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The_Doctor posted:Jorj says there was a skeleton crew of 50 on the ship, 20 went down to reverse the engines, where are the other 29 people? It's only been 2 days for him, but he already knows about the proto-Cybermen taking only humans. Time dilation is such a headache. Yeah, I guess the engine crew went down there and then from his point of view, almost immediately the lift came back up and the proto cybes grabbed the other humans.
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King Plum the Nth posted:OK, on my second watch through of World and Time Enough and you know what I love most about Michelle Gomez/Missy/this season? (And the disclaimer here is I'm a really limited fan with most of my experience of Doctor Who is largely limited to TV stories from Tom to the present.) I love how it's the first time I've really thought of The Master as the equal but opposite force to The Doctor. I think if I were better acquainted with the Third Doctor's Era or Big Finish Audios or if I just had a little more imagination of my own this wouldn't be such a revelation. But I'm re-watching Missy introduce herself as "Doctor Who" and thinking back to her line form the Monk three parter about having her own adventures and I'm really thinking -- Missy/The Master has been running around all this time being the Doctor but as a complete rear end in a top hat. Not even a villain. Just a troll. I mean I got that a bit from Trial of a Timelord, now I think of it. The Master was affronted by a properly evil Doctor. But now I really see there is a Master apart of the Doctor; I get a sense of what s/he is up to when she's not specifically in a Doctor Who story. And it's the same thing The Doctor is doing. But with an eye toward being a oval office for the joy of being a oval office. It's kind of retroactively opening up my appreciation of Simm's and Ainley's work too. How could I not have seen The Master as a being unto himself? With Delgado you get a polite, genteel genius who's facade occasionally slips and you see the utter bastard behind. He'll be your best friend right up until it's time for him to gently caress you over, and while you won't see it coming, he'll make sure you know it was him. Everything he did was in pursuit of a bigger goal, though, loving with people was just a bonus. Much as I enjoy Ainley, he's pretty much a pantomime villain in comparison.
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Jun 26, 2017 08:22
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Doctor Spaceman posted:To be fair to Ainley it's not a bad direction to take the character, and it suited the stories he was in. Oh, please don't get me wrong, I thought Ainley was great. I love him being just an utter arsehole playing really dickish pranks on the Doctor throughout 5, 6 and 7's tenure. He's the only thing I enjoy in Time-Flight, particularly that it makes very little sense that he'd even bother to disguise himself (which this last episode feels like a bit of a nod toward). Ainley obviously CAN do more with the role, as he's a lot less cartoonish in Logopolis, Castrovalva and Survival, but I like the scenery chewing.
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Jun 26, 2017 09:36
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docbeard posted:So, inspired by the last episode, I decided to go back and watch The Tenth Planet. I'm two episodes in, and it always takes me by surprise just how much fun the Hartnell era was even when he's clearly barely healthy enough to play the role any more. For 7 I'd go with The Harvest. It's probably one of my favourite 7 stories overall. Silver Nemesis could be pretty much any Who villain in it, they don't really do anything particularly Cybermanny, so I wouldn't bother.
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Jun 27, 2017 08:34
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Jerusalem posted:Invasion for Troughton for sure. Man, stuff like that is such a pain to recommend. It's like when people want a good Master story and you want to recomend UNIT: Dominion but you can't without giving it away.
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Jun 27, 2017 09:46
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Attack of the Cybermen is one of the better (televised) Six stories, which really isn't saying much. The fact you're right is very depressing.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:45
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How many TV Cybermen stories do they actually convert people in, incidentally? I've not see much pre Pertwee, but from some Wikipedia reading it looks like Tomb, Attack and the post revival ones are about it.
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Jun 27, 2017 20:12
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Senor Tron posted:I'm really curious about this and have no clue which direction they will take it. I don't think it's THAT dangerous. In RTD's final episode the Master nobly sacrificed himself to send Rassilon and the rest of the Time Lords back into the Time War, and by the end of Moffat's tenure Missy's back, so's the John Simm Master and so's Gallifrey. Chibnall will just do what everyone working on Who does, take the bits of the show's history he likes and sideline or ignore the bits he doesn't.
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Jun 28, 2017 08:52
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Mind Loving Owl posted:It's always possible that she could full on die, but it turns out there's like nine Masters between her and Simm. I'm idly wondering if she's actually a pre-Master regeneration and that's why she doesn't remember the current events, but that seems unlikely.
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Jun 28, 2017 09:57
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Jerusalem posted:Master: Is she.... is she The Rani? I think the Rani's hit rate is similar to the Master's, to be fair. She managed to take over that planet from Time and the Rani and enslave the occupants, and she successfully removed the need to sleep from an entire planet in Mark of the Rani, which is what she was trying to do. She probably would have been successful in getting all the brain juice she needed if it weren't for the Master showing up and buggering it up. Mind Loving Owl posted:He also mentioned that it took him a while to figure out who Missy was, though. He figures out she's him, he happens to remember that he was never a woman, or that particular woman if you prefer, therefore, future incarnation. Yeah, I realised as I hit post that it wasn't really that likely. Moffat might still pull some timey-wimey, Blinovitch effect nonsense but probably not. Fil5000 fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 10:32
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I thought Delgado and Beevers were separate regenerations? Apparently there's at least two versions of how Delgado becomes meltyface, and in one he regenerates first and in the other he just gets melted.
