around how Tom Brady was letting Aaron fuckin' Dobson down. Figures they'd go 180 degrees the other way just in time for Brady to turn into a pumpkin from old age.

Wasn't DVOA like hilariously overrating the Eagles for most of the season, before gradually "correcting" to have the Patriots at #1?

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Volkerball posted:

Strength of schedule ratings are meaningless at this point

:agreed:

The Patriots 2016 schedule looked fairly hard going into it and turned into a cupcake. Look at what were assumed to be the hard games going into the season:

Arizona: Went from playoff team in 2015 to trash in 2016
Houston: Brock is even sorrier than was assumed, absolute pushover
Bengals: Went from 12-4 to 9-6-1, pushover
Steelers: Big Ben out hurt when they played, tough game turns into cupcake

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Ehud posted:

*hangs banner in stadium*

WE ALMOST WON @ NEW ENGLAND ONCE

Colts basically did this, only without the almost winning part.

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Hot Diggity! posted:

Packers beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl owned

Nobody loving cared about the Pats either way back then. They weren't even important in their own division the vast majority of the time, never mind generally hated.

Holy poo poo I am a Pats fan telling other people that history didn't start im 2001 :lol:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Kalli posted:

That the Jaguars had no chance against them so the Broncos might as well sit around and jerk off instead of playing the game, then they did and the Jags killed them.

So then the Jaguars went to Foxborough and played in a foggy mess of a game, and then the Patriots got spanked by the Packers because of a loving kick returner and bigot.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that the 1996 Patriots were way worse at everything in football than the 1996 Packers.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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They were a pretty :effort: playoff team that just kind of had everything break their way until they ran into the Packers.

The passing game was above average but not great or anything, the defense was league average, and the running game was below average even though they had Curtis Martin. Drew Bledsoe was always kind of dumb but could huck it real good. And that's kind of it, I think?

Pats fans were thrilled to have him instead of the likes of Tony Eason, but him going against peak Favre and the #1 defense in the league was just kid of lol.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Kalli posted:

They were a pretty good team, and the end result of a 4 year rebuilding process.

in '93, Parcells takes over, flushes the roster, drafts Bledsoe #1 and the team is awful, but then wins out in December (to go 5-11... yeah) and show they were on the right track.

'94 the team is still very thin, they start 4-6, and have 0 running game, but Parcells gives up and lets Bledsoe throw every down, and they go 10-6 before losing to the Belichick Browns in the playoffs.

'95 the wheels fall off, I ... kinda forgot what happened since I spent a chunk of the season in Hong Kong, and only could get news about what happened from USA Today blurbs, but the team regressed hard and was a mess.

'96 Curtis Martin's in his 2nd year, they've got a rookie Terry Glenn to go along with Ben Coates and Troy Brown in their prime and the offense is pretty beastly, while the defense is good enough behind a bunch of super guys like Willie McGinest, Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy and Tedy Bruschi.

Parcells really did turn the team around, but they were not in Green Bay's class in basically any category. It wasn't 1985 Super Bowl level disparity, but it still wasn't good.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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That's not even the best Browns-Bills example!

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200910110buf.htm

Derek Anderson wins with 23 passing yards and a pick!

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Bigass Moth posted:

The snow game was so much fun to watch though.

I also can't believe Trent Edwards and Derek Anderson started NFL games for multiple years.

Imagine if Braylon Edwards had working hands and K2 had working knees. :(

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Come to us Jason, it is your destiny.

Yesssssssssssssss, join evil, we have candy. :getin:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

kiimo posted:

Look man a LOT of us were wrong about Aaron Curry.

I think it approached 100%, he was universally seen as the totally safe, bust-proof choice. Hilarious in hindsight thought.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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:wtc:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Proud Christian Mom posted:

How has someone this retarded beaten Tom Brady and Bill Belichick twice in the Super Bowl

His brain only works in insane pressure situations, otherwise he is an apathetic lump who can barely shuffle through life.

"You want fake game helmets? I guess, whatever, just go away so I can stare at the wall and niff glue."

(A billion people are staring at him in the Super Bowl, hacks the Matrix and does a 360 noscope headshot to Tyree)

:c00lbutt:

sean10mm fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Apr 14, 2017

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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He lie, bad man being!