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Jun 28, 2017 11:23
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Bicyclops posted:The original intention was definitely that he was the Delgado Master, trying desperately to cling to life because it was his last regeneration. Yeah, I always took it that way. I only know that the other thing happened at all from the Tardis Data Core entry on The Master (in which I learned that his timeline is the sort of mess that Wookiepiedia would tie itself in knots to resolve, but here is just presented as "It could be either, we dunno").
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Jun 28, 2017 15:29
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Oh good, Moffat's turned into Gregg Wallace.
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Jun 28, 2017 17:39
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah I assumed so. I think the reason people might feel it is a bit vague is because McQueen's Master seems to have been written pretty clearly as a new regeneration as opposed to one of the desperate stop-gap measure possession's he'd been working his way through, which means he got hold of a new Time Lord body somehow BEFORE the Time Lords gave him a full set of new regenerations starting with the Jacobi Master. Doesn't McQueen say at one point that the time Lords gave him a new set of regenerations in order to help in some forseen conflict?
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Jun 29, 2017 12:01
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Jerusalem posted:I really need to get around to listening to Dark Eyes... and Doom Coalition! Personally I feel Dark Eyes gets slightly worse with each iteration, but I ultimately enjoyed them all. Not got around to Doom Coalition yet. Vinylshadow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtvkC9My298 And also how one recovers from a four inch hole directly through the sternum without cyber bits. Fil5000 fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 16:21
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docbeard posted:Plus the REAL Thirteenth Doctor adventures starring Tamsin Grieg as the Doctor, Michelle Gomez as Missy, Stephen Mangan and Julian Rhind-Tutt as the Expendables, Mark Heap as the Meddling Monk, and... I'd be fine with that because it'd mean we'd get to see Mark Heap doing something other than his usual "I'm a bit weird" thing.
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Jun 30, 2017 11:12
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CityMidnightJunky posted:I read a quote once that said if a Doctor Who fan asked Christopher Eccleston to do a personal appearance, he would politely decline, David Tennant would enthusiastically accept, and Matt Smith would show up at your front door in full costume and a sonic screwdriver claiming your family has been taken over by Zygons. Capaldi shows up at your front door in full costume and a sonic screw driver as well, except no one asked him to, he just occasionally does that to random houses. And Tom Baker is behind you, emptying your drinks cabinet into his mouth.
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Jun 30, 2017 14:02
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Wheat Loaf posted:Colin Baker visited and he was great company, but you're not sure why all your DVDs have been mysteriously replaced by copies of "Vengeance On Varos: Special Edition" (some say it's a classic, though). Sylvester visited you in the past and now your living room is set up EXACTLY as it needs to be for when his past self arrives.
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Jun 30, 2017 15:28
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CityMidnightJunky posted:McGann would have come, but he had work commitments. The_Doctor posted:And forgot where you lived. I think the latter is the most likely. The McGann era is the closest to All My Circuits.
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Jun 30, 2017 15:44
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So if Missy can't regenerate, but we know she'll be back, I assume the next time we see her she'll be Peter Pratt or Geoffrey Beevers, right? That's a logical, sensible thing for me to assume.
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Jul 1, 2017 23:40
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Carbon dioxide posted:What surprised me is that in very recent interviews, such as in that latest fan show, Moffat admitted that last week saturday, they weren't even done filming yesterday's episode. I think they're making an effort to have the regeneration actually be a surprise, which in this day and age apparently means leaving it to the last minute (and probably filming four versions as well just to catch people out)
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Jul 2, 2017 11:45
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Doctor Who: Its the end...but the moment has bCONTINUED IN SIX POSTS TIME
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Jul 2, 2017 22:36
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Davros1 posted:I want Matt Berry. Just go full on Ainley. Berry would be superb as a Master who's plans are just total nonsense and have no chance of success and get nothing done. So yeah, Ainley.
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Jul 3, 2017 09:07
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CobiWann posted:So has Robert Holmes regenerated yet? Yes, but sadly as he's now between his twelfth and final incarnations he regenerated into Joseph Lidster.
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Jul 3, 2017 13:51
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cargohills posted:How strongly would people recommend The Last Adventure and UNIT: Dominion? They're both on sale at the moment, but I'm not sure if I should get them. I've not heard any of the Klein audios aside from Colditz, and I'm not at all familiar with any of the 6th Doctor companions in his box aside from Charley (with 8) and Mel. I really enjoyed Dominion. It's best if you've not had any part of it spoiled, but if you HAVE had it spoiled it's good anyway.
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Jul 3, 2017 14:37
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Wheat Loaf posted:Nekromanteia. It's close but I'd still put that behind those other two. Ugh.
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Jul 3, 2017 22:25
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I'm guessing they're really going to go to town on wrecking the Console Room set, given it's the last untouched thing between the Moffat years and a clean start under Chibnall. I'm pretty sure he's already got one. Or two.
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Jul 4, 2017 13:25
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echoplex posted:Everything goes into storage. Jenna got a few of my TARDIS signs when she left but generally speaking if you leave anything unattended for 30 seconds it gets transported into the Experience and you have to fill out Brazil-level paperwork to get it back. Oh, I was meaning ones from old Who. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Capaldi has the old auxiliary control room instead of a living room, and that McCoy's tardis set is his kitchen.
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