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Eli Wiggum posted:

The Manning Face used on Daily News' cover is better

The New York Post picture has more of the lazy eye effect going though.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

WHOOPS posted:

I like how "mass murder gang" and "US drops a MOAB" are second banana to a fake jersey scam.

We get the first two every day, :saddowns: being a bizarre clothing scammer is unusual.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
MOAB is just a big conventional bomb, it is in no way comparable to a nuke. It's the difference between tons of TNT and the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of tons.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Chilichimp posted:

We're one Pats Superbowl from being irreversibly Cronenberged.

Long live the new flesh, death to Videodrome!

:patssay::hf::cthulhu:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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FizFashizzle posted:

yeah right

cokewives jumped on balls.

:perfect:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
I'm seeing 6x 1st team All-Pro 10x Pro Bowl. :spergin:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/ThomJo28.htm

Regardless he should be a lock to make the HOF. There's hardly anybody to even compare him to.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
^^ Look at the post right above it.

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Of all the groups to blame for deflategate, ESPN seems pretty far down. Like, not even on the list.

It's super dumb, but I still laughed. gently caress THA HATAHS GO TAHMMY! :derp:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Shadow Over Innsmouth accurately predicted Pats fandom and its resemblance to a horde of gross fish people in 1936, and 1,936 is the number of Super Bowls we're gonna win by the time we're through with you fuckos.

Ia! Ia! Your team being poo poo isn't our fuckin' problem!

:cthulhu:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
The dirty secret of Pats fandom is that the old ones like me are actually the worst, because we believe that knowing who Tony Eason and Rod Rust are somehow entitles us to FUCKIN' EVERYTHING.

Being the sports villain is so much better than being the lovable scrappy underdog, gently caress that poo poo forever.

:patssay:

sean10mm fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Apr 18, 2017

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Bigass Moth posted:

Was there seriously a "is Joe Thomas a hall of famer" debate in this thread? What the gently caress.

Browns fans who don't like him anymore because, quote, "I have a hard time believing he can be as great as everyone says when the Browns have been so horrific during his entire tenure" are real.

They are a tiny group, but they just might be the dumbest subgroup of fans in the history of everything.

Point is, no sports opinion is too stupid to exist.

RisqueBarber posted:

I think everyone agreed he was first ballot.

Also this.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Diva Cupcake posted:

He's been wildly efficient for the last 2 years and you're paying him dirt money. No breathe-holding necessary.

If fact, thinking literally any move the Pats make might not work out incredibly biased in your favor at this point is insulting to the rest of the fanbases.

The funny thing is GC is more of a Patriots propaganda mouthpiece than sites with names like Pats Pulpit, but he's had a random hate of Mike Gillislee all offseason. :iiam:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Brady bailing on Trump - at the last possible second, no less! - for "family matters" is so funny I don't even :laffo:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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I just love the combination of stilted formality (:geno: "Thank you to the President for hosting this honorary celebration") and pure loving doofus (:haw: "Have a great day!")

(Brady looks at ghostwritten official statement)

"Great job, babe, really good work there. I just think it needs a personal touch at the end...and exclamation point! Yeah, that's it."

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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This time it's Brady who does the "siiike!"

:byewhore:

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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fsif posted:

Oh god, I don't even care about the undeserved veneration Brady would get, I need a Trump tweet on the snub.

I wouldn't worry about Brady getting much credit for this, since he supported Trump early on with the MAGA hat in the locker and all that stupid poo poo.

That just makes it 100x funnier for Brady to bail on him at the last instant for transparently BS :airquote: family reasons :airquote:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Eli Wiggum posted:

family issues = being Gisele's bitch

If so, in this case that makes her an international hero.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Kalli posted:

I read that as poletarian and thought you were joking about how everyone at a strip club claims they're dancing to pay for college.

Classic example of a mis-reading being MORE accurate than what was actually posted.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Kalli posted:

Now here's who went:
Rob Gronkowski

Gronk trolled the press secretary in the middle of the press conference, so in that case I don't hold it against him.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Hooooooly shiiiiit :stare:

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

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Bigass Moth posted:

It's good they corrected it, but the damage was already done with the inaccurate reporting in the first place. Most people won't see the retraction or read beyond the headline.

This is an excellent hill to die on, the NYT sports page hurting the feelings of the biggest loving rear end in a top hat in the universe.

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